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17 Sep 2010

Week 2 Open Discussion Thread

Talk about the Week 2 action here.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 17 Sep 2010

241 replies , Last at 21 Sep 2010, 12:50am by SteveNC

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:56am

Yarrr! Happy talk like a pirate day. Let's make those QBs walk the plank.

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by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:35pm

Do this mean that th' Buccaneers do have a better chance ter open th' season 2-0, ahrrr?

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:37pm

Yarr Matey. And the Raaiiiderrs might actually win a game this season.

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by Nathan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:39pm

FO has to be the only all-football site on the web where commenters actually know about Talk Like A Pirate day.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:59pm

Joe Buck what the fark was that about ?

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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.

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by lloyd :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:59pm

Color me shocked that Buck and Aikman are doing a Cowboys game. I'll be keeping my TV on CBS, thanks.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:03pm

Steelers rape the Titans on end around kickoff return to open the game.
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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 5:18am

Ha! Thousands of words in the English language...

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:04pm

Did anybody else see that? The Steelers just ran a reverse on the opening kick-off, and ran it in for a TD.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:04pm

It wasn't even a true reverse- Antonio Brown acted like he was a blocker and Moore handed the ball off to him.

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:08pm

Moore was running left, and handed the ball to Brown, who was running right. The ball reversed direction, thus it was a reverse.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:15pm

announcer called it an endarrrrrrrrghround.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:04pm

Steelers Special Teams come through yet again, and for once I don't mean that ironically.

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by Sidewards :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:07pm

I'm fairly certain that this game has made the 2010 Steelers Special Teams cumulatively better than the 2009 Steelers Special Teams.

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by Yaxley :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:10pm

Dennis Dixon is the only person on earth who didn't see that sack coming. Ouch.

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by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:16pm

I have to disagree with Joe Buck. Cutler's not going to have a long day, because quite frankly he's not going to live long enough to have a long day if this keeps up.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:18pm

A buddy of mine watching the game is pretty sure Cutler's been hit on every passing play.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:24pm

That's the Steelers special teams we know and love.

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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:27pm

I'm not a fan of the Eagles, and I'm not a fan of the Lions. But I am a fan of entertaining quarterback controversies...

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:30pm

Vince with a beautiful throw to Troy Polamalu on the post route.

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:37pm

Bills had a defensive end covering Finley of the Packers. That's an odd choice.......

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by Dr. Mooch :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 7:29am

The Bills' coaches started taking LSD over the summer and have their dose up to the point now where they think Chris Kelsay is a an OLB suited for 3-4 play. It's really tough to watch for those of us who aren't on drugs.

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:42pm

Rodgers talks McCarthy into a challenge that did not succeed and then runs for the first down on 3rd and 10. So it's all square

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:44pm

Packers announcer just referred to "Brian Jackson".

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:45pm

If the Bills cannot figure out to block Clay Mathews Jr. this game will get out of hand quickly.

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by Zilla (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:47pm

I was very aggravated at first because they way it turned out on my cable is that CBS is blacked out so I'm stuck with FOX, and a Bears/Cowboys game that I thought was going to be boring, but it's probably the best game going on right now.

Bears offensive line...needs improvement. Though when the Cowboys start assuming that they will sack Cutler every play then they end up letting 10 yard completions become 50 yard touchdowns.

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by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:48pm

That was an insanely awesome Vontae Davis pick to watch. It was like a four-person tip drill while lying on the ground at the one-yard line!

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:59pm

Falcons make Hightower look like Mendenhall. Ryan locked on White again today.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:04pm

Ryan starting to spread the ball around; Snelling looking good as receiver out of backfield after Norwood was injured on opening kickoff.

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by David Jones (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:08pm

There's the Seneca Wallace I remember from his Seattle days...great looking pick-six.

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by David Jones (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:11pm

And then of course he repays my comment by throwing a TD bomb to Cribbs...

