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21 Sep 2010, 12:50am by
SteveNC
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:56am
Yarrr! Happy talk like a pirate day. Let's make those QBs walk the plank.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:35pm
Do this mean that th' Buccaneers do have a better chance ter open th' season 2-0, ahrrr?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:37pm
Yarr Matey. And the Raaiiiderrs might actually win a game this season.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Nathan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:39pm
FO has to be the only all-football site on the web where commenters actually know about Talk Like A Pirate day.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:59pm
Joe Buck what the fark was that about ?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by lloyd :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 12:59pm
Color me shocked that Buck and Aikman are doing a Cowboys game. I'll be keeping my TV on CBS, thanks.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:03pm
Steelers rape the Titans on end around kickoff return to open the game.
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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 5:18am
Ha! Thousands of words in the English language...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:04pm
Did anybody else see that? The Steelers just ran a reverse on the opening kick-off, and ran it in for a TD.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:04pm
It wasn't even a true reverse- Antonio Brown acted like he was a blocker and Moore handed the ball off to him.
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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:08pm
Moore was running left, and handed the ball to Brown, who was running right. The ball reversed direction, thus it was a reverse.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:15pm
announcer called it an endarrrrrrrrghround.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:04pm
Steelers Special Teams come through yet again, and for once I don't mean that ironically.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Sidewards :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:07pm
I'm fairly certain that this game has made the 2010 Steelers Special Teams cumulatively better than the 2009 Steelers Special Teams.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Yaxley :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:10pm
Dennis Dixon is the only person on earth who didn't see that sack coming. Ouch.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:16pm
I have to disagree with Joe Buck. Cutler's not going to have a long day, because quite frankly he's not going to live long enough to have a long day if this keeps up.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:18pm
A buddy of mine watching the game is pretty sure Cutler's been hit on every passing play.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:24pm
That's the Steelers special teams we know and love.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:27pm
I'm not a fan of the Eagles, and I'm not a fan of the Lions. But I am a fan of entertaining quarterback controversies...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:30pm
Vince with a beautiful throw to Troy Polamalu on the post route.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:37pm
Bills had a defensive end covering Finley of the Packers. That's an odd choice.......
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dr. Mooch :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 7:29am
The Bills' coaches started taking LSD over the summer and have their dose up to the point now where they think Chris Kelsay is a an OLB suited for 3-4 play. It's really tough to watch for those of us who aren't on drugs.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:42pm
Rodgers talks McCarthy into a challenge that did not succeed and then runs for the first down on 3rd and 10. So it's all square
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:44pm
Packers announcer just referred to "Brian Jackson".
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:45pm
If the Bills cannot figure out to block Clay Mathews Jr. this game will get out of hand quickly.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Zilla (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:47pm
I was very aggravated at first because they way it turned out on my cable is that CBS is blacked out so I'm stuck with FOX, and a Bears/Cowboys game that I thought was going to be boring, but it's probably the best game going on right now.
Bears offensive line...needs improvement. Though when the Cowboys start assuming that they will sack Cutler every play then they end up letting 10 yard completions become 50 yard touchdowns.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:48pm
That was an insanely awesome Vontae Davis pick to watch. It was like a four-person tip drill while lying on the ground at the one-yard line!
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 1:59pm
Falcons make Hightower look like Mendenhall. Ryan locked on White again today.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:04pm
Ryan starting to spread the ball around; Snelling looking good as receiver out of backfield after Norwood was injured on opening kickoff.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by David Jones (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:08pm
There's the Seneca Wallace I remember from his Seattle days...great looking pick-six.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by David Jones (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:11pm
And then of course he repays my comment by throwing a TD bomb to Cribbs...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:16pm
85td from Chris Johnson is called back on a holding. The steelers are great containing him while managing Vince Young throwing 2 picks...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:18pm
Batch is in by the way, Dixon is out with a knee injury. No backups left and Randle El could be the last resort if Batch goes out.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:19pm
I'm not sure I can survive two more ugly Steelers games before BRoeth comes back.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:19pm
Arizona is a regular penalty factory and Snelling is looking very good. Turner has been out in the 2nd quarter, now on his way to locker room.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:22pm
Groin injury for Turner.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Lvess :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:28pm
Did Jamal Charles steal Todd Haley's lunch money or something?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:38pm
Jason Whitlock thinks Haley and Pioli don't want to play him because he was a Herm/Peterson pick. It's no crazier than Mike Florio saying the Steelers didn't want Dixon to play because they wanted to keep his value down.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:29pm
Anyone else having trouble NFL AudioPass? My Sirius failed and now this keeps failing.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by bigtencrazy (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:31pm
This may seem harsh, and I know the Bills have a solid secondary, but Rodgers has had time to throw and missed some throws. For a guy where accuracy is his schtick this is a game and a half now where the ball isn't going where it needs to go a fair amount of the time.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Flounder :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:19pm
He was a little off in the 2nd quarter, but he did complete 66% for the game. Not his greatest game ever, but it was a good, solid effort. Bulaga replacing Clifton helped. Sadly, I think Chad has hit the wall.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:48pm
Something wrong with C Johnson, shook and shaked his head before the snap and in the huddle. Still gave him the ball... See how this goes.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:51pm
Any other Red Zone viewers finding this week to be even sloppier than Week 1 so far?
