Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

19 Aug 2011

Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread

Obviously, things were a little more rushed than usual this year... please don't include when information in the book has been rendered incorrect by recent roster changes. (For example, I know the Cincinnati chapter doesn't say they waived Tank Johnson, because the chapter was already done when the Bengals made that move.)

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 19 Aug 2011

64 replies , Last at 17 Sep 2011, 9:21am by Drunkmonkey

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by JasonK :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:48am

The first paragraph on p. 169 can't seem to decide how to spell Keith Bulluck's name. Uses "Bulluck" twice (correct) and "Bullock" twice (incorrect).

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Shattenjager :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:28am

p. 138
First, being overly nitpicky: Christopher Guest did not direct This Is Spinal Tap (Rob Reiner, USA 1984); Rob Reiner did.

Second, less nitpicky: In the second paragraph, Michael McKean's name is misspelled as Michael McKeon.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by jbenton :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:49am

Page 160: The New Orleans suburb is Metairie, not Metarie. Great read so far!

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Jimmy :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:45pm

Not sure if this mistake is just in the Vikings chapter available as a preview but on the second page it should be Nawrocki not Gawrwocki. (although it is Tanier and that could be a pop culture reference I am missing)

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Travis :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:33pm

All nitpicky:

p. xxi: "Loserville" should be from 4 to 6 wins, not 5 to 6.

p. 11: The Falcons-Ravens game was on Thursday night, not Monday night.

p. 19: I don't believe the NFL considers tackles to be an official stat, even though tackles are listed on NFL.com.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by widderslainte :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:34pm

Jamal Anderson and "James Anderson" are both listed on the ATL defensive line.

At least James wasn't a first round pick ;)

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Peregrine :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 11:41am

It's Jamaal Anderson who is the complete waste of time who the Falcons cut and Indy signed. Jamal Anderson was the stud running back of the 1998 team.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Matt Bowyer :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:43pm

Atlanta - text says Brent Grimes had zero picks, table says he had five.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by ammek :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:00pm

There's a word missing in the Peyton Manning entry, p282:

… and he had the (—) yards per attempt figure since his rookie year

The table in the left-hand column on p339 has at #3 "Greg Jenkins, GB". Should be Jennings.

The entry for Eric Decker on p351 says "Throughout his Wisconsin career…". Decker played college football at Minnesota.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Shattenjager :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:11pm

p 77
"A full tear might have kept Clary out . . . "
Should be Clady.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Sergio :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:11pm

The statistical appendix has a couple:

- The 'Bottom 10 punters, Gross Punt Value over Average' is instead titled the same as the Bottom kickers GKVoA. Also it might be just my imagination, but I think both punters tables are sorted wrong (Scifres leads in the worst but actually has the 3rd best gross average).

- The 'Top 20 defenders with broken tackles' is both titled wrong (should be 'Bottom 20 defenders' since they're the worst) and it's repeated, on both page 517 and 519.

/Yes, I geeked out and checked the statistical appendix first.

-- Go Phins!

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Shattenjager :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 1:20pm

p 80
"Now he’s taking over another team in serious of redemption . . ."
Missing a word after "serious" (probably "need").

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Travis :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 2:44pm

p. 55: Spider-Man: Turn off the Dark had 183 preview performances, not 182. (Wikipedia might be the source of this error, as it's wrong there as well.)

p. 65: It makes more sense that Mike Jenkins would be consulting on Madden NFL 12 during the lockout, not the already released Madden NFL 11.

p. 107: "In some ways, arguing for the Colts to adopt a new approach after one mediocre season (where they won 10 games and come within one play of winning a playoff game) is contrary to the Football Outsiders approach." "Come" should be "came".

p. 147: Devin McCourty had 7 interceptions last year. Ed Reed led the NFL with 8.

p. 164: The 2009 Giants-Saints game was in New Orleans.

p. 173: The Jets' defensive coordinator is Mike Pettine, not Rich Pettite.

p. 254: The Redskins were 4-3 before the game against the Lions, not 5-3.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Pat Patriot :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 3:34pm

p.148: "the trade up to get Vince Wilfork being a notable exception"

The Patriots did not trade up to get Wilfork. The pick was acquired from Baltimore during the previous year's draft.

p 152: "Andre Carter still has some quickness of the edge"

Should say "off" instead of "of"

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GB's 2011 mean win projection
by CheeseHead :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 2:03pm

I know I'm a Packer homer, but the 2011 mean win projection is exactly the same as last years, which is lower than last years 10-6 record. Could this be a typo??? The Pythagorean Wins is 3 games higher than the win projection. They're getting back 11 starter quality guys off of IR, and they have an easier schedule this year!!!