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:16pm

85td from Chris Johnson is called back on a holding. The steelers are great containing him while managing Vince Young throwing 2 picks...

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:18pm

Batch is in by the way, Dixon is out with a knee injury. No backups left and Randle El could be the last resort if Batch goes out.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:19pm

I'm not sure I can survive two more ugly Steelers games before BRoeth comes back.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:19pm

Arizona is a regular penalty factory and Snelling is looking very good. Turner has been out in the 2nd quarter, now on his way to locker room.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:22pm

Groin injury for Turner.

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by Lvess :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:28pm

Did Jamal Charles steal Todd Haley's lunch money or something?

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:38pm

Jason Whitlock thinks Haley and Pioli don't want to play him because he was a Herm/Peterson pick. It's no crazier than Mike Florio saying the Steelers didn't want Dixon to play because they wanted to keep his value down.

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:29pm

Anyone else having trouble NFL AudioPass? My Sirius failed and now this keeps failing.

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by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:31pm

This may seem harsh, and I know the Bills have a solid secondary, but Rodgers has had time to throw and missed some throws. For a guy where accuracy is his schtick this is a game and a half now where the ball isn't going where it needs to go a fair amount of the time.

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by Flounder :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:19pm

He was a little off in the 2nd quarter, but he did complete 66% for the game. Not his greatest game ever, but it was a good, solid effort. Bulaga replacing Clifton helped. Sadly, I think Chad has hit the wall.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:48pm

Something wrong with C Johnson, shook and shaked his head before the snap and in the huddle. Still gave him the ball... See how this goes.

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:51pm

Any other Red Zone viewers finding this week to be even sloppier than Week 1 so far?

I'm seeing an awful lot of bad, bad football.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:55pm

If you mean fumbles, yes, but that's good defense. Defenses seem to be better early on in the season while offenses get their timing down.

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:58pm

There's a lot more than fumbles. Terrible decisions. Bad play calling. Bad tackling. Wildly inaccurate passes. Dumb penalties. I expect that stuff early in the year, of course, especially by offenses. But it seems worse this week than last.

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by ChaosOnion (not verified) :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 8:45am

It is like every quarter back is Tony Romo. (late to the party...)

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:53pm

Derek Anderson should be banned from the starting quarterback position.

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by morganja :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:54pm

Walt Coleman's crew is an unbelievably bad officiating crew. Their level of incompetence is just staggering. Why is nothing ever done about these clowns?

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:55pm

What now?

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:55pm

Derek Anderson does what Derek does, overthrow to William Moore. Finnernan on the fade to the corner for 6. Amazing that he's still playing.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:14pm

Kerry Collins is warming up for the Titans.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:14pm

Good week for ads..."ve are here.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:17pm

Steelers O Lineman dropping like flies...........

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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:25pm

They've had 3 people at LT now? Scott, Adams and Hills.
They're lucky if they pull this one off. One play can make this exiting but C Johnson looks exhausted and Vince Young isn't good either.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:22pm

Cardinals falling apart. Start at 2 after retun man steps on goal line when deciding to down the kickoff.

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:26pm

I'd like to get off the Matt Moore bandwagon, please.

Guess I'm not right every time...

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:33pm

I dropped him off my fantasy football team already for Mike Vick. Then someone offered me Jospeph Addai for him. Good deal. I think.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:28pm

Derek Anderson takes shot to ribs by Babineaux, stays in. Who is the AZ QB backup?

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:31pm

Wouldn't it be Matt Leinhart?

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:34pm

Matt Leinart is on the Texans nowadays.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:32pm

Some guy and Max Hall.

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:30pm

I just need to bitch about "Life as we Know It" for a moment. Honestly, what horrible parents, in the event of their death, leave their child to two people who don't even like each other? However, seeing Katherine Heigel smeared with shit almost makes it worth it.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:35pm

Sorry, on what football team is this?

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:31pm

OK... can anyone name a game with worse overall QB play in good weather than the Pit-Ten game today?

