Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

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Re: Week 11 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:03pm

They're usually like this. Although this game does clearly mean a lot to the Patriots, with the loss last week and the loss earlier this year to the Jets.

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:10pm

Edelman needed that because he has Welker in front of him in the depth chart. Early in the season Welker was injured and he took his place. Now with Welker back he has less passes.

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:05pm

- Someone is writhing something in his game notebook right now.
- has anyone seen Vernon Gholston lately?

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:06pm

He doesn't play much when Calvin Pace is available...

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:14pm

I thought they moved him to linebacker.

Yuk. Fumble.
Give this guy some screen passes and quick outs.

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by Shane S. (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:13pm

you have got to be kidding.

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by Dave :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:13pm

The Raiders go the boring route and kick the extra point to tie. And then are rewarded by a gift fumble and now have a chance to win with :27 to go.

This was my upset pick (yeah, huge reach, I know). It just felt like the Raiders were due with the new QB, even though he'll surely be exposed as awful for the rest of the year.

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:15pm

Falcons kicked the safe FG too today.

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:17pm

It's annoying to be brought back to the first page after posting.
Lets all send an email to the FO staff.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:19pm

It's also annoying to have posts slide from (e.g.) page 1 to page 2 because previous posts are accumulating replies.

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by Ben :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 1:48am

What really bugs me is that the unread post coloring doesn't work well after the thread reaches two pages. If you keep the page open and refresh, it's fine. However, if you reload the first page, all the postings on the second page get marked read before you see them.

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by Shane S. (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:17pm

so...no AFC North team will win today, barring a miracle. wow.

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by Shane S. (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:18pm

yeah, going to the end of the thread would be a lot better.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:21pm

The Raiders win. Raiderjoe's response in 5 . . . 4 . . .

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:22pm

Just checked his prediction and he said 20-10. It became 20-17.
He also said the Steelers were going 30-3 on the Chiefs, so hold you horses calling him NostradamusJoe.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:25pm

He also predicted the Lions by 31 and they won by 1. I just know we're going to have to hear about how much Sierra Nevada he's going to be drinking following the Raider victory and how he was right and we all need to sign their backup placekick holder to our fantasy rosters.

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by Purds :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:22pm

Classy play by NE! Going to Moss against Revis with 25 seconds to go.

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by Purds :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:24pm

And so the Jets call TO to try a throw to the end zone!

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:24pm

Games are up. Out of beer.
Goodnight all.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:27pm

Are you snarking about the Eagles-Bears game?

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:32pm

No.

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by Shane S. (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:25pm

Well, RJ should know the strengths and weaknesses of his own team. And some others.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:30pm

I want them to move the Sunday night game up about a half hour. We have almost a full hour before it starts.

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by Raiderjoe :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:33pm

Raiders win. great win. sierra nevada porter ready to go. only 3 back of denv and 4 behind SD with 6 games to go

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:38pm

Bruce Gradkowski: The Silver-and-Black Jesus.

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by Theo :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:39pm

Yeah. Anything is possible.
Good for you, goodnight.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 8:44pm

This is hilarious. Tom Jackson explaining that the Raiders were better today because they replaced their incompetent quarterback and he hands it off to . . . Trent Dilfer, patron saint of incompetent quarterbacks.

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by Arson55 :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:28pm

I know it has been mentioned here before, but it cannot be overstated. That Faith Hill intro to Sunday Night Football is just made of fail.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:34pm

Vick in on the third play of the game--third & 1. And he gets a huge hole and runs for 35.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:38pm

First drive of the game, the Eagles march down the field and get stuffed in the red zone, kicking a field goal. Eagles fans are already crying.

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by underthebus1 (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:48pm

FREE ROCK CARTWRIGHT!!! Oh, right carry on.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:50pm

While supplies last.

If ever there were such a thing as a moral defeat, the Cowboys had a moral defeat today.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:48pm

Vick with a pass completion. Should have been a good play because Celek was open immediately, but Vick instead holds on for ten minutes before throwing while getting hit and getting lucky that Celek gets to it. Collinsworth, to his credit, sees is as the bad play by Vick that it was.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:55pm

One of the bonuses of having a former WR in the booth.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:50pm

McNabb looks pretty sharp so far.

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by Mr. Anderson, welcome back, we missed you (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:52pm

re 309 - what the hell was wrong with going to Moss there with 25 seconds left - stop witht the "classy" BS. You hate the Pats, thats all there is to it. NFL player are professionals and get paid well, fans pay alot of $$$$$ to go watch the game, stop the damn offense or shut up. I can't wait for the playoffs when the Pats go back to Indy and kick their ass.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:57pm

Let's not get ahead of ourselves now.

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by Esperanto Slim (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 11:14am

Jeez, calm down. Your team won, why do you care whether someone on the internet snarked off at them?

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:53pm

Jason Avant scores on a little dumpoff that he runs in. Good play, and the Eagles move up 10-0. The Eagles so far definitely look like good.