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Re: GB's 2011 mean win projection
by Sergio :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 7:22pm

I think 9.4 is a pretty good projection, only the Steelers, Patriots, Chargers have better ones IIRC. It firmly locates them as division champions if I'm not mistaken.

But I do agree with Aaron it's probably not the place to discuss it. Perhaps creating a new thread in the FOA forum?

-- Go Phins!

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Re: GB's 2011 mean win projection
by CheeseHead :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 2:31pm

I really thought it might be a typo, 'cuz 9.4 is exactly the same as last year. 9.4 puts 'em as 7-8th best in the league. The whole first section in the Packer chapter is a tribute to Ted Thompson. Suggestion: please add a paragraph about their overall prospects for 2011.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by furiousbabar :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 2:39pm

Seattle Seahawks p.233
Rushing Statistics
It has all rushers except Marshawn Lynch, the starter, listed. Might want to include him, unless he got cut and I missed it.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Aaron Schatz :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 2:40pm

Thanks everyone for your input. We're working on a second edition that will fix all these issues before we go into the publication process for the hard copy.

BTW, this is not the proper place to complain about projections you do not like.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Dales :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 3:02pm

p 169: missing word on Amukamara: "he suffered a break to the fifth metatarsal in his left foot during his second practice and will the first month or two of the regular season."

Should be "and will miss the first month..."

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Dan :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 3:29pm

p. 492 The graph in Figure 4 (adj sack rate and left tackles) is the same graph as the one in Figure 2 (adj sack rate and passing line yards)

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Soulless Mercha... :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 3:41pm

Mark Brunell's stat history is wrong. His 2008 stats are Aaron Rodgers's numbers. Brunell didn't throw a single pass in 2008, and he was on the Saints, not the Packers. A cut-and-paste error.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Dan :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 3:42pm

p. 42 "convert just three first downs" should be "convert just three third downs". I was confused about how the Bears had managed to gain 322 yards with only 3 first downs.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Phrim :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 4:15pm

On the cover page, the ISBN-10 has 13 digits and the ISBN-13 has 10 digits.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Sidewards :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 4:25pm

Page vi.
August 15, 2010 should probably be 2011. Unless you're more prescient than I've been led to believe.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Soulless Mercha... :: Fri, 08/19/2011 - 9:58pm

The Rex Grossman entry on page 277 says "Note the large gap between Grossman's VOA and DVOA." We can't, because the table above that sentence doesn't have VOA, only DVOA. You'll have to add in his VOA for comparison.

The Jimmy Clausen entry on page 271 has a typo. The quotation marks in the third line are wrong -- it reads: ...and the definition of "pro-style' changed" the Panthers...

The Kyle Boller entry on page 267 capitalizes "howitzer" for no discernible reason.

Why yes, I am a professional editor. Why do you ask? The skill set one builds on the job is very useful at annoying the bejeezus out of friends and family.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by JCutler6 :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 6:36am

In the Bears chapter it mentions Danieal Manning who is now in Jacksonville - he is actually now in Houston

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by olsonk55 :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 6:37am

p. 508 Ed Dickson. Description in prospects section states he's a former BYU TE, but that is actually Dennis Pitta. Dickson is an Oregon grad.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by clemenzaj :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 7:46am

Page 42 it says Cowboys Schedule when it should say Bears Schedule. The actual schedule is correct however.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 12:27pm

Packers chapter starts off a bit egregiously.

p 90: it was Nick Collins who had the superbowl pick 6. Jarret Bush had his interception on a separate play on a shorter pass closer to midfield. That paragraph really needs to be rewritten, as the facts don't fit the narrative it's trying to present.

Also, no info for Howard Green in the GB D-line stats box.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Vincent Verhei :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 2:17pm

"Also, no info for Howard Green in the GB D-line stats box."

Defensive linemen are listed in the team chapters if they made at least 15 plays during the 2010 season. Green had a total of 11 plays between the Packers and Jets.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 1:32pm

In the Bears chapter, LB section, the text reading

"like when Urlacher got juked by the barely-nifty
James Starks in the NFC Championship Game."

should be naming Brandon Jackson (assuming the play in questions was the short dump off pass where Jackson chipped a D-lineman, caught the pass and then juked Urlacher, and not some running play).

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Rocco :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 2:20pm

Pg. 224- Wrote John Harbaugh. Meant Jim.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by borregaard :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 2:35pm

Page 403 - In the text to Brandon Pettigrew, his name is incorrectly spelled twice as "Petitgrew."