I'm seeing an awful lot of bad, bad football.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:55pm
If you mean fumbles, yes, but that's good defense. Defenses seem to be better early on in the season while offenses get their timing down.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:58pm
There's a lot more than fumbles. Terrible decisions. Bad play calling. Bad tackling. Wildly inaccurate passes. Dumb penalties. I expect that stuff early in the year, of course, especially by offenses. But it seems worse this week than last.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by ChaosOnion (not verified) :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 8:45am
It is like every quarter back is Tony Romo. (late to the party...)
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:53pm
Derek Anderson should be banned from the starting quarterback position.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by morganja :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:54pm
Walt Coleman's crew is an unbelievably bad officiating crew. Their level of incompetence is just staggering. Why is nothing ever done about these clowns?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:55pm
What now?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 2:55pm
Derek Anderson does what Derek does, overthrow to William Moore. Finnernan on the fade to the corner for 6. Amazing that he's still playing.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:14pm
Kerry Collins is warming up for the Titans.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:14pm
Good week for ads..."ve are here.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:17pm
Steelers O Lineman dropping like flies...........
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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:25pm
They've had 3 people at LT now? Scott, Adams and Hills.
They're lucky if they pull this one off. One play can make this exiting but C Johnson looks exhausted and Vince Young isn't good either.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:22pm
Cardinals falling apart. Start at 2 after retun man steps on goal line when deciding to down the kickoff.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:26pm
I'd like to get off the Matt Moore bandwagon, please.
Guess I'm not right every time...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:33pm
I dropped him off my fantasy football team already for Mike Vick. Then someone offered me Jospeph Addai for him. Good deal. I think.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:28pm
Derek Anderson takes shot to ribs by Babineaux, stays in. Who is the AZ QB backup?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:31pm
Wouldn't it be Matt Leinhart?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:34pm
Matt Leinart is on the Texans nowadays.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:32pm
Some guy and Max Hall.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:30pm
I just need to bitch about "Life as we Know It" for a moment. Honestly, what horrible parents, in the event of their death, leave their child to two people who don't even like each other? However, seeing Katherine Heigel smeared with shit almost makes it worth it.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:35pm
Sorry, on what football team is this?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:31pm
OK... can anyone name a game with worse overall QB play in good weather than the Pit-Ten game today?
I know they both have good defenses, but wow. This makes Flacco v Sanchez last week look like Manning v Brady.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by morganja :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:33pm
Hmmm. I sense a new irrational quarterback debate coming on. Who really is the worst quarterback?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Calig23 :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:36pm
Flacco and Palmer's display today has been pretty dreadful. At one point, I think Flacco was averaging 1.4 yards per attempt.
Last year's Browns-Bills 6-3 travesty. With God-knows-who starting at quarterback (either Edwards or Fitzpatrick) for the Bills, and Derek Anderson (who should be banned from starting at quarterback) starting for the Browns. Bills quarterbacks were bad, and Anderson kindly went 2-for-13 with thirty-something yards in that game.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:14pm
Good examples, all.
Collins is making a bid to remove this game from consideration.
(In response to a different post, I disagree with the assessments of Dixon and Batch. Neither was as good as you say. Though I think they were each sort of neutered by the play calling.)
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:40pm
Well Dixon wasn't half bad, and Young was pretty bad. Then Dixon got injured and was replaced by Batch who was plain. Young was pulled for Collins who is old and... not so good.
This game was done when the Steelers made it 13-3 and hit C Johnson in the head. The can not make a comeback even if they have 20 more quarters to play.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:32pm
The Steelers defense is frighteningly good so far this year. I'm not sure they can sustain it if the offense doesn't raise their game to at least mediocre, but right now they're putting on a show.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:49pm
Agreed. They shut things down easily and have depth too. Hampton goes out and Hoke and Hood fill in easily. Farrior goes out and good ol' Larry Foote comes in. And some others.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:40pm
I didn't expect Mike Vick to look this good. And just by way of heaping on the irony, the announcers say Vick credits his improvement to... Donovan McNabb!
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:49pm
And 3rd and 1, then again on 4th and 1, the Lions go to power formation with Ndamukong Suh in at fullback. Result: 2 runs up the middle (or into the middle, as the case may be) for -1 yards.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:51pm
Did somebody forget to tell Dallas there's a game this week?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:54pm
Cowboys... bwahahahahahaha.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:54pm
Kerry Rhodes tossed for touching a ref
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by DEW (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:55pm
A Miami win, and four turnovers by Brett Favre in Minnesota. That combination is a better high than any drug!
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:00pm
Favre would prefer Vicodin, I bet.
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by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:56pm
Jason Snelling scores again
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 3:59pm
Wonder if TMQ will make note of the hidden play in Detroit. Up ten, a Lion DB dropped a gimme INT on a terrible throw by Vick (he threw two in a row in that sequence, but seems rock solid otherwise). Instead of up ten with the ball, they gave up two quick scores and haven't had any hope since then.
It's the Lions, so up ten with the ball isn't any kind of guarantee, of course, especially in the first half. But that really turned things around for the Eagles.
(Williams and Brown tried to one up him in Minnesota, but Viking QB wouldn't stand for it.)
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:30pm
Lions just recovered an onside kick at 35-32. Incredible.
Maybe that dropped INT matters after all.
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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:34pm
Or not. They're still the Lions.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:00pm
ATTENTION PIGS:
THE BUCCANEERS ARE 2-0 AND THE VIKINGS ARE 0-2 TO START THE SEASON. TAKE-OFF WILL BEGIN AT 1600 HOURS.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:05pm
SICK SICK play by Polamalu.