I know they both have good defenses, but wow. This makes Flacco v Sanchez last week look like Manning v Brady.

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by morganja :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:33pm

Hmmm. I sense a new irrational quarterback debate coming on. Who really is the worst quarterback?

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by Calig23 :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:36pm

Flacco and Palmer's display today has been pretty dreadful. At one point, I think Flacco was averaging 1.4 yards per attempt.

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:37pm

Cleveland and Chicago last year. Anderson and Cutler combined 22 out of 50 for ~300 yards and 3 interceptions and 5 sacks. Can't even really call it good defense, either.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200911010chi.htm

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:39pm

Last year's Browns-Bills 6-3 travesty. With God-knows-who starting at quarterback (either Edwards or Fitzpatrick) for the Bills, and Derek Anderson (who should be banned from starting at quarterback) starting for the Browns. Bills quarterbacks were bad, and Anderson kindly went 2-for-13 with thirty-something yards in that game.

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:14pm

Good examples, all.

Collins is making a bid to remove this game from consideration.

(In response to a different post, I disagree with the assessments of Dixon and Batch. Neither was as good as you say. Though I think they were each sort of neutered by the play calling.)

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:40pm

Well Dixon wasn't half bad, and Young was pretty bad. Then Dixon got injured and was replaced by Batch who was plain. Young was pulled for Collins who is old and... not so good.
This game was done when the Steelers made it 13-3 and hit C Johnson in the head. The can not make a comeback even if they have 20 more quarters to play.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:32pm

The Steelers defense is frighteningly good so far this year. I'm not sure they can sustain it if the offense doesn't raise their game to at least mediocre, but right now they're putting on a show.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:49pm

Agreed. They shut things down easily and have depth too. Hampton goes out and Hoke and Hood fill in easily. Farrior goes out and good ol' Larry Foote comes in. And some others.

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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:40pm

I didn't expect Mike Vick to look this good. And just by way of heaping on the irony, the announcers say Vick credits his improvement to... Donovan McNabb!

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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:49pm

And 3rd and 1, then again on 4th and 1, the Lions go to power formation with Ndamukong Suh in at fullback. Result: 2 runs up the middle (or into the middle, as the case may be) for -1 yards.

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by Andrew Potter :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:51pm

Did somebody forget to tell Dallas there's a game this week?

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:54pm

Cowboys... bwahahahahahaha.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:54pm

Kerry Rhodes tossed for touching a ref

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by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:55pm

A Miami win, and four turnovers by Brett Favre in Minnesota. That combination is a better high than any drug!

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:00pm

Favre would prefer Vicodin, I bet.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:56pm

Jason Snelling scores again

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:59pm

Wonder if TMQ will make note of the hidden play in Detroit. Up ten, a Lion DB dropped a gimme INT on a terrible throw by Vick (he threw two in a row in that sequence, but seems rock solid otherwise). Instead of up ten with the ball, they gave up two quick scores and haven't had any hope since then.

It's the Lions, so up ten with the ball isn't any kind of guarantee, of course, especially in the first half. But that really turned things around for the Eagles.

(Williams and Brown tried to one up him in Minnesota, but Viking QB wouldn't stand for it.)

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:30pm

Lions just recovered an onside kick at 35-32. Incredible.

Maybe that dropped INT matters after all.

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:34pm

Or not. They're still the Lions.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:00pm

ATTENTION PIGS:

THE BUCCANEERS ARE 2-0 AND THE VIKINGS ARE 0-2 TO START THE SEASON. TAKE-OFF WILL BEGIN AT 1600 HOURS.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:05pm

SICK SICK play by Polamalu.

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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.

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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:06pm

Max Hall makes his debut in Garbage time, picked on an underthrow on a go route.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:09pm

And just when I was wondering why Polamalu is still in the game, he makes an awesome goal line play.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:10pm

Can you do an onside kick like that?!

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:10pm

Farking Will Allen idiot!

DIE!

