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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:01am

So, the packers follow up a fumble on the kickoff...with a kicked pass that is intercepted. Yuck.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Q (not verified) :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:04am

GB's DVOA with a double digit lead has got to be the Worst in the league

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:06am

The New England Patriots would like to discuss your statement.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:11am

*Ray Lewis has entire arm across Jenning's facemask*

Gruden: I don't know what they're calling there!

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:12am

We're going to top the 3 century mark in penalties tonight.

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by Q (not verified) :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:15am

It is easy to see why GB's D allows the fewest yards in the league, with all the penalty yards the opponent's receive it greatly reduces the possible yards for the opponent's offense

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:24am

The Ravens offense is trying its best to keep up with Green Bay's defense tonight.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:19am

Have all the league's kickers recently entered into a conspiracy to make coaches less conservative by missing "gimme" field goals?

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:22am

3rd and 32...just glad the packers defense didn't do anything stupid...

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Q (not verified) :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:25am

"Have all the league's kickers recently entered into a conspiracy to make coaches less conservative by missing "gimme" field goals?"

Have you watched GB at all this year? There is no gimme with GB when Special Teams are involved, any non fumble or non blocked punt is a moral victory

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:34am

Point taken, but I'm talking at a more macro level. Green Bay's was just the latest in a series of near-inexplicable misses.

Edit: You forgot to mention non-TD returns.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by RickD :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:26am

Another terrible PI call.

Touching a defender is not necessarily OPI.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:31am

I don't think that was a particularly bad call, but I've seen some absolute howlers over the past few weeks.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by RickD :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:37am

Well, if the thinking behind the flag is that Woodson was thrown to the ground by the force of the arm, then the thinking is wrong. Woodson's momentum was not increased by the contact. He didn't even know where the ball was until Mason was past him.

That flag cost the Ravens a first down and 56 yards of field position. That's way too much of a penalty for that kind of contact.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:31am

The referees do get taught, at some point, what constitutes pass interference, right? I don't recall there being so many bad calls growing up in the 80's

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:36am

Awful, awful, awful, awful, awful call. It seems to me at this point they're just assuming good coverage must be interference.

They really need to do something with that rule somewhere. I'm not sure what, but some of the calls are completely ridiculous. It often seems like defensive backs aren't allowed to cover anymore.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:34am

seriously. wtf is going on with these PI penalties.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:34am

What's the record for PI penalties in a game? That's 10 counting Mason's OPI...

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:38am

"THAT IS AWFUL!"

Awesome.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:40am

And totally correct. That was Cutler-against-the-49ers bad.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by RickD :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:39am

Terrible pick by Flacco. DON'T THROW ACROSS YOUR BODY! That wasn't even close.

End zone picks are killers. When you're down by 10 with less than 9 minutes in the game, and you're inside the 10, you CANNOT throw a pick.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:47am

If it's any consolation, he didn't make the same mistake on the next drive. Well, at least not the "end zone", "inside the 10" part. The "throwing to a guy who's completely covered" part, on the other hand...

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by Pat F. :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:45am

That was Favreian!

I think Flacco's got quite a future but hot damn those were, well, AWFUL!

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by batbatt :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 12:53am

this is one time where I wish I was wrong. 300 yards? geesh.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Sid :: Tue, 12/08/2009 - 1:05am

The MNF game finished tied for second in NFL history in single game penalty yardage.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Thu, 12/10/2009 - 11:04pm

Can't find a newer thread.

Start of 3rd Q, Steelers down 13-3 to the CLEVELAND F'N BROWNS.
75 yards of offense in the 1st half.

FIRE OMAR TOMLIN!!! DISGRACEFUL TEAM.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:12am

They're going to have to call it AGS Thursday Edition this week.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:14am

FIRE OMAR TARDLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PATHETIC!

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by Mystyc :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:20am

I am considering giving up on this team permanently, not because of their performance, but because then I don't have to be even remotely associated with you.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 1:11am

Nevermind, I don't want to get in a flame war.

Defending SB loss to 3 perennial bottom-6 teams. Enough said.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by just another dumb homer (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:33am

You should become a Mets fan. Then you could say that twice as often.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by wr (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:38am

Did anyone actually watch the game? The radio commentary made it sound a lot like
the Steelers mailed this one in...

And the Captcha is 'boxers increase'...

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by John (not verified) :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 12:59am

Watched some of it. Ben seemed easier to bring down than I remember from years past; I don't think Pittsburgh can wait much longer to fix their O-line problems if they want to keep him healthy and productive. Then again, how many years have we been saying that?

It never felt like a close game, despite the score. Pittsburgh couldn't get anything going, and the two punts I watched were unimpressive, helping Cleveland spend a lot of time near mid-field. Cleveland wasn't exactly lights out on offense, but they didn't need much, which is a very sad state of affairs for Steeler Nation.

I'd have enjoyed the game much more if it hadn't meant a victory for Mangini.

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Re: Week 13 Open Discussion Thread
by RickD :: Fri, 12/11/2009 - 1:50am

I watched a lot of it. The Steelers did mail it in.

The Browns were playing with fire, while the Steelers looked like they didn't want to be there at all. They were demoralized from the start and nobody looked like they wanted to make big plays.

Roethlisberger was sacked five times in the first half!

The mighty Browns defense held them to 3.4 yards/rush and 4.4 yards per pass attempt.

Mangini probably got a bit of breathing room with this win.

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