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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Just another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:06pm
Max Hall makes his debut in Garbage time, picked on an underthrow on a go route.
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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:09pm
And just when I was wondering why Polamalu is still in the game, he makes an awesome goal line play.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:10pm
Can you do an onside kick like that?!
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:10pm
Farking Will Allen idiot!
DIE!
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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:14pm
Polamalu on the wrong place as always when they go deep.
Polamalu is one of the best safeties in the game with someone behind him, but in situations like this... he's not that good. Hope he proves me wrong.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:12pm
I'd like to say I didn't see this coming.
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by South Bay Bengal (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:18pm
WHO DEY! Let's see if this gets the Bengals to the top 10 in DVOA rankings. Likely their inability to actually get in the end-zone will leave them in the middle of the pack...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:20pm
Who's watching the NE - NYJ game?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:30pm
I am.
delay of game, kicking team. This denies a NE FG, and moves the ball 5 yards back => missed FG.
Sanchize picked on first pass. Under review.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:34pm
I know that's such a hard play. Your hands need to be bigger than the plain of the ball.
So you got to get it exactly there or they'll rule it incomplete.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:30pm
I am. Gostkowski missed a field goal, and Sanchize answers back by throwing an interception.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:33pm
And the interception gets called back.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:36pm
A three and out on the first drive. AKA best case scenario, Jets.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:43pm
Welker gets creamed 15 yards down field - defenseless reciever is called. Welker i shaken up, but will return soon.
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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:57pm
Welker comes out for 6-8 plays. On the sidelines they show him getting the concussion workup. Pats have goal-to-go, Welker comes back, touchdown Welker. Welker celebrates by head-butting several teammates.
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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:09pm
eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm. You can over react on the concussion thing, the head butting thing is nothing. My dad said "you got to get aroung the defenders, but then you got to get away from you team mates too when they celebrate."
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:46pm
The Bear's secondary doesn't seem great, but that front 7 is amazing so far.
I think I'd like to see a little more man coverage on 3rd down instead of wide open holes 15 yards downfield by the sidelines.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 4:53pm
Wes Welker is a machine.
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by Dave :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:09pm
One play after they show a graphic about Garrard and Rivers having the two longest active streaks of games without 3+ picks, Garrard throws his first pick of the first half.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:09pm
Braylon Edwards with a jump-ball touchdown. He celebrates by being called for taunting.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:14pm
That shouldn't overshadow the fact that it was a fie drive by the Jets. 77 yards, 12 plays and around 7 minutes. Dink-and-dunk mostly, but by Jets standards it is huge.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:12pm
In related news, Mark Sanchez threw a touchdown pass that was caught by Braylon Edwards. Surprises all around...
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:15pm
It looked like the Bronco's running back just threw the ball forward there. Broncos extremely lucky it just goes out of bounds.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:15pm
So far, Antonio Cromartie is having as much trouble covering Wes Welker as he does remembering his [nine] kids' names.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:16pm
double post
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:16pm
Vick was mediocre today. Yeah he made some nice moves to evade some sacks and he put up some yards, but he didn't hit receivers in stride, didn't put the ball where only his guys could catch it... in other words same old Vick.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:21pm
Uh... You know Vick was the one in the Eagles uniform, right?
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:22pm
I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is that Michael Vick looked like the Michael Vick of old. Which is to say he made some dazzling plays but didn't make the plays real QBs make.
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by Pat Swinnegan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:43pm
I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is that Michael Vick looked like the Michael Vick of old.
I thought your point was that Vick "made some nice moves to evade some sacks and he put up some yards, but he didn't hit receivers in stride, didn't put the ball where only his guys could catch it." He did make some good moves to avoid the pressure, but if that 45 yard touchdown to DeSean Jackson wasn't hitting his receiver in stride, what is? He also made some throws underneath where he really had to thread it in there.
I guess I didn't see his whole game last week, but I wouldn't have thought he had this kind of performance in him. Certainly from what I did see last week, he looked like the run-first Vick of old. Not so much against the Lions.
Anyway, we probably won't see him out there again for a long time. The question now is... Can the Eagles win a few with Kolb?
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by dmb :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:21pm
I didn't watch Vick today, but when I watched him last week, I came away thinking that he looked like the exact same player he was a few years ago.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:20pm
Sam Bradford is 9/11-119-1/0. Pretty good - or the Raiders being worse than i thought.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by dmb :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:23pm
McNabb is 12/16 for 239 yards; he's had long throws to Joey Galloway, Chris Cooley, and Fred Davis.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:26pm
Matt Leinart's got to be thinking "I lost my job to this guy?". Anderson's always been extremely inaccurate and interception-prone, even in college and even in his pro bowl year. I'm not sure why the Cards thought they were going to get something different.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:30pm
So is the QB-needy teams in the league. Leinart can't possibly get more than clipboard duty again.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:33pm
Maybe they didn't expect anything different. Maybe Leinart is even worse.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:29pm
revis island scorched.
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Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.
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Re: Week 2 Open Discussion Thread
by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:30pm
Sweet one-handed TD grab by Moss. The play was set up by an amazing catch and run by the rookie TE Hernendez, though.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:30pm
Randy Moss has established real estate on "Revis Island", touchdown Patriots. Beatiful one-handed catch.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:32pm
Moss beats Revis, and makes the best cathch I've ever seen. That is utterly insane. It's the Dallas Clark pizza-catch, only with complete control.