Although, frankly, he should be convinced to change the spelling to that. It's more more poetic that way.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 2:45pm

Very minor issue: in the Steelers LB section it says LaMarr Woodley had his third straight season with double-digit sacks, but the stat box lists him with 9.5 sacks.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Sidewards :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 3:33pm

I think they round up for that (I approve, as a half sack still means he was on the quarterback as he fell to the ground).

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by CBPodge :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:22am

Technically that's 2 digits. But yes.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Vincent Verhei :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 2:32am

Just so there's no confusion, that was a mistake in the original file -- Woodley had 10.0 sacks last year, not 9.5.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by theshadowj :: Sat, 08/20/2011 - 5:54pm

Page 103- The Defensive Secondary chart lists James Allen as a cornerback, which is presumably supposed to be Jason Allen. The name is correct in the paragraph underneath.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Drunkmonkey :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:04pm

Page 15, Atlanta Chapter:
It calls Mike Peterson a 35 year old in one sentence, and the very next sentence claims he's a 34 year old getting long in the tooth. I'm thinking he can only be one age at a time.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by ktismael :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:09pm

Page 83: Lions RB "Travis" Best

Probably should be "Jahvid"

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Shattenjager :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:12pm

P 124:
" . . . the Chiefs appear to be have four of their five starters returning this year."

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 6:19pm

In Ryan Fitzpatrick's QB capsule it says "in his final five games of 2011", instead of "in his final five games of 2010".

In Matt Flynn's capsule the line "Flynn’s 24-of-37, 251-yard and three-touchdown performance in a loss to the Patriots showed that he has a future as an NFL backup; previous stints in 2009 and 2010 were less encouraging." seems confusing. I would think the intended line was "future as an NFL starter" or something to that effect.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by tuluse :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 6:27pm

I think they meant Matt Flynn belongs in the NFL, but as a backup. Not clearly doesn't belong in the NFL like Todd Collins.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 6:49pm

That doesn't really mesh with the rest of the description regarding trade rumors, so that GB could get value for Flynn instead of letting him walk as a free agent after the season. If there wasn't a strong possibility that some teams would look at Flynn as a potential starter then GB could just sign him to a typical backup QB extension.

Just looking at his DVOA, your theory makes sense. However the writeup seems quite confusing, as Flynn was already firmly established in GB as a backup before the Patriots game which significantly raised his national profile.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 6:43pm

In Hasselbeck's QB capsule it says "he complete 69 percent"
instead of "completed".

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Sun, 08/21/2011 - 11:47pm

In Zach Millers TE capsule there is the misspelling "Slants and flat patters" instead of "patterns".

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by olsonk55 :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 1:10am

Zach Miller's 2010 Statline is incorrect in Reception total and TD's.
Show's 20 rec. and 1 TD. Should be 60 and 5. Didn't check other #'s in his statline.

Oops, I should have read further, comment #50 addressed this.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by CBPodge :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 9:22am

The Bills chapter mentions Lee Evans on P27 as if he's still on the team, but he's also mentioned in the Baltimore chapter after the trade (come on, this trade went down at least 4 seconds before you published!).

You've already caught the other one I spotted in the Bills chapter, which mentioned someone replacing Pozlusny "if he leaves", which seems to have been amended.

Also, the Panthers chapter mentions Ron Edwards as being likely to play over one of their two young DTs early on (page 35). Edwards tore his tricep in an early practice and is (according to the internet) out for a minimum of two months, if he's not been put on IR.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by jrbdmb :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:31am

P. 198 2nd column, "Ward was one of a number of Steelers who made
headlines this offseason, not only for his appearance
on Dancing with the Stars but also for drinking his
way into a DUI ***address*** in July."

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Mon, 08/22/2011 - 11:31pm

I'm not 100% sure about this one, and it might be hard to verify in the play-by-play, but in this section of the Cowboys chapter talking about regression:

"in a position to win the game on the final play. Down
six points with 13 yards to go for a touchdown, Romo
hit Miles Austin for what looked to be a game-winning
score, only for the play to be taken off the board by a
game-ending holding penalty on backup tackle Alex
Barron."

I thought that the apparent TD catch was by Roy Williams. Maybe someone else can confirm?

