That did make me laugh...as did his comments about his time in junior college:
"I realized it could be a blessing in disguise if I treat it like a professional"
Does anyone admit that you have to play QB or RB to win? Or are they still pretending that any position can qualify? I used to play pretend too, until I started the 2nd grade.
It will never happen with college football, but with the NFL and Football Outsiders' work on it, we can see how rule changes over time have shifted the relative values of players around. I don't know how far back Football Outsiders intends to go, and they do have the limitation of film being found and fewer camera angles, but perhaps we'll be able to draw some conclusions about the college game based on what FO finds out about the NFL game.
But yeah, I don't see anyone winning the NFL MVP award from a position other than QB or RB any time soon, either. Hell, NFL.com rated Jerry Rice the #1 player of all time, and he has ZERO MVPs.
I'll venture to guess that it's easiest to grade these types of players on "the eye test". I'll also guess that I'm not the first to suggest that.
by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 12/13/2010 - 6:10pm
I'm all for benefit of the doubt and I wouldn't have barred Newton from winning because of the scandal with his father. But it does kind of amaze me how that apparently had next to no effect on the voting. Maybe they get away with their little "investigation" and nothing new ever comes to light. Or maybe Cam Newton becomes the next Reggie Bush. You'd think there'd have been a bit more caution after the Bush debacle. It's almost like the Heisman voters missed that whole thing or don't think that tarnished their award.
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Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
After thanking God, Newton paid tribute to his parents, saying they "do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed."
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Not that unnoticed apparently.
Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
That did make me laugh...as did his comments about his time in junior college:
"I realized it could be a blessing in disguise if I treat it like a professional"
Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
Does anyone admit that you have to play QB or RB to win? Or are they still pretending that any position can qualify? I used to play pretend too, until I started the 2nd grade.
Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
It will never happen with college football, but with the NFL and Football Outsiders' work on it, we can see how rule changes over time have shifted the relative values of players around. I don't know how far back Football Outsiders intends to go, and they do have the limitation of film being found and fewer camera angles, but perhaps we'll be able to draw some conclusions about the college game based on what FO finds out about the NFL game.
But yeah, I don't see anyone winning the NFL MVP award from a position other than QB or RB any time soon, either. Hell, NFL.com rated Jerry Rice the #1 player of all time, and he has ZERO MVPs.
I'll venture to guess that it's easiest to grade these types of players on "the eye test". I'll also guess that I'm not the first to suggest that.
Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
Really, if you use MVP literally, which player provides the most value to his team, it should be QB just about every time.
Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
Congrats to Cam Newton. I look forward to the relinquishment ceremony a few years from now.
Re: Cam Newton Wins Heisman Trophy
I'm all for benefit of the doubt and I wouldn't have barred Newton from winning because of the scandal with his father. But it does kind of amaze me how that apparently had next to no effect on the voting. Maybe they get away with their little "investigation" and nothing new ever comes to light. Or maybe Cam Newton becomes the next Reggie Bush. You'd think there'd have been a bit more caution after the Bush debacle. It's almost like the Heisman voters missed that whole thing or don't think that tarnished their award.
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