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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:42pm
I've never seen another receiver just reach out and casually palm the ball out of the air like Moss can. Most receivers who catch the ball with one hand still have to pull it in quickly and pin it against their bodies to avoid dropping it, but not Moss.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:47pm
Jerry Rice and Chris Carter would like to have a word with you. I'll assume that you didn't see Fred Biletnikoff play.
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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:53pm
You assume correctly. Biletnikoff was well before my time. I missed most of Rice's and Carter's careers too--I was born in 1988, by which point both Rice and Carter were already in the NFL.
At any rate, let's just agree that it was a ridiculous catch, and that few if any other receivers in the league right now could have made it.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:52pm
Yep - a lot of players will catch that pass. Noone will catch it like that. He caught it like you would catch a baseball with a mit.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:35pm
Revis got beat so hard he hurt himself.
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by Flounder :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:35pm
Love the "oh my hamstring hurts, watch how I grabbed at it while Moss is catching a TD pass"
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by Rhys :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:40pm
Revis Island was torched so bad there that it's still on fire.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:40pm
Yeah it seemed like "Dang, I got owned.. Quick, look hurt!"
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by Flounder :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:47pm
Yeah. I'm not contending that he's not hurt at all, but it sure looked like Revis wanted to make sure everyone remembered.
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by Rhys :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:00pm
Revis hasn't come out for the first Jets defensive drive of the second half, it looks like he wasn't faking. Jets are saying Revis is questionable to come back in.
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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:41pm
Revis Island just got 2 times bigger. Not because he allowed a TD, but because Moss lined up in the middle. Revis uses the sideline, in the middle he can't and that's what the Patriots found out. I wonder how many more WRs can beat Revis on this island.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:43pm
Is it too early to say that Favre is looking old?
If he doesn't start playing like a probowler soon, the Vikings are going to be in serious trouble.
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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:45pm
Is it 2006? Then no, it is not too early.
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by CuseFanInSoCal :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:41pm
Since Favre in a Evil Purple uniform is just wrong, I'm completely in favor of the Vikings being in serious trouble (and wish Favre the best of luck in any non-Vikings-related future activities).
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by young curmudgeon :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:44pm
Every once in awhile, Randy Moss makes a play that just leaves you stunned. Unfortunately for Revis, I think it stunned him, too. Moss caught that football with one hand as easily as one of us mere mortals might catch a tennis ball--Wow!
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:47pm
Gradkowski is in for the Raiders and Scott Hansen says no word on if it's an injury or a coaches decision.
I'm starting to feel really foolish for predicting this team to challenge for the division.
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by Eddo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:51pm
Me, too. And I also had Carolina contending for a wildcard spot.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:33pm
Then Gradkowski lights things up.
Somewhere Chris gives himself a large pat on the back.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 5:56pm
Is it me, or does Sam Bradford throw some awkward looking passes?
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:02pm
The Shanahans are running that offense on what seems like smoke and mirrors. No running game (Portis 9 att, 10 yd), a lot of passing and 7 different recievers!
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:04pm
McNabb has been incredible, but I don't see how he can hold up to the punishment he's taking.
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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:03pm
Whoooooooooow! And Revis Island has been protected by Antonion Cromartie.
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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:03pm
Whoooooooooow! And Revis Island has been protected by Antonion Cromartie.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:04pm
I hate when this happens. Bad players making big plays - Cromartie with an interception. Like when DeAngelo Hall lucks into a pick-6.
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by Theo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:08pm
Sure defenders can luck into an interception. But this wasn't and example to be honest. He was in perfect place to make it.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:11pm
Fair point. Still, shouldn't Brady hold on to that, though?
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:05pm
Tom Brady throws a Hail Mary to Antonio Cromatie on a streak route.
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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:07pm
Did anyone else think Cromartie caught that ball before he reached the end zone? I didn't get a good look at the replay, but my first thought was that it was a safety.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:09pm
Me too. Forward progress, I guess. Dunno if thats the right call though - not too often this comes up...
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:10pm
If your momentum carries you into the endzone it's a touchback. Doesn't really matter where the catch occurred.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:07pm
Beautifull. Brian Schottenheimer ties Belichek into a knot.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:19pm
My apologies to Revis, he's out for the game. It wasn't just alibi-pain.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:22pm
Sanchez is playing pretty well. All early-season asterisks apply: NE DEF might really suck.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:01pm
Yeah, the Jets' offense is looking good today. Just remember, New England's first game was against a Bengals team that plays offense like football fields are made of mud.
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by BengalFaninIN :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 12:36am
Uhm.. The Bengals play in the AFC North, that's both a requirement, and often an actual fact. Those fields are oft made of mud, and three of the four teams play like they love that fact. The other team just sucks.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:22pm
I am surprised to see that Jason Snelling's big game did not come on something like 3.8 yards per carry. Of course, it was the Cardinals defense.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:31pm
Scott Hansen just said that Luke McCown is the 10th backup QB to see time in the first two weeks. This number sounds high, but I don't really have any context.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:33pm
Off the top of my head: Last week Dixon, Wallace, Vick, Hill, Clausen this week Gradkowski, Hall, Collins... sounds about right.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:47pm
I didn't mean I thought he was wrong, I mean it sounds like a high number of backup QBs to see by week 2.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:33pm
Does Bruce Gradkowski have the same defencies as Derek Anderson? This guy gave the Black Hole's offense a spark, and he constantly backing up [insert Raider's starting QB]. He's doing pretty well out there...