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Sidewards :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 3:09am

It was indeed Williams.
Related: woo Game Rewind.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by jalsonmi :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 12:38am

The 2010 stats for OAK TE Zach Miller are wrong, seemingly mixing his stats with that of JAC TE Zach Miller, such that it says he had 20 receptions on 92 targets for 216 yards (among other inaccuracies in his line)

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Arkaein :: Tue, 08/23/2011 - 8:44pm

The first paragraph of Denver's Defensive Front Seven section has "MIke Nolan" (notice the double caps in "Mike") in it.

Also, in describing the age of Denver's secondary is the phrase "still fourth-lowest in that same time frame." In this case I believe "lowest" should be "oldest".

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Aaron Schatz :: Thu, 08/25/2011 - 11:48am

Just to let folks know, a new version is going up this morning that fixes these further typos and errors.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by ammek :: Thu, 08/25/2011 - 12:53pm

If it's not too late …
Twice in the Falcons chapter, on pp 15 & 16, the playoff game vs Green Bay is referred to as a wildcard. It was the divisional round.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by zlionsfan :: Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:53pm

Further into the "hopefully not too late" category:

p. 83, Detroit section: "Free agent Erik Coleman fills a major need at free safety,".

The major need is at strong safety, as mentioned correctly on p. 87.

Also, p. 271, a space is missing in a sentence about Jimmy Clausen: "If there was one game that typified the deer-in-the-headlights feel of his rookie season, it was the Week 14 contestagainst the Falcons."

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Shattenjager :: Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:10pm

As zlionsfan and ammek already said, if it isn't too late:

P 168: "The 6-foot-5, 328-pound Joseph rarely saw the field as a rookie, but has impressive strength, is more athletic than his size belies, . . . "
Perhaps "is more athletic than his size suggests" or "his size belies his athleticism."

P 181: " . . . he’s the king of unfinished, hyper- athletic reach . . ."
Presumably meant to be "kind" instead of king.
"So, the Raiders were finally on the way up, and thing were looking relatively bright . . ."
"Thing" should be "things."

P 184: " . . . new former Raiders legend Steve Wisniewski, now past of Oakland’s coaching staff,"
Should be "part" instead of "past." Probably should not have "new" (Unless of course he just became a "former Raiders legend.") along with "now part of Oakland's coaching staff."

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by ox10 (not verified) :: Sat, 08/27/2011 - 2:20pm

X – right col, para 1 - “has never” is duplicated
Xxvi – table – Turnovers 2010 missing + (I think) sign
P31 Kroy → Kory?
P45 reggie wells → beanie wells?
P47 A Wilson: Table says 5 PD, 0 INT and text says 6 PD, 2 INT?
P257 A Garay: 6 sacks in the table, 5.5 in the commentary below?
P117 an public endorsement → a public endorsement

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by CheeseHead :: Thu, 09/01/2011 - 12:10pm

It's curious that the ASR and ALY ranks for 2010 are identical for both SD and STL.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by zlionsfan :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 10:15pm

Pages 99 and 103, Texans: the CB they acquired is Johnathan Joseph. His first name is missing an h in the text in both places.

Page 110, Colts: Ryan Diem's first name is misspelled as Rian.

Page 135, Dolphins: Lydon Murtha's first name is misspelled as Lyndon.

Page 136, Dolphins, first full paragraph: "... Jeff Ireland's decision to uppluck two-time CFL ..."; that word should probably be pluck.

Page 178, Jets: Jeremy Kerley's first name is misspelled as Jeremmy.

Page 218, Chargers: Jonas Mouton went to Michigan, not Michigan State ... this is correct on page 214.

Page 227, 49ers, special teams: "Only Nate Kaeding in San Diego and Ryan Longwell in Minnesota were worst ..."; that should read "... were worse ...".

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Drunkmonkey :: Tue, 09/13/2011 - 12:38pm

So I don't know if this belongs in here, because I'm not sure if this is a typo or if I'm just stupid, but:

On page 308, for Justin Forsett's blurb, it is said that he ranked 12th in OFY. What is OFY?

I've looked over the site and through FOA, but can't find it. Maybe I'm not looking in the correct areas, or it is a typo. If anybody could help, that would be much appreciated.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Vincent Verhei :: Thu, 09/15/2011 - 1:11pm

Open-Field Yards. Check the "How to read the Offensive Line Tables" section in the Stat Toolbox. Actually, the Forsett blurb may be the only time we refer to it as "OFY." That's what happens when you rush things.

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Re: Inevitable Mistake and Typo Thread
by Drunkmonkey :: Sat, 09/17/2011 - 9:21am

OK, thanks. I searched the entire FOA, and OFY wasn't used anywhere else, that's probably why I couldn't figure it out.

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