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04 Feb 2010

Super Bowl XLIV Open Discussion

Here's the place to talk about Super Bowl XLIV -- before, during, and after the game.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 04 Feb 2010

71 replies , Last at 10 Feb 2010, 1:11am by Tofino

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by Phil Osopher :: Fri, 02/05/2010 - 12:25pm

Not sure who to root for. Both teams are exciting, but Saints have never won one and would be great to see them win.

I know not the irrational brady vs manning thread, but I think Manning is way better, so would be nice for him to get more rings to have that argument stop, plus Colts are a fun team to watch.

I am very divided about how to root. Same with the Vikings v Saints game. It was so sloppy that during the game, I said whoever fumbles next should lose this game. Enter APE, fumbles ball, Saints win

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by GBNordic :: Sat, 02/06/2010 - 1:14am

I am HUGE Vikes fan. But how the defense of the Aints has been playing in the playoffs(dirty), got me disfguted.So I am cheering for the Colts this weekend.

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by Zheng :: Sat, 02/06/2010 - 4:14am

I'm pulling for the Saints. Peyton has a ring and a space reserved at the HOF. NO needs it more after Katrina anyway. Gotta pick the Colts to actually win it, though.

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by hippoes :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 5:40pm

Why is CBS showing a live Obama commercial? Am I missing something?

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by TimK :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:02pm

Interesting studio guest on the BBC, 49ers QB Alex Smith has come over to London. He seems to be handling live TV OK so far though. Assume he was picked at least partly due to playing in London next season.

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by Paul R :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:21pm

Colts 34, Saints 17.

Phil Simms -5.

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by zzyzx :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:22pm

New Orleans - Great music. Great food. A fascinating place where it seems like anything could happen. Ghosts and mystical happenings and a place that almost got destroyed a few years ago.

Indy - they have an auto race.

This Seahawks fan actually likes this Colts team quite a bit. Any other city and I'd be rooting for them, but Geaux Saints.!

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by coldbeer4thesoul (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:26pm

Saints score early and often 45-24

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by Gryfyn1 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:29pm

Whenever anyone asks me about this game, I always say I like the Colts, but I always point out the Aarons Shatz's 1st line to Bill Simmons was that the number actually favor the Saints -- just like he did before the Jets/Chargers game

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:31pm

Saints 31, Colts 30.

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by t.d. :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:38pm

I had Saints, 49-27 before the game, so I'll stick with that. I disagreed with Kurtz like 180 degrees about the AFC being superior (this year), but we'll see. Iy's very early, but the Colts look sharp.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:42pm

So much for that Super Bowl party. The little girl wakes up with a sore throat, I wake up with a sore throat. Hey, she's positive for strep throat. That means I . . . oh crap.

Nothing says "Super Bowl" excitement like being tired, cranky, and having a sore throat.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:42pm

If the Saints can just make the Colts take three on some of their drives, they should be in good shape.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:46pm

Oh god oh god oh god just saw the superbowl shuffle ad my eyes please kill me now

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:47pm

That was bad.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:51pm

Phil Simms: "He turned his head away from the football at the last second. . . . It hit him in the face."

I'm just amazed that a person can say those two things within two seconds of each other and not see that there's a contradiction there.

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by Gryfyn1 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:57pm

really?? you can't turn your head an get hit in the side of the face ?? Don't try so hard to nitpick and seems smarter than the annoucers ..

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 8:05pm

I should have learned by now not to come here. I'm off.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 7:54pm

And we have a contender, from commercial content alone, for worst movie of 2010 in "Robin Hood." Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse than Kevin Costner . . . it became RUSSELL CROWE!!!

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 8:00pm

Addai getting great second-level yards with the Saints LBs clearing out to help on the pass.

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by Jovins :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 8:01pm

That Peyton Manning guy's pretty good.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 8:46pm

Maybe the Saints can get a TD easier from midfield than from the one...

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by snik75 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 8:58pm

Like the call to go for it. Kick a FG from the 1, maybe Colts drive for an answer. Instead, you get your FG anyway.