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:38pm
My thought exactly. He seems way better than the QB's he's been backing up. He even seems to have a little upside - he did beat the Steelers last year.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:36pm
The announcer (John Lynch?) just claimed than McNabb was "so good" in the red zone...
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:38pm
An incomplete pass stops the Jets-Pats clock at 13:37, yeah I'm lame.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:52pm
andre johnson BEAST.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:56pm
LeRon McClain could make for a good pro-wrestler; beautiful German Suplex, that was.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:57pm
Two questionable DPI calls enables the Jets to keep on grinding the clock. Actually they might get 7 in the process.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:00pm
2nd one was definitely not catchable.
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by Led :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:48pm
You're right that the second Butler PI was uncatchable. I'd have called holding on Butler (or nothing), but not PI. What I don't understand about the uncatchable rule is that even if the ball is uncatchable, there should still be either holding or illegal contact. But the choice appears to be either PI or nothing. Seems odd to me.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 6:58pm
It's only 2 games in, but any team that makes Sanchez look this good has a bad defense.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:03pm
3rd and 11 and McNabb throws for 8. It's like he's still in Philly. I say this as a McNabb backer.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:04pm
Dammit, Tom Bieber fail.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:07pm
shouldn't the Texans just run around for 3 seconds before kneeling?
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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:08pm
Overtime coming in Texans-Redskins game. Someone please explain OT rules to Donovan McNabb.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:09pm
beat me to it
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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:14pm
That's because I typed it up with a minute or so to go and hit "Post Comment" immediately when regulation ended.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:09pm
Gary Kubiak? What. The. F**k. Was. That?
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:11pm
Humble. Modest. Reserved. Prudent.
These are not words that will be used to describe the Jets when this game ends.
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by Eddo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:11pm
When did Tomlinson turn into a guy who celebrates first down runs? Wasn't he one of those hand-the-ball-to-the-ref type guys?
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:13pm
When the Patriots did the lights out dance.
More likely he's celebrating essentially winning the game, not just a first down.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:14pm
See: the post above.
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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:14pm
What happened in Washington right before OT?
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:17pm
With three seconds left, Kubiak decides to have their punter run backwards like a jackass before sliding to the ground.
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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:19pm
Which was the right play. Better question, why didn't Was take a TO with 16 seconds left, forcing the Texans to punt and giving them one shot for a hail Mary.
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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:17pm
The Texans ran off the last 3 seconds by having the punter run around backwards and then go to the ground rather than risk having a punt blocked.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:17pm
Great play by Shaub on 2nd down. Two Redskins missed him though. They're really self-destructing.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:18pm
Delay of game penalty makes Kubiak look very incompetent.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:20pm
It was intentional to make more room to punt, now the fact that they still punted into the endzone...
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by Eddo :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:21pm
How so? The extra five yards would help the punter (in theory, Turk just boomed one into the end zone anyway).
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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:18pm
Does Dan Fouts really think a 52-yard field goal attempt on the road is a good idea? Personally, I'd go for it with a slant to Andre Johnson, but it's not like punting and playing field position is a terrible idea even with their craptastic secondary.
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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:34pm
Punting from the 35 is almost always a bad idea. The upside is extremely small compared to either going for it or kicking a field goal.
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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:36pm
If you don't feel confident in your kicker from that range, then why kick? Like I said, I'd have gone for it, but I'd say the punt is second in the list of options ahead of a long field goal that is likely out of Rackers' range.
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by tuluse :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:19pm
What are the percentages on 53 yard field goals? Rackers has the leg strength for it.
And they punt it into the endzone, bleh.
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by Mr Shush :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 7:29am
Rackers certainly did once have the leg strength for it, but I'm not certain he does any more: dude is 34 years old. Also, it seems reasonable to assume the kick was into whatever wind there was, given that the Redskins lost the toss and chose ends, and the ridiculous distance Gano got on the kick that never was.
Like others here I would have gone for it (and called my third down play with the knowledge that I was going to go for it) but I would not have kicked the field goal in preference to punting.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:22pm
I don't think I've ever heard "look how high he has to catch this ball" said about a pass from McNabb.
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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:24pm
I can't believe anyone would punt instead of going for a 53-yard FG in overtime.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:24pm
I hate when that happens.
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by Shattenjager :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:25pm
Unsurprisingly, Shanahan kicks the field goal that Kubiak was afraid to kick and then Kubiak uses Shanahan's last-second time out trick. Could any sequence in coaching history be more predictable?
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by BucNasty :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm
Icing works.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm
Gary Kubiak is Chauncey Gardiner.
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by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 5:47am
nice
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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm
Icing the kicker, it really does work. I think teams should practice hiking the ball with about 5 seconds left for game winning field-goals, so coaches don't have time to ice the kicker.
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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:37pm
Not really something you can conclude from one game (anymore than you can conclude that it doesn't work if he missed the first and made the second attempt).
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by B :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:42pm
There was an XP article posted here recently about the analysis of icing the kicker. The analysis demonstrated that it does in fact work.
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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:49pm
I saw the XP. The full article hadn't actually been published yet, and there are some potential snags with the methodology that weren't addressed in the write-up.
