Talk amongst yourselves
They're usually like this. Although this game does clearly mean a lot to the Patriots, with the loss last week and the loss earlier this year to the Jets.
Edelman needed that because he has Welker in front of him in the depth chart. Early in the season Welker was injured and he took his place. Now with Welker back he has less passes.
- Someone is writhing something in his game notebook right now.
- has anyone seen Vernon Gholston lately?
He doesn't play much when Calvin Pace is available...
I thought they moved him to linebacker.
Give this guy some screen passes and quick outs.
you have got to be kidding.
The Raiders go the boring route and kick the extra point to tie. And then are rewarded by a gift fumble and now have a chance to win with :27 to go.
This was my upset pick (yeah, huge reach, I know). It just felt like the Raiders were due with the new QB, even though he'll surely be exposed as awful for the rest of the year.
Falcons kicked the safe FG too today.
It's annoying to be brought back to the first page after posting.
Lets all send an email to the FO staff.
It's also annoying to have posts slide from (e.g.) page 1 to page 2 because previous posts are accumulating replies.
What really bugs me is that the unread post coloring doesn't work well after the thread reaches two pages. If you keep the page open and refresh, it's fine. However, if you reload the first page, all the postings on the second page get marked read before you see them.
so...no AFC North team will win today, barring a miracle. wow.
yeah, going to the end of the thread would be a lot better.
The Raiders win. Raiderjoe's response in 5 . . . 4 . . .
Just checked his prediction and he said 20-10. It became 20-17.
He also said the Steelers were going 30-3 on the Chiefs, so hold you horses calling him NostradamusJoe.
He also predicted the Lions by 31 and they won by 1. I just know we're going to have to hear about how much Sierra Nevada he's going to be drinking following the Raider victory and how he was right and we all need to sign their backup placekick holder to our fantasy rosters.
Classy play by NE! Going to Moss against Revis with 25 seconds to go.
And so the Jets call TO to try a throw to the end zone!
Games are up. Out of beer.
Are you snarking about the Eagles-Bears game?
Well, RJ should know the strengths and weaknesses of his own team. And some others.
I want them to move the Sunday night game up about a half hour. We have almost a full hour before it starts.
Raiders win. great win. sierra nevada porter ready to go. only 3 back of denv and 4 behind SD with 6 games to go
Bruce Gradkowski: The Silver-and-Black Jesus.
Yeah. Anything is possible.
Good for you, goodnight.
This is hilarious. Tom Jackson explaining that the Raiders were better today because they replaced their incompetent quarterback and he hands it off to . . . Trent Dilfer, patron saint of incompetent quarterbacks.
I know it has been mentioned here before, but it cannot be overstated. That Faith Hill intro to Sunday Night Football is just made of fail.
Vick in on the third play of the game--third & 1. And he gets a huge hole and runs for 35.
First drive of the game, the Eagles march down the field and get stuffed in the red zone, kicking a field goal. Eagles fans are already crying.
FREE ROCK CARTWRIGHT!!! Oh, right carry on.
While supplies last.
If ever there were such a thing as a moral defeat, the Cowboys had a moral defeat today.
Vick with a pass completion. Should have been a good play because Celek was open immediately, but Vick instead holds on for ten minutes before throwing while getting hit and getting lucky that Celek gets to it. Collinsworth, to his credit, sees is as the bad play by Vick that it was.
One of the bonuses of having a former WR in the booth.
McNabb looks pretty sharp so far.
re 309 - what the hell was wrong with going to Moss there with 25 seconds left - stop witht the "classy" BS. You hate the Pats, thats all there is to it. NFL player are professionals and get paid well, fans pay alot of $$$$$ to go watch the game, stop the damn offense or shut up. I can't wait for the playoffs when the Pats go back to Indy and kick their ass.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now.
Jeez, calm down. Your team won, why do you care whether someone on the internet snarked off at them?
Jason Avant scores on a little dumpoff that he runs in. Good play, and the Eagles move up 10-0. The Eagles so far definitely look like good.
What's the deal with Avant? Does he just get lost in the shuffle? Is he on the cusp of breaking out? With that td and his monster game last week he looks pretty good to me. Why did he get passed up for Maclin? Any in-the-know eagle fans have an assessment of him?