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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:14pm

Polamalu on the wrong place as always when they go deep.
Polamalu is one of the best safeties in the game with someone behind him, but in situations like this... he's not that good. Hope he proves me wrong.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:12pm

I'd like to say I didn't see this coming.

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by South Bay Bengal (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:18pm

WHO DEY! Let's see if this gets the Bengals to the top 10 in DVOA rankings. Likely their inability to actually get in the end-zone will leave them in the middle of the pack...

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:20pm

Who's watching the NE - NYJ game?

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:30pm

I am.

delay of game, kicking team. This denies a NE FG, and moves the ball 5 yards back => missed FG.

Sanchize picked on first pass. Under review.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:34pm

I know that's such a hard play. Your hands need to be bigger than the plain of the ball.
So you got to get it exactly there or they'll rule it incomplete.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:30pm

I am. Gostkowski missed a field goal, and Sanchize answers back by throwing an interception.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:33pm

And the interception gets called back.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:36pm

A three and out on the first drive. AKA best case scenario, Jets.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:43pm

Welker gets creamed 15 yards down field - defenseless reciever is called. Welker i shaken up, but will return soon.

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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:57pm

Welker comes out for 6-8 plays. On the sidelines they show him getting the concussion workup. Pats have goal-to-go, Welker comes back, touchdown Welker. Welker celebrates by head-butting several teammates.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:09pm

eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm. You can over react on the concussion thing, the head butting thing is nothing. My dad said "you got to get aroung the defenders, but then you got to get away from you team mates too when they celebrate."

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:46pm

The Bear's secondary doesn't seem great, but that front 7 is amazing so far.

I think I'd like to see a little more man coverage on 3rd down instead of wide open holes 15 yards downfield by the sidelines.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:53pm

Wes Welker is a machine.

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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:09pm

One play after they show a graphic about Garrard and Rivers having the two longest active streaks of games without 3+ picks, Garrard throws his first pick of the first half.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:09pm

Braylon Edwards with a jump-ball touchdown. He celebrates by being called for taunting.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:14pm

That shouldn't overshadow the fact that it was a fie drive by the Jets. 77 yards, 12 plays and around 7 minutes. Dink-and-dunk mostly, but by Jets standards it is huge.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:12pm

In related news, Mark Sanchez threw a touchdown pass that was caught by Braylon Edwards. Surprises all around...

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:15pm

It looked like the Bronco's running back just threw the ball forward there. Broncos extremely lucky it just goes out of bounds.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:15pm

So far, Antonio Cromartie is having as much trouble covering Wes Welker as he does remembering his [nine] kids' names.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:16pm

double post

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:16pm

Vick was mediocre today. Yeah he made some nice moves to evade some sacks and he put up some yards, but he didn't hit receivers in stride, didn't put the ball where only his guys could catch it... in other words same old Vick.

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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:21pm

Uh... You know Vick was the one in the Eagles uniform, right?

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:22pm

I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is that Michael Vick looked like the Michael Vick of old. Which is to say he made some dazzling plays but didn't make the plays real QBs make.

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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:43pm


I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is that Michael Vick looked like the Michael Vick of old.

I thought your point was that Vick "made some nice moves to evade some sacks and he put up some yards, but he didn't hit receivers in stride, didn't put the ball where only his guys could catch it." He did make some good moves to avoid the pressure, but if that 45 yard touchdown to DeSean Jackson wasn't hitting his receiver in stride, what is? He also made some throws underneath where he really had to thread it in there.

I guess I didn't see his whole game last week, but I wouldn't have thought he had this kind of performance in him. Certainly from what I did see last week, he looked like the run-first Vick of old. Not so much against the Lions.

Anyway, we probably won't see him out there again for a long time. The question now is... Can the Eagles win a few with Kolb?

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by dmb :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:21pm

I didn't watch Vick today, but when I watched him last week, I came away thinking that he looked like the exact same player he was a few years ago.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:20pm

Sam Bradford is 9/11-119-1/0. Pretty good - or the Raiders being worse than i thought.