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by ghinterm :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:44pm
I'd imagine a kick of that distance is approximately 50% or less anyway. So it's more likely that the greater factor for the miss, in my opinion, is due to the distance of the kick.
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:26pm
Graham Gano misses the 52-yard field goal after Kubiak ices him. The student learns from the teacher...
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by Marko :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:27pm
Tryouts for kickers in Dallas and Washington on tap this week.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:30pm
3rd and 4 or 4th and 1? I'd take 3rd and 4.
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by Shattenjager :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:31pm
Without looking up the numbers, that's my inclination too.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:32pm
That's what Houston takes. I'd much rather have two tries to go 4 yards than 1 try for 1.
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by Rocco :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:33pm
Just about everyone not named "Dan Fouts" agrees with you.
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by Southern Philly :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:38pm
Rackers would have missed it if he was iced. Just saying.
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by AlanSP :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 7:46pm
Well, at least McNabb doesn't become the first guy in modern history with 2 ties.
Why don't the Jones' parents or the Ayanbedejos' parents get interviewed?
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by The Human Spider :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:35pm
Probably because their dad wasn't a Hall-of-Fame player.
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by Shattenjager :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:39pm
Neither was the Mannings'.
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by mvhuber :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:30pm
You have to give the Jets some credit for backing up their big talk. Pats are back to the drawing board on defense, although, I'm not sure you can hide those two young corners.
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by Sidewards :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:40pm
Incredibly nice opening drive from the Elder Manning.
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by batbatt :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 8:40pm
what is this crazy 'run' offense I'm seeing from the Colts?
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by Dunbar :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 9:47pm
Either Ahmad Bradshaw completely abdicated his responsibility to help pick up Mathis, or Kareem McKenzie is being asked to deal with Mathis one-on-one. Bad scene either way.
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by Nathan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 10:30pm
Dwight Freeney is abusing Diehl.
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by Nathan :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 10:33pm
Like on every snap. I'm watching him on every passing play beat him inside, outside and straight on. .
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by Alexander :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 10:40pm
This game is just abusive, in almost every respect of the word.
I think Bill Simmons would call it a "F-You game."
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by skeptic1 (not verified) :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:10pm
please pull manning senior now; no sense risking an injury
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by andrew :: Sun, 09/19/2010 - 11:24pm
Some fantasy owners just got a gift victory there.
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by FireOmarTomlin :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 8:48am
what crap NBC cut away from showing the criminal coverup in Indy after Jacobs assaulted a fan with his helmet. Can you imagine the lawsuit if some kid in the front row had gotten busted in the face with that helmet ? And tough guy security takes the helmet away from a consoling father to boot? NFL got lucky on this one.
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by The Human Spider :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 8:47pm
San Fransisco: Worst. Snap. Ever.
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by Marko :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 9:09pm
Mike Singletary: "We will not try to snap the ball way over the quarterback's head, resulting in a safety. We WILL snap the ball way over the quarterback's head, resulting in a safety."
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by Nathan :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 9:37pm
Watching Anthony Davis this game. Just started on the scoring drive. He looked very good. Especially on the wr screen.
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by Nathan :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 10:55pm
I just realized in that wranglers commercial it appears that favre gets picked trying to throw a post.
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by Rocco :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 11:38pm
I'm a little surprised Payton took the FG there up 5. If he went for it, the worst-case scenario is Alex Smith has to go 98 yards in a little over 2 minutes with no timeouts.
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by Big-Hairy-Andy :: Mon, 09/20/2010 - 11:51pm
Outstanding drive by San Francisco to tie it up. 2pt conversion good on review, clear as day. Smith looked the genuine article on that drive, smart and instinctive. Playcall for the touchdown was inspired.
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by tuluse :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:08am
Felt like the 49ers out-played the Saints, but had bad luck.
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by SteveNC (not verified) :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:50am
On that last play, did the Saints let the 49ers score to tie it up with over a minute left so they would have time for another score of their own?
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by Nathan :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:29am
Definitely outplayed. Turnovers. Tipped int, bad fumble in the RZ. Should have won this one.
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by Nathan :: Tue, 09/21/2010 - 12:30am
So Bush... MCL? ACL? Looked like his knee got a pretty nasty twist.
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Yarrr! Happy talk like a pirate day. Let's make those QBs walk the plank.
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Do this mean that th' Buccaneers do have a better chance ter open th' season 2-0, ahrrr?
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Yarr Matey. And the Raaiiiderrs might actually win a game this season.
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FO has to be the only all-football site on the web where commenters actually know about Talk Like A Pirate day.
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Joe Buck what the fark was that about ?
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Color me shocked that Buck and Aikman are doing a Cowboys game. I'll be keeping my TV on CBS, thanks.
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Steelers rape the Titans on end around kickoff return to open the game.
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Ha! Thousands of words in the English language...
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Did anybody else see that? The Steelers just ran a reverse on the opening kick-off, and ran it in for a TD.
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It wasn't even a true reverse- Antonio Brown acted like he was a blocker and Moore handed the ball off to him.
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Moore was running left, and handed the ball to Brown, who was running right. The ball reversed direction, thus it was a reverse.
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announcer called it an endarrrrrrrrghround.
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Steelers Special Teams come through yet again, and for once I don't mean that ironically.
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I'm fairly certain that this game has made the 2010 Steelers Special Teams cumulatively better than the 2009 Steelers Special Teams.
