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05 Nov 2009

Black and Blue Report: November 5, 2009

by Will Carroll

Jake Delhomme

Quarterbacks get hit. Try as they might at the NFL to keep them healthy, it's that simple fact that keeps quarterbacks in this column. Not just hits, but big nasty car-crash level hits. Jake Delhomme took one to the sternum, a shot that was so hard, for a few moments he couldn't figure out exactly what hurt. The hit was so hard that the Panthers medical staff sent Delhomme to the hospital for a CT scan to make sure that his heart wasn't injured and to see if his sternum and chest/rib complex was still protecting his heart and lungs. The sternum is a strong bone for good reason, one that's seldom injured in anything short of a devastating trauma (or CPR, an odd quirk). So after that, how much time does Delhomme miss? A couple days. He'll have the area padded, but he's going to get hit come Sunday and with each one, we'll have to just hope the doctors were right.

Aaron Rodgers

If a Packer gets turf toe, is it tundra toe? I shouldn't be encouraging Chris Berman (hi Chris!) but Aaron Rodgers is pretty banged up after a tough, physical game against the Vikings last week. On one side, he has a mild sprain of his foot and on the other a "mild to moderate" toe sprain that has been described as "like turf toe." Oddly, almost no stories said which was which. The sprained foot is his right (back) foot and the toe is on the left. Rodgers is a mobile guy, so this will affect him there, but he's played with the foot sprain and it hasn't appeared to affect his throwing. The Packers will work to minimize the problem, allowing him to heal up, with the expectation that he'll play this week. Some suggest he could be pulled if the Packers can get a lead on the Bucs.

Brian Westbrook

I'll skip today's lecture about football and head injuries, since everyone else is giving the same talk. That's good in the long run, but for individual players and teams, there's not much there for them. Brian Westbrook is expected back for the Eagles this week after missing last week's game. He's passed all the tests and the team seems comfortable with his return. The interesting thing inside this is that the team thinks the time off helped with his leg injuries. If you'll think back a couple years, a week off did seem to really help Westbrook, so maybe a re-charge is in order here. Andy Reid seemed to indicate that Westbrook would be practicing more, which would be a big shift in how they manage him.

Calvin Johnson

If nothing else went right last year, the Lions kick-started their revival first by firing Matt Millen, then by trading away Roy Williams. While Williams struggles to find the right page in Dallas, the Lions have some picks and a guy that is a clear No. 1 wide receiver. Calvin Johnson has missed time with a sprained knee, but he's back with the first-team offense and could help a struggling Matthew Stafford, who's coming back from his own knee problem. Both players will be watched very closely and handled conservatively; the Lions aren't a contender, but if the team is going to be in the future, they can't risk either man. One thing to note is that knee injuries for wide receivers tend to linger a bit and limit them in ways that may or may not be able to be adjusted for. With his size, Johnson should be, at worst, a red zone target.

Anquan Boldin

Hmm. Anquan Boldin doesn't read this column, I'll guess, since he tried to play through his ankle sprain and it didn't work out. That shouldn't have been a surprise. More surprising is that the team let him do it. A couple weeks of trying and failing leads us to Week 9, where the Cards seem inclined to hold Boldin out a week, missing the Bears and letting them gameplan around him. Given that he's played, he can't be too far off and a week should make a significant difference for him. The Cards have been up and down, but still lead the NFC West, so having a healthy Boldin for the second half of the schedule could be a difference-maker.

Owen Daniels

I struggle sometimes whether to put a season-ending injury like the torn ACL suffered by Owen Daniels up here or just to note it in passing down in the Bumps. Look, Daniels is done for the season and will have some questions heading into 2010, when he will be coming off surgery. There's no question about that. About the only interesting thing here is that Daniels did this before -- in high school -- and came back fine. The Texans will miss him, especially in the red zone, as they reconfigure their offense ahead of a trip to see the Colts. Joel Dreessen will be the "starter," but he's much more of a blocker, meaning that James Casey would be the better fantasy pick up ... except Casey had his knee scoped on Monday and is going to miss a couple weeks.

