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30 Jul 2013


I have run KUBIAK with and without the use of the Flex for our pretty standard PPR league. With the flex in use the WRs get a pretty considerable bump in FPOB and this makes sense. However, do you think it might be smart to draft off of the non flex rankings for the first 3 or 4 picks of the draft?

Posted by: njbuzz on 30 Jul 2013

7 replies , Last at 27 May 2015, 12:08am by Mason

Re: KUBIAK & Flex
by jaw4527 :: Tue, 07/30/2013 - 11:39am

I've been thinking the same thing. Most people will end up starting RB in the flex spot if they can (more consistent touches, etc). When I change the scoring settings from 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 wr/rb to 3 wr, 3 rb, the rankings seem to make more sense to me given scarcity at rb.

Anyone else do this?

Re: KUBIAK & Flex
by njbuzz :: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 11:29am

I've begun to just put 0 in flex. It doesn't make sense to lump all of the RB/WR in to the same baseline when you HAVE to have 2 RB. If you draft on value youd end up with 3 WR and 0 RB after the first few rounds. I think they should have a RB baseline, a WR baseline and a Flex baseline.

Re: KUBIAK & Flex
by alien1rock :: Wed, 08/14/2013 - 3:45pm

I changed from using 2RB 2WR 1Flex inputs to 2.5RB and 2.5WR, which allows the Top Bench RB Baseline adjustment to come into play. Makes the auction values look much more reasonable for the RBs.

Re: KUBIAK & Flex
by bradcottrill :: Mon, 08/19/2013 - 9:55am

Eureka! The 2.5 adjustment does the trick. I was getting $140 value for Calvin Johnson (out of $200!). This adjustment pushed him down to 3rd highest value at $90. AP pushed back to his rightful place at the top of the board in the low 100's.

Re: KUBIAK & Flex
by wickerman :: Mon, 08/19/2013 - 1:07pm

Did you take out a TRUNC() or ROUND() somewhere? When I used 1.5 and 2.5 for my 2 Flex league (1WR/RB and 1WR/TE) it ended up rounding up in the calculations to 2 and 3...

Re: KUBIAK & Flex
by alien1rock :: Mon, 08/19/2013 - 1:44pm

Looks like using 2.5 for RB and 2.5 for WR produces the same results as using 2 for RB and 2 for WR. Damn, nice catch. I still liked those numbers better than using the flex spot by itself, but I guess it would be undervaluing RB/WR a little compared to QB/TE.

The macros are protected (or I'm not smart enough to know how to edit them), so I guess if I wanted to fix it, it would mean updating the baseline values by hand and then sorting the sheet manually....

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