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by dmb :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:23pm

McNabb is 12/16 for 239 yards; he's had long throws to Joey Galloway, Chris Cooley, and Fred Davis.

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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:26pm

Matt Leinart's got to be thinking "I lost my job to this guy?". Anderson's always been extremely inaccurate and interception-prone, even in college and even in his pro bowl year. I'm not sure why the Cards thought they were going to get something different.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:30pm

So is the QB-needy teams in the league. Leinart can't possibly get more than clipboard duty again.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:33pm

Maybe they didn't expect anything different. Maybe Leinart is even worse.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:29pm

revis island scorched.

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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:30pm

Sweet one-handed TD grab by Moss. The play was set up by an amazing catch and run by the rookie TE Hernendez, though.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:30pm

Randy Moss has established real estate on "Revis Island", touchdown Patriots. Beatiful one-handed catch.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:32pm

Moss beats Revis, and makes the best cathch I've ever seen. That is utterly insane. It's the Dallas Clark pizza-catch, only with complete control.

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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:42pm

I've never seen another receiver just reach out and casually palm the ball out of the air like Moss can. Most receivers who catch the ball with one hand still have to pull it in quickly and pin it against their bodies to avoid dropping it, but not Moss.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:47pm

Jerry Rice and Chris Carter would like to have a word with you. I'll assume that you didn't see Fred Biletnikoff play.

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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:53pm

You assume correctly. Biletnikoff was well before my time. I missed most of Rice's and Carter's careers too--I was born in 1988, by which point both Rice and Carter were already in the NFL.

At any rate, let's just agree that it was a ridiculous catch, and that few if any other receivers in the league right now could have made it.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:52pm

Yep - a lot of players will catch that pass. Noone will catch it like that. He caught it like you would catch a baseball with a mit.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:35pm

Revis got beat so hard he hurt himself.

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by Flounder :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:35pm

Love the "oh my hamstring hurts, watch how I grabbed at it while Moss is catching a TD pass"

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by Rhys :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:40pm

Revis Island was torched so bad there that it's still on fire.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:40pm

Yeah it seemed like "Dang, I got owned.. Quick, look hurt!"

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by Flounder :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:47pm

Yeah. I'm not contending that he's not hurt at all, but it sure looked like Revis wanted to make sure everyone remembered.

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by Rhys :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:00pm

Revis hasn't come out for the first Jets defensive drive of the second half, it looks like he wasn't faking. Jets are saying Revis is questionable to come back in.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:41pm

Revis Island just got 2 times bigger. Not because he allowed a TD, but because Moss lined up in the middle. Revis uses the sideline, in the middle he can't and that's what the Patriots found out. I wonder how many more WRs can beat Revis on this island.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:43pm

Is it too early to say that Favre is looking old?

If he doesn't start playing like a probowler soon, the Vikings are going to be in serious trouble.

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:45pm

Is it 2006? Then no, it is not too early.

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by CuseFanInSoCal :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:41pm

Since Favre in a Evil Purple uniform is just wrong, I'm completely in favor of the Vikings being in serious trouble (and wish Favre the best of luck in any non-Vikings-related future activities).

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by young curmudgeon :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:44pm

Every once in awhile, Randy Moss makes a play that just leaves you stunned. Unfortunately for Revis, I think it stunned him, too. Moss caught that football with one hand as easily as one of us mere mortals might catch a tennis ball--Wow!

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:47pm

Gradkowski is in for the Raiders and Scott Hansen says no word on if it's an injury or a coaches decision.

I'm starting to feel really foolish for predicting this team to challenge for the division.

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by Eddo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:51pm

Me, too. And I also had Carolina contending for a wildcard spot.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:33pm

Then Gradkowski lights things up.

Somewhere Chris gives himself a large pat on the back.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:56pm

Is it me, or does Sam Bradford throw some awkward looking passes?