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by underthebus1 (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:05pm

What's the deal with Avant? Does he just get lost in the shuffle? Is he on the cusp of breaking out? With that td and his monster game last week he looks pretty good to me. Why did he get passed up for Maclin? Any in-the-know eagle fans have an assessment of him?

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 9:57pm

Johnny Knox on the kick return is just a few inches from turning into a touchdown. As it is, it ends up just being a good return.

By the way, Best Buy's holiday commercials of employees singing "carols" about what people should buy as gifts are creepy. I don't know why, but they really are.

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by Zheng :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 3:58pm

The reason I find them creepy is: why sing about angels or family or peace on earth when you could be singing about buying stuff? Because that's what the holidays are all about.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:01pm

The Bears are moving the ball this drive. Cutler is throwing well and they're finding some running room for Forte.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:04pm

Cutler overthrows Greg Olsen by about 2 inches on a would-be touchdown.

Then he overthrows an equally-wide-open Devin Hester in the end zone by a couple of yards. The Bears settle for a field goal and the boo-birds start.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:13pm

McNabb is getting good protection (as well-detailed by Michaels/Collinsworth, who are having a great game) and looks really good. Last time I saw them (which was 2 or 3 weeks ago--I can't remember for sure), he really worried me. Now, he looks like the McNabb I've seen before.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:15pm

And, jinxed by Collinsworth, Michaels, and myself, the Eagles' o-line can't stop Tommie Harris, who sacks McNabb and doesn't punch anyone.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:18pm

As a Bears fan, I love how Al Michaels just completely made Cade McNown sound pathetic. Anyone hear that?

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:21pm

I love that he said that he used Cade McNown because McNown asked him to get his name into the broadcast.

I guess if you want your name in a broadcast, you should specify to Al Michaels that you want it to be in a positive way.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:22pm

My biggest question about that whole exchange was "Why the hell was Al Michaels talking to Cade McNown last week?"

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:18pm

The Bears introduce Khalil Bell, a rookie I had never heard of, and he breaks off a 72-yard run. He found a crease and went through it on a big blitz. First career carry for Bell.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:19pm

And the Bears still settle for a field goal. Cutler tried an endzone throw, but it was through two defenders.

I laugh with delight at Cutler's failure.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:22pm

McNabb just ran a complete circle and then some in the backfield before taking a sack.

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by Dan :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:29pm

It was supposed to be a screen, but the DT Harrison stepped in front of the RB so McNabb had nowhere to go.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:26pm

And McNabb throws a pick to Bowman, who deserves some credit for muscling his way into that route to get the pick.

Then Cutler throws a bomb into double coverage intended for Hester that overthrows him by a mile.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:29pm

Wow--the fans are booing Cutler every play, it seems.

And Johnny Knox can't hold onto a third-down pass that he should have had. Still wouldn't have made the first down, but that one was not Cutler's fault.

And DeSean Jackson makes a big punt return 53 yards.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:32pm

And then Jackson fumbles, recovered by Chicago.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:32pm

and then fumbles on the subsequent play. Derp.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:31pm

What is with Cutler? As much as I've always disliked him, his accuracy isn't normally the issue. He has been way off several times already.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:32pm

Maclin fumbles the ball away.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:34pm

*Jackson--whoops.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:34pm

I think that was Jackson.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:36pm

I thought it was Jackson, but then I thought I heard Al say it was Maclin. I probably misheard, because he doesn't normally make those types of mistakes.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:35pm

Who the hell is Cutler throwing to?

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:45pm

Apparently, his imaginary friend is open on almost every play.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:37pm

Earl Bennet catches a short pass and then breaks a tackle to turn it into 19 yards.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:39pm

I think that's three offensive holding penalties on the Bears so far.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:40pm

Checked and I'm right.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:46pm

The Bears go for it on 4th and a half-yard, run a sneak, and get it.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:47pm

Forte looks like he is on the verge of being replaced.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:48pm

Agreed.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:50pm

Once again, the Bears sputter in the red zone and have to kick a field goal. Cutler looks really bad tonight.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:51pm

Cutler is reminding me of Jamarcus Russell today.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 10:54pm

And now we have the official halftime [Viking QB] orgy. I think I'll pass on that.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:04pm

Bob Costas was just talking about the "travesty" of an overtime system we currently have. I didn't like any of his alternatives better than the current system. However, what I think they should do is start overtime where the ball is at the end of the 4th quarter. That would eliminate the "randomness" of overtime.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:06pm

I say no overtime in the regular season. It's a tie.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:09pm

There is almost nothing I hate more than ties. So anticlimactic. There should always be a winner and a loser.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:13pm

I guess I just don't understand that feeling, really. If you want a resolution, I do somewhat like the idea Jason Lisk suggested at the p-f-r blog: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1152

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by B :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:10pm

I hate this idea. With this system a team driving at the end of the game but running out of time gets all the time they need once OT starts.
I prefer the "win by 5" solution, personally.

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by Harris :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:11pm

How about this? Play better defense.

Hail Hydra!

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:08pm

wow, huge sack on Cutler there.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:09pm

Trent Cole takes down Cutler for a loss of 13.