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Dennis Dixon is the only person on earth who didn't see that sack coming. Ouch.
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I have to disagree with Joe Buck. Cutler's not going to have a long day, because quite frankly he's not going to live long enough to have a long day if this keeps up.
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A buddy of mine watching the game is pretty sure Cutler's been hit on every passing play.
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That's the Steelers special teams we know and love.
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I'm not a fan of the Eagles, and I'm not a fan of the Lions. But I am a fan of entertaining quarterback controversies...
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Vince with a beautiful throw to Troy Polamalu on the post route.
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Bills had a defensive end covering Finley of the Packers. That's an odd choice.......
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The Bills' coaches started taking LSD over the summer and have their dose up to the point now where they think Chris Kelsay is a an OLB suited for 3-4 play. It's really tough to watch for those of us who aren't on drugs.
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Rodgers talks McCarthy into a challenge that did not succeed and then runs for the first down on 3rd and 10. So it's all square
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Packers announcer just referred to "Brian Jackson".
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If the Bills cannot figure out to block Clay Mathews Jr. this game will get out of hand quickly.
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I was very aggravated at first because they way it turned out on my cable is that CBS is blacked out so I'm stuck with FOX, and a Bears/Cowboys game that I thought was going to be boring, but it's probably the best game going on right now.
Bears offensive line...needs improvement. Though when the Cowboys start assuming that they will sack Cutler every play then they end up letting 10 yard completions become 50 yard touchdowns.
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That was an insanely awesome Vontae Davis pick to watch. It was like a four-person tip drill while lying on the ground at the one-yard line!
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Falcons make Hightower look like Mendenhall. Ryan locked on White again today.
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Ryan starting to spread the ball around; Snelling looking good as receiver out of backfield after Norwood was injured on opening kickoff.
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There's the Seneca Wallace I remember from his Seattle days...great looking pick-six.
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And then of course he repays my comment by throwing a TD bomb to Cribbs...
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85td from Chris Johnson is called back on a holding. The steelers are great containing him while managing Vince Young throwing 2 picks...
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Batch is in by the way, Dixon is out with a knee injury. No backups left and Randle El could be the last resort if Batch goes out.
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I'm not sure I can survive two more ugly Steelers games before BRoeth comes back.
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Arizona is a regular penalty factory and Snelling is looking very good. Turner has been out in the 2nd quarter, now on his way to locker room.
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Groin injury for Turner.
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Did Jamal Charles steal Todd Haley's lunch money or something?
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Jason Whitlock thinks Haley and Pioli don't want to play him because he was a Herm/Peterson pick. It's no crazier than Mike Florio saying the Steelers didn't want Dixon to play because they wanted to keep his value down.
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Anyone else having trouble NFL AudioPass? My Sirius failed and now this keeps failing.
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This may seem harsh, and I know the Bills have a solid secondary, but Rodgers has had time to throw and missed some throws. For a guy where accuracy is his schtick this is a game and a half now where the ball isn't going where it needs to go a fair amount of the time.
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He was a little off in the 2nd quarter, but he did complete 66% for the game. Not his greatest game ever, but it was a good, solid effort. Bulaga replacing Clifton helped. Sadly, I think Chad has hit the wall.
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Something wrong with C Johnson, shook and shaked his head before the snap and in the huddle. Still gave him the ball... See how this goes.
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Any other Red Zone viewers finding this week to be even sloppier than Week 1 so far?
I'm seeing an awful lot of bad, bad football.
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If you mean fumbles, yes, but that's good defense. Defenses seem to be better early on in the season while offenses get their timing down.
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There's a lot more than fumbles. Terrible decisions. Bad play calling. Bad tackling. Wildly inaccurate passes. Dumb penalties. I expect that stuff early in the year, of course, especially by offenses. But it seems worse this week than last.
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It is like every quarter back is Tony Romo. (late to the party...)
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Derek Anderson should be banned from the starting quarterback position.
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Walt Coleman's crew is an unbelievably bad officiating crew. Their level of incompetence is just staggering. Why is nothing ever done about these clowns?
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What now?
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Derek Anderson does what Derek does, overthrow to William Moore. Finnernan on the fade to the corner for 6. Amazing that he's still playing.
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Kerry Collins is warming up for the Titans.
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Good week for ads..."ve are here.
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Steelers O Lineman dropping like flies...........
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They've had 3 people at LT now? Scott, Adams and Hills.
They're lucky if they pull this one off. One play can make this exiting but C Johnson looks exhausted and Vince Young isn't good either.
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Cardinals falling apart. Start at 2 after retun man steps on goal line when deciding to down the kickoff.
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I'd like to get off the Matt Moore bandwagon, please.
Guess I'm not right every time...
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I dropped him off my fantasy football team already for Mike Vick. Then someone offered me Jospeph Addai for him. Good deal. I think.
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Derek Anderson takes shot to ribs by Babineaux, stays in. Who is the AZ QB backup?
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Wouldn't it be Matt Leinhart?
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Matt Leinart is on the Texans nowadays.
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Some guy and Max Hall.
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I just need to bitch about "Life as we Know It" for a moment. Honestly, what horrible parents, in the event of their death, leave their child to two people who don't even like each other? However, seeing Katherine Heigel smeared with shit almost makes it worth it.
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Sorry, on what football team is this?
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OK... can anyone name a game with worse overall QB play in good weather than the Pit-Ten game today?
