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18 May 2012

SEC and Big 12 Create New Bowl

Starting in 2014, the Big 12 and SEC will pit their champions (barring a title game/playoff bid) against each other in a New Year's Day bowl game that hasn't yet acquired a sponsor. Tradition! Pageantry! So on!

Posted by: Rivers McCown on 18 May 2012

13 comments, Last at 01 Jun 2012, 11:48am by Lance

Comments

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by DavidL :: Fri, 05/18/2012 - 6:13pm

If I ran the world, this would be the Bender Bowl, and the winner would receive a crystal football and deck of cards, presented by a scantily-clad woman.

It's probably a good thing I don't run the world.

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by justanothersteve :: Fri, 05/18/2012 - 8:16pm

Wasn't that the XFL?

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by brownsrage (not verified) :: Fri, 05/18/2012 - 11:44pm

um, what about the cotton bowl? or the sugar bowl? how's this gonna work with a plus one? what happens to the fiesta bowl? this is going to cost many people and companies a lot of money. It's like a truck full of pallets full of cans full of worms.

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by Lance :: Sat, 05/19/2012 - 2:16pm

I am guessing (having only read one short article on the subject) that the Cotton Bowl and Sugar Bowl will want to exist. However, either VENUE would no doubt be thrilled to host such an event. I'm wondering if Jerry World wouldn't be the winning bidder for such an event, though. Perhaps the people in Houston will want to make a play. A&M is now SEC territory, but you probably have lots of Big 12 people there, too. Who knows?

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by DoubleB4 (not verified) :: Sat, 05/19/2012 - 8:07pm

This is a big deal to everyone, EXCEPT the SEC and Big XII.

If you assume that it isn't part of the future playoff structure, then what do you have--a potential bowl game that will rarely, if ever, feature both the SEC and Big XII champion. In the 14 years of the BCS this game NEVER would have featured both champions.

However, it does give the SEC and Big XII champions a home bowl. So if you're the Orange Bowl, for instance, do you really want to re-up with the ACC champion after 2013? Maybe if you can guarantee an SEC team in that game, but probably not. So what do you if you're the ACC? Do you go back to sending your champ to the Citrus Bowl? Maybe if you're UNC or Duke and you're looking forward to hoops season. But most definitely not if you're Florida State, Clemson, or Virginia Tech. In other words the ACC would have the all-or-nothing treatment of the current non-BCS schools: either you finish in the top 4 and go to the playoffs OR you drop all the way to a non-top tier bowl game.

I think the Big East is beyond saving as a major football conference. The ACC either needs to fix this quickly or risk becoming the Big East--Part 2.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Sat, 05/19/2012 - 9:59pm

The Orange Bowl will leave whatever conference Miami is in right about the time the Rose Bowl leaves USC behind.

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by TomKelso :: Mon, 05/21/2012 - 8:09am

But the U is not that big a draw in Miami -- Florida and FSU have drawn much better than the 'Canes when they've played in the Orange Bowl. The Orange Bowl will follow local teams -- but that would be the Gators or Seminoles; Miami is a weak third in that race.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 05/21/2012 - 5:13pm

It's Miami's home stadium. I suspect that plays a role in their conference negotiations.

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by FrontRunningPhinsFan :: Tue, 05/22/2012 - 10:19am

Nearly everyone I've ever met from South FL is a Da U fan by default. So much so that a lot of them cheer for Da U more than their alma maters.

Also nearly everyone I've ever met from South FL very much dislikes both the Gators and Seminoles.

As far as bowl attendance I can see it being because fans of both the Gators and Seminoles are willing to travel to Miami, but Da U is definitely a huge draw in Miami.

Fire Jeff Ireland.

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by TomKelso :: Tue, 05/22/2012 - 11:31pm

Not gonna argue with the facts on the ground -- especially about firing Ireland -- but why does the U draw so poorly, then? The attendance figures at the Orange Bowl and Who Did We Sell the Rights to This Week? Stadium have been awful, and were only slightly better when Miami WAS Miami. The U might be happy with all the jerseys on the street, but bowls mostly care about who puts butts in the seats and viewers on the TV's -- and even in Miami, that's not the Canes.

Which is a real mystery, but there it is.

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by Lance :: Fri, 06/01/2012 - 11:48am

I'm not from there, so this is just a guess. But it seems clear that in south Florida-- a major metropolitan area with lots of cool things to do-- while people may root for the U, they may not always prioritize going to a football game. Conversely, further north in smaller college towns, going to the Home Team's games is probably the thing to do.

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by zenbitz :: Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:01pm

It's over for the ACC/Big East.
There are now 4 ~12 team conferences locked into what is essentially 2 big bowls and a +1. They can even have 4 games of conference championship.

The 16-18 (can't remember how many teams each of the big 4 have exacty ATM) best teams of the ACC/Big East/Indies + maybe Boise st. and TC will be rolled into the other 4 conferences within 5 years.

I was wondering how they were going to resolve "the other 3 BCS bowls" since the Rose Bowl seems locked in as PAC-12/B1G champ. And this makes the most sense, since the conferences can divvy up the playoff money without Bowl interference. I could see the Sugar/Cotton/Fiesta morphing into the conference championships for SEC/B12/Pac12. Not sure what the logical "neo Bowl" for the B1G CC is. Capital One Bowl? Also perhaps sub Fiesta Bowl for B12 CC and Alamo Bowl for P12 (based on they take the #2 P12 now)

Now will see if they boot the NCAA as well.

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by RickD :: Thu, 05/31/2012 - 1:44am

"Now will see if they boot the NCAA as well."

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys.