So, the packers follow up a fumble on the kickoff...with a kicked pass that is intercepted. Yuck.
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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Q (not verified) :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:04am
GB's DVOA with a double digit lead has got to be the Worst in the league
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:06am
The New England Patriots would like to discuss your statement.
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by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:11am
*Ray Lewis has entire arm across Jenning's facemask*
Gruden: I don't know what they're calling there!
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by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:12am
We're going to top the 3 century mark in penalties tonight.
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by Q (not verified) :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:15am
It is easy to see why GB's D allows the fewest yards in the league, with all the penalty yards the opponent's receive it greatly reduces the possible yards for the opponent's offense
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:24am
The Ravens offense is trying its best to keep up with Green Bay's defense tonight.
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:19am
Have all the league's kickers recently entered into a conspiracy to make coaches less conservative by missing "gimme" field goals?
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by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:22am
3rd and 32...just glad the packers defense didn't do anything stupid...
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by Q (not verified) :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:25am
"Have all the league's kickers recently entered into a conspiracy to make coaches less conservative by missing "gimme" field goals?"
Have you watched GB at all this year? There is no gimme with GB when Special Teams are involved, any non fumble or non blocked punt is a moral victory
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:34am
Point taken, but I'm talking at a more macro level. Green Bay's was just the latest in a series of near-inexplicable misses.
Edit: You forgot to mention non-TD returns.
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by RickD :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:26am
Another terrible PI call.
Touching a defender is not necessarily OPI.
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:31am
I don't think that was a particularly bad call, but I've seen some absolute howlers over the past few weeks.
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by RickD :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:37am
Well, if the thinking behind the flag is that Woodson was thrown to the ground by the force of the arm, then the thinking is wrong. Woodson's momentum was not increased by the contact. He didn't even know where the ball was until Mason was past him.
That flag cost the Ravens a first down and 56 yards of field position. That's way too much of a penalty for that kind of contact.
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by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:31am
The referees do get taught, at some point, what constitutes pass interference, right? I don't recall there being so many bad calls growing up in the 80's
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:36am
Awful, awful, awful, awful, awful call. It seems to me at this point they're just assuming good coverage must be interference.
They really need to do something with that rule somewhere. I'm not sure what, but some of the calls are completely ridiculous. It often seems like defensive backs aren't allowed to cover anymore.
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by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:34am
seriously. wtf is going on with these PI penalties.
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by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:34am
What's the record for PI penalties in a game? That's 10 counting Mason's OPI...
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by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:38am
"THAT IS AWFUL!"
Awesome.
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:40am
And totally correct. That was Cutler-against-the-49ers bad.
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by RickD :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:39am
Terrible pick by Flacco. DON'T THROW ACROSS YOUR BODY! That wasn't even close.
End zone picks are killers. When you're down by 10 with less than 9 minutes in the game, and you're inside the 10, you CANNOT throw a pick.
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:47am
If it's any consolation, he didn't make the same mistake on the next drive. Well, at least not the "end zone", "inside the 10" part. The "throwing to a guy who's completely covered" part, on the other hand...
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by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:45am
That was Favreian!
I think Flacco's got quite a future but hot damn those were, well, AWFUL!
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by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:53am
this is one time where I wish I was wrong. 300 yards? geesh.
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by Sid :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 1:05am
The MNF game finished tied for second in NFL history in single game penalty yardage.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:04pm
Can't find a newer thread.
Start of 3rd Q, Steelers down 13-3 to the CLEVELAND F'N BROWNS.
75 yards of offense in the 1st half.
FIRE OMAR TOMLIN!!! DISGRACEFUL TEAM.
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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:12am
They're going to have to call it AGS Thursday Edition this week.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:14am
FIRE OMAR TARDLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PATHETIC!
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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Mystyc :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:20am
I am considering giving up on this team permanently, not because of their performance, but because then I don't have to be even remotely associated with you.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 1:11am
Nevermind, I don't want to get in a flame war.
Defending SB loss to 3 perennial bottom-6 teams. Enough said.
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by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:33am
You should become a Mets fan. Then you could say that twice as often.
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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by wr (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:38am
Did anyone actually watch the game? The radio commentary made it sound a lot like
the Steelers mailed this one in...
And the Captcha is 'boxers increase'...
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by John (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:59am
Watched some of it. Ben seemed easier to bring down than I remember from years past; I don't think Pittsburgh can wait much longer to fix their O-line problems if they want to keep him healthy and productive. Then again, how many years have we been saying that?
It never felt like a close game, despite the score. Pittsburgh couldn't get anything going, and the two punts I watched were unimpressive, helping Cleveland spend a lot of time near mid-field. Cleveland wasn't exactly lights out on offense, but they didn't need much, which is a very sad state of affairs for Steeler Nation.
I'd have enjoyed the game much more if it hadn't meant a victory for Mangini.
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by RickD :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 1:50am
I watched a lot of it. The Steelers did mail it in.
The Browns were playing with fire, while the Steelers looked like they didn't want to be there at all. They were demoralized from the start and nobody looked like they wanted to make big plays.
Roethlisberger was sacked five times in the first half!
The mighty Browns defense held them to 3.4 yards/rush and 4.4 yards per pass attempt.
Mangini probably got a bit of breathing room with this win.
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So, the packers follow up a fumble on the kickoff...with a kicked pass that is intercepted. Yuck.
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GB's DVOA with a double digit lead has got to be the Worst in the league
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
The New England Patriots would like to discuss your statement.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
*Ray Lewis has entire arm across Jenning's facemask*
Gruden: I don't know what they're calling there!
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
We're going to top the 3 century mark in penalties tonight.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
It is easy to see why GB's D allows the fewest yards in the league, with all the penalty yards the opponent's receive it greatly reduces the possible yards for the opponent's offense
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
The Ravens offense is trying its best to keep up with Green Bay's defense tonight.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Have all the league's kickers recently entered into a conspiracy to make coaches less conservative by missing "gimme" field goals?
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
3rd and 32...just glad the packers defense didn't do anything stupid...
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
"Have all the league's kickers recently entered into a conspiracy to make coaches less conservative by missing "gimme" field goals?"
Have you watched GB at all this year? There is no gimme with GB when Special Teams are involved, any non fumble or non blocked punt is a moral victory
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Point taken, but I'm talking at a more macro level. Green Bay's was just the latest in a series of near-inexplicable misses.
Edit: You forgot to mention non-TD returns.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Another terrible PI call.
Touching a defender is not necessarily OPI.
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I don't think that was a particularly bad call, but I've seen some absolute howlers over the past few weeks.
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Well, if the thinking behind the flag is that Woodson was thrown to the ground by the force of the arm, then the thinking is wrong. Woodson's momentum was not increased by the contact. He didn't even know where the ball was until Mason was past him.
That flag cost the Ravens a first down and 56 yards of field position. That's way too much of a penalty for that kind of contact.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
The referees do get taught, at some point, what constitutes pass interference, right? I don't recall there being so many bad calls growing up in the 80's
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Awful, awful, awful, awful, awful call. It seems to me at this point they're just assuming good coverage must be interference.
They really need to do something with that rule somewhere. I'm not sure what, but some of the calls are completely ridiculous. It often seems like defensive backs aren't allowed to cover anymore.
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seriously. wtf is going on with these PI penalties.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
What's the record for PI penalties in a game? That's 10 counting Mason's OPI...
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
"THAT IS AWFUL!"
Awesome.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
And totally correct. That was Cutler-against-the-49ers bad.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Terrible pick by Flacco. DON'T THROW ACROSS YOUR BODY! That wasn't even close.
End zone picks are killers. When you're down by 10 with less than 9 minutes in the game, and you're inside the 10, you CANNOT throw a pick.
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If it's any consolation, he didn't make the same mistake on the next drive. Well, at least not the "end zone", "inside the 10" part. The "throwing to a guy who's completely covered" part, on the other hand...
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That was Favreian!
I think Flacco's got quite a future but hot damn those were, well, AWFUL!
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
this is one time where I wish I was wrong. 300 yards? geesh.
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The MNF game finished tied for second in NFL history in single game penalty yardage.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Can't find a newer thread.
Start of 3rd Q, Steelers down 13-3 to the CLEVELAND F'N BROWNS.
75 yards of offense in the 1st half.
FIRE OMAR TOMLIN!!! DISGRACEFUL TEAM.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
They're going to have to call it AGS Thursday Edition this week.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
FIRE OMAR TARDLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PATHETIC!
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
I am considering giving up on this team permanently, not because of their performance, but because then I don't have to be even remotely associated with you.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Nevermind, I don't want to get in a flame war.
Defending SB loss to 3 perennial bottom-6 teams. Enough said.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
You should become a Mets fan. Then you could say that twice as often.
Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
Did anyone actually watch the game? The radio commentary made it sound a lot like
the Steelers mailed this one in...
And the Captcha is 'boxers increase'...
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Watched some of it. Ben seemed easier to bring down than I remember from years past; I don't think Pittsburgh can wait much longer to fix their O-line problems if they want to keep him healthy and productive. Then again, how many years have we been saying that?
It never felt like a close game, despite the score. Pittsburgh couldn't get anything going, and the two punts I watched were unimpressive, helping Cleveland spend a lot of time near mid-field. Cleveland wasn't exactly lights out on offense, but they didn't need much, which is a very sad state of affairs for Steeler Nation.
I'd have enjoyed the game much more if it hadn't meant a victory for Mangini.
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I watched a lot of it. The Steelers did mail it in.
The Browns were playing with fire, while the Steelers looked like they didn't want to be there at all. They were demoralized from the start and nobody looked like they wanted to make big plays.
Roethlisberger was sacked five times in the first half!
The mighty Browns defense held them to 3.4 yards/rush and 4.4 yards per pass attempt.
Mangini probably got a bit of breathing room with this win.