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by Q (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:04pm

The Who sound terrible, maybe 1 day they will stop choosing ancient bands to perform

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by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:58pm

Not until the NFL forgets about Janice Jackson. They tried having "modern" (at least non-ancient) musicans one year, and the result was one exposed, scandalous nipple.

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by wr (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:39pm

Even though I am a Who fan, I did not watch the halftime show for the
same reason I strongly prefer closed casket funerals...

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by Rick A. (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:05pm

Who dat?

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by bobt (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:09pm

Peyton Manning played the best half of football a QB could possibly play and is only winning due to a failed 4th and 2. That's got to be a little bit nerve wracking. Although I guess the Saints should be even more nervous.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:23pm

Okay. Sean Payton's got guts. Nice onside to keep the football away from Manning.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:29pm

Saints up 13-10. Manning looks like someone shot Mongo.

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by Rick A. (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:40pm

Saints rushing defense is so terrible.

Then again, the Colts aren't doing much to stop the run either.

The MVP is going to be the running back of the team that wins the game. I can feel it.

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by zzyzx :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:43pm

If the Saints win this, this could be the first time a kicker gets MVP.

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by t.d. :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:46pm

the most remarkable thing so far has been sean payton's stones

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by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:51pm

I like how the sideline reporter told us that Freeney's back out there with his re-taped ankle while the camera shows him standing on the sidelines.

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by Paul R :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 9:58pm

Start of 4th quarter. Too busy watching to type complete sentences. Enjoying this game very much. Would probably enjoy it more if Colts were up by 44 points.

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Re: Super Bowl XLIV Open Discussion
by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:05pm

Heck of a play by Vilma

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by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:06pm

P.S. Why didn't Indy go for it? I mean, the guy is 42. The chances of him making that kick were not good at all.

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by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:08pm

Cause 4th and 11 is really hard to pick up.

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by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:11pm

But a 52 yard field goal by a 42 year-old kicker, cut by his previous team because of his loss of leg strength, is really really hard. I raise you a really.

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by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:15pm

Yea, they should have punted.

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by t.d. :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:07pm

terrible idea to try the long field goal

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by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:15pm

Bad pass by Brees on the conversion attempt.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:18pm

Interesting challenge on the 2-pter. It may be reversed.

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by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:18pm

From my understanding of the rules, that's not a catch, but I don't understand the rules. we shall see what happens

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by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:19pm

I hate to say it, but I'm going to have to defer to Phil Simms.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:19pm

Okay, if Manning gets a TD, does he go for two?

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by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:28pm

Well, no. But if the call hadn't been overturned, then yes.

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by the zebra you don't want to see (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:19pm

HAI GAIZ

Bet ya didn't know about that rule, did ya?

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by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:29pm

Nice call on not blitzing, there, Simms.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:29pm

Did not see that coming!

Neither did Manning!

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by Flounder :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:29pm

Ladies and gentleman, you Superbowl XLIV champs, the New Orleans Saints!

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by Rick A. (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:32pm

Super Bowl MVP: Tracy Porter

How great must this guy feel... picking off two legendary quarterbacks in back to back huge games to win the game? Favre in the NFCCG and Manning in the Super Bowl. DAYUM.

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by snik75 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:17pm

2 straight weeks with a pick off great QBs is huge... but not 32 for 39 passing, which is pretty awesome. I think Brees easily earned his MVP. Porter's pick sealed the deal, though.

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by Anonymous445234 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:34pm

YES!

€500 coming my way!

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by kamiyu206 :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:35pm

Thank you Tony Dungy and other morons for completely ignoring the Saints. You got paid.

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by Q (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:39pm

As lucky as the Colts have been this year I wouldn't be shocked to see them get a TD and recover the Onsides

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:40pm

The Colts have all three of their TOs. They can afford to kick away if they score fast enough.

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by miqewalsh :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:42pm

Don't think I've seen anyone try to untake a TO like that!

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by kamiyu206 :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:45pm

Game over. Congrats Saints fans.

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by snik75 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:57pm

Wow. I totally thought the Colts would score a TD there. Don't like the call to run, and definitely would have taken a TO after it failed. I know they called 2 plays before to hurry it up, but it just looked unorganized.