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:02pm

The Shanahans are running that offense on what seems like smoke and mirrors. No running game (Portis 9 att, 10 yd), a lot of passing and 7 different recievers!

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:04pm

McNabb has been incredible, but I don't see how he can hold up to the punishment he's taking.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:03pm

Whoooooooooow! And Revis Island has been protected by Antonion Cromartie.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:03pm

Whoooooooooow! And Revis Island has been protected by Antonion Cromartie.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:04pm

I hate when this happens. Bad players making big plays - Cromartie with an interception. Like when DeAngelo Hall lucks into a pick-6.

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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:08pm

Sure defenders can luck into an interception. But this wasn't and example to be honest. He was in perfect place to make it.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:11pm

Fair point. Still, shouldn't Brady hold on to that, though?

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:05pm

Tom Brady throws a Hail Mary to Antonio Cromatie on a streak route.

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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:07pm

Did anyone else think Cromartie caught that ball before he reached the end zone? I didn't get a good look at the replay, but my first thought was that it was a safety.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:09pm

Me too. Forward progress, I guess. Dunno if thats the right call though - not too often this comes up...

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:10pm

If your momentum carries you into the endzone it's a touchback. Doesn't really matter where the catch occurred.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:07pm

Beautifull. Brian Schottenheimer ties Belichek into a knot.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:19pm

My apologies to Revis, he's out for the game. It wasn't just alibi-pain.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:22pm

Sanchez is playing pretty well. All early-season asterisks apply: NE DEF might really suck.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:01pm

Yeah, the Jets' offense is looking good today. Just remember, New England's first game was against a Bengals team that plays offense like football fields are made of mud.

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by BengalFaninIN :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 12:36am

Uhm.. The Bengals play in the AFC North, that's both a requirement, and often an actual fact. Those fields are oft made of mud, and three of the four teams play like they love that fact. The other team just sucks.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:22pm

I am surprised to see that Jason Snelling's big game did not come on something like 3.8 yards per carry. Of course, it was the Cardinals defense.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:31pm

Scott Hansen just said that Luke McCown is the 10th backup QB to see time in the first two weeks. This number sounds high, but I don't really have any context.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:33pm

Off the top of my head: Last week Dixon, Wallace, Vick, Hill, Clausen this week Gradkowski, Hall, Collins... sounds about right.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:47pm

I didn't mean I thought he was wrong, I mean it sounds like a high number of backup QBs to see by week 2.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:33pm

Does Bruce Gradkowski have the same defencies as Derek Anderson? This guy gave the Black Hole's offense a spark, and he constantly backing up [insert Raider's starting QB]. He's doing pretty well out there...

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:38pm

My thought exactly. He seems way better than the QB's he's been backing up. He even seems to have a little upside - he did beat the Steelers last year.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:36pm

The announcer (John Lynch?) just claimed than McNabb was "so good" in the red zone...

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:38pm

An incomplete pass stops the Jets-Pats clock at 13:37, yeah I'm lame.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:52pm

andre johnson BEAST.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:56pm

LeRon McClain could make for a good pro-wrestler; beautiful German Suplex, that was.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:57pm

Two questionable DPI calls enables the Jets to keep on grinding the clock. Actually they might get 7 in the process.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:00pm

2nd one was definitely not catchable.

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by Led :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:48pm

You're right that the second Butler PI was uncatchable. I'd have called holding on Butler (or nothing), but not PI. What I don't understand about the uncatchable rule is that even if the ball is uncatchable, there should still be either holding or illegal contact. But the choice appears to be either PI or nothing. Seems odd to me.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:58pm

It's only 2 games in, but any team that makes Sanchez look this good has a bad defense.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:03pm

3rd and 11 and McNabb throws for 8. It's like he's still in Philly. I say this as a McNabb backer.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:04pm

Dammit, Tom Bieber fail.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:07pm

shouldn't the Texans just run around for 3 seconds before kneeling?

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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:08pm

Overtime coming in Texans-Redskins game. Someone please explain OT rules to Donovan McNabb.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:09pm

beat me to it

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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:14pm

That's because I typed it up with a minute or so to go and hit "Post Comment" immediately when regulation ended.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:09pm

Gary Kubiak? What. The. F**k. Was. That?

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:11pm

Humble. Modest. Reserved. Prudent.

These are not words that will be used to describe the Jets when this game ends.

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by Eddo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:11pm

When did Tomlinson turn into a guy who celebrates first down runs? Wasn't he one of those hand-the-ball-to-the-ref type guys?

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:13pm

When the Patriots did the lights out dance.

More likely he's celebrating essentially winning the game, not just a first down.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:14pm

See: the post above.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:14pm

What happened in Washington right before OT?

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:17pm

With three seconds left, Kubiak decides to have their punter run backwards like a jackass before sliding to the ground.

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:19pm

Which was the right play. Better question, why didn't Was take a TO with 16 seconds left, forcing the Texans to punt and giving them one shot for a hail Mary.

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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:17pm

The Texans ran off the last 3 seconds by having the punter run around backwards and then go to the ground rather than risk having a punt blocked.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:17pm

Great play by Shaub on 2nd down. Two Redskins missed him though. They're really self-destructing.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:18pm

Delay of game penalty makes Kubiak look very incompetent.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:20pm

It was intentional to make more room to punt, now the fact that they still punted into the endzone...

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by Eddo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:21pm

How so? The extra five yards would help the punter (in theory, Turk just boomed one into the end zone anyway).

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:18pm

Does Dan Fouts really think a 52-yard field goal attempt on the road is a good idea? Personally, I'd go for it with a slant to Andre Johnson, but it's not like punting and playing field position is a terrible idea even with their craptastic secondary.

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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:34pm

Punting from the 35 is almost always a bad idea. The upside is extremely small compared to either going for it or kicking a field goal.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:36pm

If you don't feel confident in your kicker from that range, then why kick? Like I said, I'd have gone for it, but I'd say the punt is second in the list of options ahead of a long field goal that is likely out of Rackers' range.

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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:19pm

What are the percentages on 53 yard field goals? Rackers has the leg strength for it.

And they punt it into the endzone, bleh.

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by Mr Shush :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 7:29am

Rackers certainly did once have the leg strength for it, but I'm not certain he does any more: dude is 34 years old. Also, it seems reasonable to assume the kick was into whatever wind there was, given that the Redskins lost the toss and chose ends, and the ridiculous distance Gano got on the kick that never was.

Like others here I would have gone for it (and called my third down play with the knowledge that I was going to go for it) but I would not have kicked the field goal in preference to punting.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:22pm

I don't think I've ever heard "look how high he has to catch this ball" said about a pass from McNabb.

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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:24pm

I can't believe anyone would punt instead of going for a 53-yard FG in overtime.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:24pm

I hate when that happens.

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by Shattenjager :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:25pm

Unsurprisingly, Shanahan kicks the field goal that Kubiak was afraid to kick and then Kubiak uses Shanahan's last-second time out trick. Could any sequence in coaching history be more predictable?

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by BucNasty :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm

Icing works.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm

Gary Kubiak is Chauncey Gardiner.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 5:47am

nice

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm

Icing the kicker, it really does work. I think teams should practice hiking the ball with about 5 seconds left for game winning field-goals, so coaches don't have time to ice the kicker.

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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:37pm

Not really something you can conclude from one game (anymore than you can conclude that it doesn't work if he missed the first and made the second attempt).

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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:42pm

There was an XP article posted here recently about the analysis of icing the kicker. The analysis demonstrated that it does in fact work.

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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:49pm

I saw the XP. The full article hadn't actually been published yet, and there are some potential snags with the methodology that weren't addressed in the write-up.