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by Alexander :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:09pm

No Eagles/Bears talk or am I just blind?

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:10pm

From 323 on, basically.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:13pm

Gah, what was that with 12 men on the field????? Come on Eagles.

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by B :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:15pm

So, a net 11 yard kick on 4th and 12? That's ... pretty bad.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:19pm

And Kahlil Bell has his first carry of less than 8 yards (-3) in his career and nearly his first fumble.

Then Cutler does his best to throw the ball through Sheldon Brown's chest.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:26pm

Here was a rare occurrence: Praise of Dave Wannstedt. (McCoy was praising him for preparing him for the pros.)

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:31pm

And the boos rain down on Cutler again as he doesn't come anywhere near anyone on a 3rd-and-6 throw. This is starting to look painful. Well, and funny.

Okay, so it's mostly funny because it's Cutler.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:34pm

McNabb throws a bomb to DeSean Jackson (this time I got it right!) for a TD. Nice throw and poor coverage.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:38pm

Nice adjustment on the ball by Jackson when it was in the air.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:40pm

Gah, this is killing me.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:40pm

Gah, this is killing me.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:40pm

Cutler makes a nice throw under pressure for a TD this time.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:44pm

Even better 2 pt conversion throw also.

Also, this is a night for players I have never heard of. I am a Bears fan, but I never knew Khalil Bell and Tim Shaw existed. They sound like Madden replacement players.

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by CathyW :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:44pm

Winston Justice needs to never play on a professional team ever again.

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by Mike Y :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:49pm

Why don't more players do what Charles Tillman does? He always seems to force a fumble.

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by Alexander :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:56pm

Because not all players have had Ron Rivera as a defensive coordinator. He was all about "tackle the ball"

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:54pm

Cutler continues to miss open receivers.

I am so glad for having Kyle Orton.

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by Dales :: Sun, 11/22/2009 - 11:58pm

Watching this game-- what I thought is true. The Eagles may be better than my Giants, but they aren't a top 10 team.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:09am

McCoy takes it in for a TD. The Eagles have retaken the lead, 24-20.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:19am

Cutler again overthrows a bomb that would have probably resulted in a TD. There is something absolutely wrong here. I don't remember seeing him just miss on deep balls very often at all, let alone 3 times in one game, in Denver. Maybe it's all in Cutler's head, but anyway it's disconcerting to say the least.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:23am

Brian Burke gets mentioned in the broadcast--not by name, but still he was mentioned. I'm amazed at the attention 4th-and-2-gate has gotten him.

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by Mike Y :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:25am

Bears getting the ball back. I have exactly zero confidence that he will lead the Bears to victory.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:26am

Well, Cutler's going to get a shot at a game-winning drive. Unless of course Hester returns the punt for a touchdown.

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by Mike Y :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:30am

Nice ass, Devin Hester.

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by CathyW :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:31am

INTERCEPTED! And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the ball game! Whew!

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by Pat F. :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:31am

Did Al Michaels say that using mathematics to show Belichick was right to go for it on 4th and 2 was like trying to prove that "the sun will rise in the west"? I didn't catch all of that, but if he did, I am mailing him a turd on Christmas.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:33am

I made a conscious effort not to hear him when he was actually discussing it. I was afraid of what he would say.

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by CathyW :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:34am

I didn't quite catch it either, but I think you should mail him a turd just on general principle.

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by Pope Paul V (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 7:53am

I think Mr Michaels did not go far enough. Using mathematics to defend Belichick's call is as ludicrous as suggesting the Earth orbits the Sun.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:31am

And Cutler's pass is tipped and ends up an interception. Ballgame.

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by Paul R :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:32am

Hester got pantsed on the last drive.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 12:36am

Well, Cutler utterly failing somewhat makes up for Denver losing.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 6:22am

Ok. Now you've just turned the corner and gone from disapointed fan to irrational hater! :)

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 9:24pm

I didn't realize you thought I was around the corner in the other direction. :)

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by B :: Mon, 11/23/2009 - 10:31pm

Man, Old Dogs looks like the worst movie ever. If the "from the creators of Wild Hogs" wasn't enough to warn me off, combining John Travolta and Robin Williams certainly will keep me far away.

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by The Guy You Don't Want to Hear (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:20am

Well, I've seen very little of the game tonight, but from what I have seen, Vince Young looks legitimately good. They're being careful with him, but he's doing what they're asking quite well. I'm impressed. Good for Vince.

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by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:30am

Young has definitely played well tonight. Heimerdinger is using him cleverly with option plays, simple pass patterns to exploit the zone coverage, and a lot of deception. The threat of the option pulled the defense up on the touchdown pass, and the threat of Young keeping the ball is opening space for Chris Johnson. It's been a very steady, if unspectacular performance from Tennessee as a whole.

In fact, that describes the game as a whole - both teams have been steady, but unspectacular. It's been an interesting game, if not overwhelmingly engaging.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:40am

Bud Adams gives that go-ahead FG two middle fingers up.

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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:46am

Shanked. Ball game.

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by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 11/24/2009 - 12:46am

Vince Young Just Wins Games.

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