Was Manning really red after the INT, or was it just something strange on my TV?

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by RickD :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:14pm

We saw that too. I think something must have been weird with the color filters.

Though it did give us an opportunity to say "You know you're a redneck when you throw a pick-6 in the Super Bowl..."

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by Paul R :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 10:57pm

Well, Sean Payton sure as hell outcoached me. I didn't see a lot of that coming at all.
Good job, Saints.

Ya rotten bastards.

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by RickD :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:13pm

Best Simms moment of the night - as the Colts are driving at the end of the game, down by 14 and with less than 2 minutes on the clock, Phil Simms opines "If they get an TD here, they will probably want to try an onside kick."

Oh, really! You mean they're not going to just kick off with a minute left down by 7 points?

How is this guy the color commentator for the biggest sporting event of the year?

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Re: What happened ?
by BJB15 (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:30pm

When the Colts retrned the kickoff to their 35 and were called for a 10 yard holding there was a commercial break. When they came out of the break it was Colts 1st and 10 on their 14 !!! What happened?

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Re: What happened ?
by B :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:38pm

Holding penalties are applied at the spot of the foul, not the end of the run.

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by Darius (not verified) :: Sun, 02/07/2010 - 11:49pm

Two decisions I don't necessarily like:

You're up 10-6 at the end of the half, with the better part of 2 minutes on the clock. You have a hall-of-fame QB who excels at 2-minute drills. All the announcer stuff about monkeying around with the clock and then taking timeouts becomes worthless if the Colts actually try to use their offense and score.

4th and 11 at the 40ish. Why not take a shot? The Colts seem to pick up 3rd and 15 a bunch, so they have plenty of calls for that; if Stover misses or a pass goes incomplete, the downside is the same. The upside is a shot at a TD (with one of the league's top offenses) vs 3 points which are not a gimme.

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by snik75 (not verified) :: Mon, 02/08/2010 - 12:12am

I totally agree on the first point. And if they had started even at the 10, I think they would have played to score. If they try, they probably scored at least 3 points. When they got to the 9, and the Saints took a TO, I thought the TO was a mistake because the Colts would turn it on and burn them.

The second, I think is an easier gripe in hindsight. But it was asking a lot of Stover, probably to much. (Maybe that is obvious, givne the results).

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by Jon Silverberg (not verified) :: Mon, 02/08/2010 - 1:19am

Your first point seems to me to be the key decision of the game...I'm not surprised they ran on 1st down, but after that, I was shocked at 2 more runs...after watching Manning take most of the air out of the Jets' balloon in the space of 60 or so game seconds, I cannot fathom those calls here...

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by B :: Mon, 02/08/2010 - 11:22am

I disagree on going for it 4th and 11. However, It seemed like the Colts were stuck there, cause they had already gone for it on 4th and 2, so they couldn't punt, but attempting a 50 yard field goal was expecting too much of your kicker. I felt they should have punted. Of course, had they tried to pick up 7-8 yards on 3rd and 11 and made it a reasonable conversion, then going for it would have been the right choice.

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by Darius (not verified) :: Mon, 02/08/2010 - 2:11pm

I know it sounds a bit unorthodox. Taking a shot downfield at 3rd and 11 might not have been the best idea. But that's a bold playcall, and I'm down with that.

The Colts haven't stopped the Saints from scoring since what feels like Week 8. Does the difference between failure to convert on a 4th and 11 (let's say giving NO the ball at the 45) really make that much of a difference between a punt which gives them the ball at the 20? (And we all know how awesome the Colt special teams can be...)

I wonder what the percentages are, but my gut says that in a weird spot, if it's a choice between a bizarrely-bold play call involving Peyton Manning & Co, or trusting Colts special teams / gimpy defense to win the game, I'd take the offense.

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by Tofino :: Wed, 02/10/2010 - 1:11am

I say fellows, apparently the onside kick wasn't sporting, wot wot!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342457-onside-kick-was-dirty-pool

Read it twice to make sure it wasn't a joke. Huh.

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