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by ghinterm :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:44pm

I'd imagine a kick of that distance is approximately 50% or less anyway. So it's more likely that the greater factor for the miss, in my opinion, is due to the distance of the kick.

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm

Graham Gano misses the 52-yard field goal after Kubiak ices him. The student learns from the teacher...

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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:27pm

Tryouts for kickers in Dallas and Washington on tap this week.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:30pm

3rd and 4 or 4th and 1? I'd take 3rd and 4.

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by Shattenjager :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:31pm

Without looking up the numbers, that's my inclination too.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:32pm

That's what Houston takes. I'd much rather have two tries to go 4 yards than 1 try for 1.

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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:33pm

Just about everyone not named "Dan Fouts" agrees with you.

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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:38pm

Rackers would have missed it if he was iced. Just saying.

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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:46pm

Well, at least McNabb doesn't become the first guy in modern history with 2 ties.

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by dmb :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:04pm
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:03pm

Why don't the Jones' parents or the Ayanbedejos' parents get interviewed?

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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:35pm

Probably because their dad wasn't a Hall-of-Fame player.

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by Shattenjager :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:39pm

Neither was the Mannings'.

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by mvhuber :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:30pm

You have to give the Jets some credit for backing up their big talk. Pats are back to the drawing board on defense, although, I'm not sure you can hide those two young corners.

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by Sidewards :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:40pm

Incredibly nice opening drive from the Elder Manning.

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by batbatt :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:40pm

what is this crazy 'run' offense I'm seeing from the Colts?

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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 9:47pm

Either Ahmad Bradshaw completely abdicated his responsibility to help pick up Mathis, or Kareem McKenzie is being asked to deal with Mathis one-on-one. Bad scene either way.

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by Nathan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 10:30pm

Dwight Freeney is abusing Diehl.

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by Nathan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 10:33pm

Like on every snap. I'm watching him on every passing play beat him inside, outside and straight on. .

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by Alexander :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 10:40pm

This game is just abusive, in almost every respect of the word.

I think Bill Simmons would call it a "F-You game."

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by skeptic1 (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:10pm

please pull manning senior now; no sense risking an injury

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by andrew :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:24pm

Some fantasy owners just got a gift victory there.

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by FireOmarTomlin :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 8:48am

what crap NBC cut away from showing the criminal coverup in Indy after Jacobs assaulted a fan with his helmet. Can you imagine the lawsuit if some kid in the front row had gotten busted in the face with that helmet ? And tough guy security takes the helmet away from a consoling father to boot? NFL got lucky on this one.

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by The Human Spider :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 8:47pm

San Fransisco: Worst. Snap. Ever.

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by Marko :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 9:09pm

Mike Singletary: "We will not try to snap the ball way over the quarterback's head, resulting in a safety. We WILL snap the ball way over the quarterback's head, resulting in a safety."

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by Nathan :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 9:37pm

Watching Anthony Davis this game. Just started on the scoring drive. He looked very good. Especially on the wr screen.

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by Nathan :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 10:55pm

I just realized in that wranglers commercial it appears that favre gets picked trying to throw a post.

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by Rocco :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 11:38pm

I'm a little surprised Payton took the FG there up 5. If he went for it, the worst-case scenario is Alex Smith has to go 98 yards in a little over 2 minutes with no timeouts.

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by Andrew Potter :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 11:51pm

Outstanding drive by San Francisco to tie it up. 2pt conversion good on review, clear as day. Smith looked the genuine article on that drive, smart and instinctive. Playcall for the touchdown was inspired.

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by tuluse :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:08am

Felt like the 49ers out-played the Saints, but had bad luck.

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by SteveNC (not verified) :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:50am

On that last play, did the Saints let the 49ers score to tie it up with over a minute left so they would have time for another score of their own?

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by Nathan :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:29am

Definitely outplayed. Turnovers. Tipped int, bad fumble in the RZ. Should have won this one.

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by Nathan :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:30am

So Bush... MCL? ACL? Looked like his knee got a pretty nasty twist.

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