Ryan Clark and Santonio Holmes

Last time Ryan Clark played in Denver, he left his spleen and gall bladder behind. This wasn't a big hit, this came from inside him. Like many African-American males, Clark has sickle cell trait, a genetic disorder that can lead to sickle cell disease. In certain conditions, like being at altitude and during exercise, the trait can "exhibit," causing pain, shortness of breath, and splenic distress. Simple answer? Don't play in Denver. However, Clark has been cleared to play, with Mike Tomlin cryptically saying that there was more to the Clark situation than just the sickle cell issue. In fact, Santonio Holmes also has the trait, but says he's never had symptoms worse than shortness of breath at altitude. It's a scary story, but one that the Steelers seem to have a good, informed handle on. They are taking this opportunity to talk about the condition, which is at least some good coming out of something bad.

Joe Staley

So much for the iron man streak. Joe Staley has started every game of his career, until now. He started Sunday against the Colts, but was rolled up on the first play of the game and, despite a knee brace, he came out with a sprained knee. The Niners aren't saying what's sprained, but the mechanism and the six-week timeframe suggests the MCL is the issue. Staley could come back for the end of the season, but the Niners' record is going to have a lot to say about that. Assuming he could come back in Week 16 or 17, the team might elect to just shut him down if the playoffs are out of reach. If they are still in the race, the opposite could be true and Staley could be pushed for a return a bit earlier. Barry Sims did a nice job of containing Dwight Freeney, so Alex Smith shouldn't be too affected by the loss.

Ryan Harris

The right tackle is somewhat ignored in the NFL. No one's making movies about them. Still, they're important and the Broncos will see just how much they miss Ryan Harris against the blitzes of Dick LeBeau. Harris has a "serious" injury to his fourth and fifth toes on his right foot. This is the "out" foot and key to both pass blocking and some of the quick moves in a zone blocking scheme. Denver's line has been very good, especially to the right, so Knowshon Moreno might be the loser in all of this. I'm sure Kyle Orton will be fine.

Bumps and Bruises:

Nice article from Alex Marvez. I agree with his premise and have often thought about a value adjustment for AGL ... While others told you, right up to game time, that Andre Johnson wouldn't play, you knew he would. I'm assuming you read this column last week. What we said then about padding held true and will again this week for the Texans' top offensive threat ... Brett Favre's groin strain? Not serious, but dramatic ... Trent Edwards is expected back at quarterback after missing time with a concussion ... Darren McFadden is back running, but unlikely to be back in the lineup this week. He's still recovering from having his knee scoped ... Both Brad Hoover and Tony Fiammeta are injured, leaving the Panthers without a healthy fullback for their matchup with the Saints. If Hoover isn't available, there's been some discussion that Jonathan Stewart could lead block for DeAngelo Williams ... Anthony Gonzalez is not expected back this week for the Colts. His PCL is slow-healing and the Colts seem to be in no rush with him, oddly ... James Hardy is expected to be activated. He's coming off ACL surgery, so don't expect him to be 100 percent this season ... Nate Clements lost his starting job, then broke his scapula. Bad week. He's done for the regular season ... The Colts have a lot of defensive injuries, but the one to Kelvin Hayden may be the biggest (assuming Bob Sanders is healthy). His knee and head look to keep him out this week, which would leave a couple rookie corners to face Matt Schaub ... Ankle sprains are tougher on big guys, for obvious reasons. Haloti Ngata is a really big guy ... Tim Dobbins had an interesting feat on Sunday. I can't remember a player getting carted off with a knee injury, then returning to the game later. His sprain was very mild and he's expected to be available in Week 9.

Posted by: Will Carroll on 05 Nov 2009

27 comments, Last at 10 Nov 2009, 10:37am by DeltaWhiskey

Comments

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by Key19 :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 12:17pm

Good thing I've kept Anthony Gonzalez on my roster all season.

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by Bobman :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 2:00pm

Might pay off for the FF playoffs, or might be too late if he only emerges for the actual playoffs.

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by socctty :: Fri, 11/06/2009 - 12:48am

I'm in same position. But I'm 3-5 and might not even make the fantasy playoffs...

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by Shane S. (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 1:16pm

Ok, I'll say it...Vikings QB has a groin strain after all the media attention from last week? These jokes just write themselves, sometimes...

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 1:28pm

Someone had to say it, right?

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by young curmudgeon (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 1:57pm

"Like many African-American males, Clark has sickle cell trait"--I don't think sickle cell is autosomal rather than sex-linked (found only on the X chromosome), so the trait would be just as prevalent among females as males. Absurdly nit-picking here, I admit, since NFL players are invariably males, but your phrasing could confuse those who only vaguely recall high school biology and who turn to Football Outsiders for the latest information on genetic disorders.