Johnny Knox on the kick return is just a few inches from turning into a touchdown. As it is, it ends up just being a good return.
By the way, Best Buy's holiday commercials of employees singing "carols" about what people should buy as gifts are creepy. I don't know why, but they really are.
The reason I find them creepy is: why sing about angels or family or peace on earth when you could be singing about buying stuff? Because that's what the holidays are all about.
The Bears are moving the ball this drive. Cutler is throwing well and they're finding some running room for Forte.
Cutler overthrows Greg Olsen by about 2 inches on a would-be touchdown.
Then he overthrows an equally-wide-open Devin Hester in the end zone by a couple of yards. The Bears settle for a field goal and the boo-birds start.
McNabb is getting good protection (as well-detailed by Michaels/Collinsworth, who are having a great game) and looks really good. Last time I saw them (which was 2 or 3 weeks ago--I can't remember for sure), he really worried me. Now, he looks like the McNabb I've seen before.
And, jinxed by Collinsworth, Michaels, and myself, the Eagles' o-line can't stop Tommie Harris, who sacks McNabb and doesn't punch anyone.
As a Bears fan, I love how Al Michaels just completely made Cade McNown sound pathetic. Anyone hear that?
I love that he said that he used Cade McNown because McNown asked him to get his name into the broadcast.
I guess if you want your name in a broadcast, you should specify to Al Michaels that you want it to be in a positive way.
My biggest question about that whole exchange was "Why the hell was Al Michaels talking to Cade McNown last week?"
The Bears introduce Khalil Bell, a rookie I had never heard of, and he breaks off a 72-yard run. He found a crease and went through it on a big blitz. First career carry for Bell.
And the Bears still settle for a field goal. Cutler tried an endzone throw, but it was through two defenders.
I laugh with delight at Cutler's failure.
McNabb just ran a complete circle and then some in the backfield before taking a sack.
It was supposed to be a screen, but the DT Harrison stepped in front of the RB so McNabb had nowhere to go.
And McNabb throws a pick to Bowman, who deserves some credit for muscling his way into that route to get the pick.
Then Cutler throws a bomb into double coverage intended for Hester that overthrows him by a mile.
Wow--the fans are booing Cutler every play, it seems.
And Johnny Knox can't hold onto a third-down pass that he should have had. Still wouldn't have made the first down, but that one was not Cutler's fault.
And DeSean Jackson makes a big punt return 53 yards.
And then Jackson fumbles, recovered by Chicago.
and then fumbles on the subsequent play. Derp.
What is with Cutler? As much as I've always disliked him, his accuracy isn't normally the issue. He has been way off several times already.
Maclin fumbles the ball away.
I think that was Jackson.
I thought it was Jackson, but then I thought I heard Al say it was Maclin. I probably misheard, because he doesn't normally make those types of mistakes.
Who the hell is Cutler throwing to?
Apparently, his imaginary friend is open on almost every play.
Earl Bennet catches a short pass and then breaks a tackle to turn it into 19 yards.
I think that's three offensive holding penalties on the Bears so far.
Checked and I'm right.
The Bears go for it on 4th and a half-yard, run a sneak, and get it.
Forte looks like he is on the verge of being replaced.
Once again, the Bears sputter in the red zone and have to kick a field goal. Cutler looks really bad tonight.
Cutler is reminding me of Jamarcus Russell today.
And now we have the official halftime [Viking QB] orgy. I think I'll pass on that.
Bob Costas was just talking about the "travesty" of an overtime system we currently have. I didn't like any of his alternatives better than the current system. However, what I think they should do is start overtime where the ball is at the end of the 4th quarter. That would eliminate the "randomness" of overtime.
I say no overtime in the regular season. It's a tie.
There is almost nothing I hate more than ties. So anticlimactic. There should always be a winner and a loser.
I guess I just don't understand that feeling, really. If you want a resolution, I do somewhat like the idea Jason Lisk suggested at the p-f-r blog: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1152
I hate this idea. With this system a team driving at the end of the game but running out of time gets all the time they need once OT starts.
I prefer the "win by 5" solution, personally.
How about this? Play better defense.
wow, huge sack on Cutler there.
