Where do the ADP numbers come from, and are they updated each time KUBIAK is updated?
Posted by: MatMan on 09 Aug 2012
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17 Aug 2012, 3:25pm by
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Re: ADP source?
by Zac :: Thu, 08/09/2012 - 10:15pm
Not every time. The ADP numbers from the August 8th spreadsheet were last updated July 24th (as noted on the ADP tab). I don't recall hearing what the source is.
I'm not sure where they come from either. My league's draft is next week, and my league-mates draft with ESPN, but tend to be a little more ahead-of-the-curve shall we say, and I think the fantasy prospects end up coming off the board at a rate that more closely resembles Yahoo leagues than ESPN (in my experience, Yahoo ADP's, whether because of the influence of better analyst rankings or better players, tend to reflect a more sophisticated, efficient market).
I think there are two primary sources of noise in the ADP delta between different sites: the local "expert" default rankings that influence or "anchor" the folks behind the computer, and the fact that many players abandon mock drafts early, leaving the auto-pilot to default draft along those automatic rankings.
Anyway, I'd recommend setting your ADP #'s as close to the specific trends of your league as possible.
Here is quite a good database for customisable ADP data. http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp_ppr.php?teams=10
It updates constantly to better reflect the market trends. The only negative is that the data is unavailable in spreadsheet format.
Thanks for the link. Ideally, I'd like to find one that is a) current, and b) in spreadsheet form. I prefer to work two separate lists on draft day...an all-positions ADP, and my own position-by-position sheets. If anybody out there knows of such an ADP spreadsheet, please drop us a dime on this here forum.
Take a look at that link...you can get pretty close on a size & scoring basis with the choices available. Not quite custom, but close enough for government work & to top it off, you can export the data into XML or CSV format...both of which you can import into a spreadsheet.
Typically use FFC for my ADP projections, but intrigued to evaluate Yahoo further based on feedback above.
We found a reader who could parse the Yahoo ADP into a spreadsheet file, so I've replaced KFFL now with Yahoo in the lastest KUBIAK. We're trying to update ADP once per week from hereon out. The other two ADP lists will be updated in the next couple days.
We still can't quite figure out a good way to incorporate an ADP listing with IDP so that those listings show up for leagues set for IDP but not for other leagues.
Do you know how often this is updated? And to everyone who contributed to this post THANKS. Great info on here, but the fans of FBOutsiders are the best in the biz so im not shocked...
I can parse the Yahoo ADP into a spreadsheet. Hell, I can even pull Fantasy Pros entire site into a spreadsheet. If you know a site that publishes ADP on IDPs, I can probably pull that information, too.
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Re: ADP source?
Not every time. The ADP numbers from the August 8th spreadsheet were last updated July 24th (as noted on the ADP tab). I don't recall hearing what the source is.
Re: ADP source?
I'm not sure where they come from either. My league's draft is next week, and my league-mates draft with ESPN, but tend to be a little more ahead-of-the-curve shall we say, and I think the fantasy prospects end up coming off the board at a rate that more closely resembles Yahoo leagues than ESPN (in my experience, Yahoo ADP's, whether because of the influence of better analyst rankings or better players, tend to reflect a more sophisticated, efficient market).
I think there are two primary sources of noise in the ADP delta between different sites: the local "expert" default rankings that influence or "anchor" the folks behind the computer, and the fact that many players abandon mock drafts early, leaving the auto-pilot to default draft along those automatic rankings.
Anyway, I'd recommend setting your ADP #'s as close to the specific trends of your league as possible.
Re: ADP source?
Here is quite a good database for customisable ADP data. http://fantasyfootballcalculator.com/adp_ppr.php?teams=10
It updates constantly to better reflect the market trends. The only negative is that the data is unavailable in spreadsheet format.
Re: ADP source?
Thanks for the link. Ideally, I'd like to find one that is a) current, and b) in spreadsheet form. I prefer to work two separate lists on draft day...an all-positions ADP, and my own position-by-position sheets. If anybody out there knows of such an ADP spreadsheet, please drop us a dime on this here forum.
Re: ADP source?
Take a look at that link...you can get pretty close on a size & scoring basis with the choices available. Not quite custom, but close enough for government work & to top it off, you can export the data into XML or CSV format...both of which you can import into a spreadsheet.
Typically use FFC for my ADP projections, but intrigued to evaluate Yahoo further based on feedback above.
Good luck!
Re: ADP source?
Ditto on the above, esp. if it contains auction values.
Re: ADP source?
We found a reader who could parse the Yahoo ADP into a spreadsheet file, so I've replaced KFFL now with Yahoo in the lastest KUBIAK. We're trying to update ADP once per week from hereon out. The other two ADP lists will be updated in the next couple days.
We still can't quite figure out a good way to incorporate an ADP listing with IDP so that those listings show up for leagues set for IDP but not for other leagues.
Re: ADP source?
Thanks a lot Aaron! Appreciate that.
And in response to the folks above, here's the best resource to get your consolidated ADP's (from several different sites, sortable & exportable):
http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/adp/overall.php#
Re: ADP source?
Do you know how often this is updated? And to everyone who contributed to this post THANKS. Great info on here, but the fans of FBOutsiders are the best in the biz so im not shocked...
Re: ADP source?
If you do a ctrl-F to find where it says "Pick your Sources and see Publish Dates", click on that link and the information will appear.
Re: ADP source?
I can parse the Yahoo ADP into a spreadsheet. Hell, I can even pull Fantasy Pros entire site into a spreadsheet. If you know a site that publishes ADP on IDPs, I can probably pull that information, too.
Let me know!
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