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by young curmudgeon (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 1:59pm

Urgh, didn't fully edit: I meant that sickle cell IS autosomal, rather than sex-linked. Those who turn to my posts for the latest information on how to write coherently are sometimes disappointed!

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by wr (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 2:33pm

Will, that comment about sickle cell being a "genetic disorder" is not right, unless it progresses to sickle cell anemia. Sickle cells give one a significant boost in resistance to malaria, which is a decided genetic advantage in places like Africa where malaria is endemic.

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by ammek :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 2:34pm

I'm sure Kyle Orton will be fine.

I don't know. In the picture, he seems to be feeling some pressure to his right.

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by Bronco Nut (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 3:21pm

"The right tackle is somewhat ignored in the NFL. No one's making movies about them."

Except for Michael Oher.

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by TruFalcons (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 4:17pm

Nice catch. There's a movie out this month.

So what's the deal with Kevin Smith anyway? At least Calvin was at practice yesterday.

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by Harris :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 4:25pm

He was an LT in college.

Hail Hydra!

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by JB (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 8:38pm

Seriously. Is anyone making movies about NFL tackles that AREN'T right tackles?

But I guess you could claim that it is not about the position Oher plays, but about his life story. In that sense, nobody is really making movies about many NFL players at all.

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by Will Carroll :: Fri, 11/06/2009 - 10:34am

Oher's a LT. Yes, he started at RT, but it's clear he's a LT. The point stands.

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by DeltaWhiskey :: Tue, 11/10/2009 - 10:37am

Wow...that's telling.

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by BenOak (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 3:40pm

As a Raiders fan, I think that you are vastly overestimating the value of Barry Simms. He is a turnstile and a false start machine.

If they contained Dwight Freeney, Simms must have had help, he particularly struggles against speed rushers. I'm guessing that they kept extra blockers in to help him.

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by tuluse :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 3:53pm

Barry Simms dominated Freeney on a couple plays where I payed close enough attention to tell. It was weird.

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by BenOak (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 4:30pm

Man it's like 2002 again and Simms is a competent starting left tackle. Maybe Freeny is hurt or something.

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by Jimmy :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 8:10pm

It could be that Freeney had faked upfield and then countered with a spin move only to find that Sims hadn't reacted to Freeney's first move.

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by PDR Vet (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 4:45pm

I think you're prediction that McFadden won't start has a very good chance of becoming true since the Raiders have a BYE this week...

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by Sifter :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 5:23pm

"Tim Dobbins had an interesting feat on Sunday. I can't remember a player getting carted off with a knee injury, then returning to the game later"

If only soccer/football were similar. Guys who are 'injured' in soccer are sometimes jumping off the stretchers before they reach the sideline. And it's a surprise if the player stretchered off actually stays off with a real injury. What a joke that's become, but as long as the opposition gets a card or penalised, the 'injured' man has done his acting job well.

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by TruFalcons (not verified) :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 7:17pm

Soccer has a law that any player receiving treatment on the field must be stretchered off.

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by Ivarsson.se :: Fri, 11/06/2009 - 6:58am

Not quite, any player receiving treatment must go to the sidelines, to be waved on by the ref after play has commenced. The stretcher part is voluntary, at least here in Sweden.

Law added a couple of years ago to stop the faking of injuries (to waste time) by introducing a slight penalty for doing so. You almost never see it in top-level soccer, but at the lower levels where I reside it's a nice tool to "forget" waving on a suspeced simulant for a minute or two after he's declared he's ready to return.

Edit: clarified myself

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by PatsFan :: Thu, 11/05/2009 - 11:15pm

Boston Herald claims "to have learned" that Sammy Morris is "likely" to be back for the NE-NYJ game in two weeks.

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by Briguy :: Fri, 11/06/2009 - 11:19am

I just groaned out loud when I read this from Paul Kuharsky: "safety Bob Sanders consulted with Dr. James Andrews on an elbow injury he suffered in last week's game against San Francisco."

Any more info on this?

Also, it looks like Anthony Gonzalez is having his knee "cleaned out" and will miss and extra 2-3 weeks.

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by Will Carroll :: Fri, 11/06/2009 - 11:29pm

Lot more. Working on this.

Sanders: done, maybe for career.
Jackson: done for season
Hayden: done for a month
Hagler: done for season
Gonzalez: knee surgery NEXT week, out until at least week 13.

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by zlionsfan :: Sat, 11/07/2009 - 3:58am

Apparently Clark is going to sit for the Denver game? I see occasional references to it but nothing concrete.