Trent Cole takes down Cutler for a loss of 13.
No Eagles/Bears talk or am I just blind?
From 323 on, basically.
Gah, what was that with 12 men on the field????? Come on Eagles.
So, a net 11 yard kick on 4th and 12? That's ... pretty bad.
And Kahlil Bell has his first carry of less than 8 yards (-3) in his career and nearly his first fumble.
Then Cutler does his best to throw the ball through Sheldon Brown's chest.
Here was a rare occurrence: Praise of Dave Wannstedt. (McCoy was praising him for preparing him for the pros.)
And the boos rain down on Cutler again as he doesn't come anywhere near anyone on a 3rd-and-6 throw. This is starting to look painful. Well, and funny.
Okay, so it's mostly funny because it's Cutler.
McNabb throws a bomb to DeSean Jackson (this time I got it right!) for a TD. Nice throw and poor coverage.
Nice adjustment on the ball by Jackson when it was in the air.
Gah, this is killing me.
Cutler makes a nice throw under pressure for a TD this time.
Even better 2 pt conversion throw also.
Also, this is a night for players I have never heard of. I am a Bears fan, but I never knew Khalil Bell and Tim Shaw existed. They sound like Madden replacement players.
Winston Justice needs to never play on a professional team ever again.
Why don't more players do what Charles Tillman does? He always seems to force a fumble.
Because not all players have had Ron Rivera as a defensive coordinator. He was all about "tackle the ball"
Cutler continues to miss open receivers.
I am so glad for having Kyle Orton.
Watching this game-- what I thought is true. The Eagles may be better than my Giants, but they aren't a top 10 team.
McCoy takes it in for a TD. The Eagles have retaken the lead, 24-20.
Cutler again overthrows a bomb that would have probably resulted in a TD. There is something absolutely wrong here. I don't remember seeing him just miss on deep balls very often at all, let alone 3 times in one game, in Denver. Maybe it's all in Cutler's head, but anyway it's disconcerting to say the least.
Brian Burke gets mentioned in the broadcast--not by name, but still he was mentioned. I'm amazed at the attention 4th-and-2-gate has gotten him.
Bears getting the ball back. I have exactly zero confidence that he will lead the Bears to victory.
Well, Cutler's going to get a shot at a game-winning drive. Unless of course Hester returns the punt for a touchdown.
Nice ass, Devin Hester.
INTERCEPTED! And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the ball game! Whew!
Did Al Michaels say that using mathematics to show Belichick was right to go for it on 4th and 2 was like trying to prove that "the sun will rise in the west"? I didn't catch all of that, but if he did, I am mailing him a turd on Christmas.
I made a conscious effort not to hear him when he was actually discussing it. I was afraid of what he would say.
I didn't quite catch it either, but I think you should mail him a turd just on general principle.
I think Mr Michaels did not go far enough. Using mathematics to defend Belichick's call is as ludicrous as suggesting the Earth orbits the Sun.
And Cutler's pass is tipped and ends up an interception. Ballgame.
Hester got pantsed on the last drive.
Well, Cutler utterly failing somewhat makes up for Denver losing.
Ok. Now you've just turned the corner and gone from disapointed fan to irrational hater! :)
I didn't realize you thought I was around the corner in the other direction. :)
Man, Old Dogs looks like the worst movie ever. If the "from the creators of Wild Hogs" wasn't enough to warn me off, combining John Travolta and Robin Williams certainly will keep me far away.
Well, I've seen very little of the game tonight, but from what I have seen, Vince Young looks legitimately good. They're being careful with him, but he's doing what they're asking quite well. I'm impressed. Good for Vince.
Young has definitely played well tonight. Heimerdinger is using him cleverly with option plays, simple pass patterns to exploit the zone coverage, and a lot of deception. The threat of the option pulled the defense up on the touchdown pass, and the threat of Young keeping the ball is opening space for Chris Johnson. It's been a very steady, if unspectacular performance from Tennessee as a whole.
In fact, that describes the game as a whole - both teams have been steady, but unspectacular. It's been an interesting game, if not overwhelmingly engaging.
Bud Adams gives that go-ahead FG two middle fingers up.
Shanked. Ball game.
Vince Young Just Wins Games.
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