I know they both have good defenses, but wow. This makes Flacco v Sanchez last week look like Manning v Brady.
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Hmmm. I sense a new irrational quarterback debate coming on. Who really is the worst quarterback?
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Flacco and Palmer's display today has been pretty dreadful. At one point, I think Flacco was averaging 1.4 yards per attempt.
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Cleveland and Chicago last year. Anderson and Cutler combined 22 out of 50 for ~300 yards and 3 interceptions and 5 sacks. Can't even really call it good defense, either.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200911010chi.htm
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Last year's Browns-Bills 6-3 travesty. With God-knows-who starting at quarterback (either Edwards or Fitzpatrick) for the Bills, and Derek Anderson (who should be banned from starting at quarterback) starting for the Browns. Bills quarterbacks were bad, and Anderson kindly went 2-for-13 with thirty-something yards in that game.
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Good examples, all.
Collins is making a bid to remove this game from consideration.
(In response to a different post, I disagree with the assessments of Dixon and Batch. Neither was as good as you say. Though I think they were each sort of neutered by the play calling.)
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Well Dixon wasn't half bad, and Young was pretty bad. Then Dixon got injured and was replaced by Batch who was plain. Young was pulled for Collins who is old and... not so good.
This game was done when the Steelers made it 13-3 and hit C Johnson in the head. The can not make a comeback even if they have 20 more quarters to play.
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The Steelers defense is frighteningly good so far this year. I'm not sure they can sustain it if the offense doesn't raise their game to at least mediocre, but right now they're putting on a show.
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Agreed. They shut things down easily and have depth too. Hampton goes out and Hoke and Hood fill in easily. Farrior goes out and good ol' Larry Foote comes in. And some others.
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I didn't expect Mike Vick to look this good. And just by way of heaping on the irony, the announcers say Vick credits his improvement to... Donovan McNabb!
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And 3rd and 1, then again on 4th and 1, the Lions go to power formation with Ndamukong Suh in at fullback. Result: 2 runs up the middle (or into the middle, as the case may be) for -1 yards.
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Did somebody forget to tell Dallas there's a game this week?
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Cowboys... bwahahahahahaha.
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Kerry Rhodes tossed for touching a ref
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A Miami win, and four turnovers by Brett Favre in Minnesota. That combination is a better high than any drug!
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Favre would prefer Vicodin, I bet.
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Jason Snelling scores again
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Wonder if TMQ will make note of the hidden play in Detroit. Up ten, a Lion DB dropped a gimme INT on a terrible throw by Vick (he threw two in a row in that sequence, but seems rock solid otherwise). Instead of up ten with the ball, they gave up two quick scores and haven't had any hope since then.
It's the Lions, so up ten with the ball isn't any kind of guarantee, of course, especially in the first half. But that really turned things around for the Eagles.
(Williams and Brown tried to one up him in Minnesota, but Viking QB wouldn't stand for it.)
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Lions just recovered an onside kick at 35-32. Incredible.
Maybe that dropped INT matters after all.
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Or not. They're still the Lions.
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ATTENTION PIGS:
THE BUCCANEERS ARE 2-0 AND THE VIKINGS ARE 0-2 TO START THE SEASON. TAKE-OFF WILL BEGIN AT 1600 HOURS.
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SICK SICK play by Polamalu.
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Max Hall makes his debut in Garbage time, picked on an underthrow on a go route.
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And just when I was wondering why Polamalu is still in the game, he makes an awesome goal line play.
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Can you do an onside kick like that?!
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Farking Will Allen idiot!
DIE!
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Polamalu on the wrong place as always when they go deep.
Polamalu is one of the best safeties in the game with someone behind him, but in situations like this... he's not that good. Hope he proves me wrong.
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I'd like to say I didn't see this coming.
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WHO DEY! Let's see if this gets the Bengals to the top 10 in DVOA rankings. Likely their inability to actually get in the end-zone will leave them in the middle of the pack...
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Who's watching the NE - NYJ game?
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I am.
delay of game, kicking team. This denies a NE FG, and moves the ball 5 yards back => missed FG.
Sanchize picked on first pass. Under review.
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I know that's such a hard play. Your hands need to be bigger than the plain of the ball.
So you got to get it exactly there or they'll rule it incomplete.
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I am. Gostkowski missed a field goal, and Sanchize answers back by throwing an interception.
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And the interception gets called back.
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A three and out on the first drive. AKA best case scenario, Jets.
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Welker gets creamed 15 yards down field - defenseless reciever is called. Welker i shaken up, but will return soon.
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Welker comes out for 6-8 plays. On the sidelines they show him getting the concussion workup. Pats have goal-to-go, Welker comes back, touchdown Welker. Welker celebrates by head-butting several teammates.
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eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmm. You can over react on the concussion thing, the head butting thing is nothing. My dad said "you got to get aroung the defenders, but then you got to get away from you team mates too when they celebrate."
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The Bear's secondary doesn't seem great, but that front 7 is amazing so far.
I think I'd like to see a little more man coverage on 3rd down instead of wide open holes 15 yards downfield by the sidelines.
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Wes Welker is a machine.
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One play after they show a graphic about Garrard and Rivers having the two longest active streaks of games without 3+ picks, Garrard throws his first pick of the first half.
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Braylon Edwards with a jump-ball touchdown. He celebrates by being called for taunting.
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That shouldn't overshadow the fact that it was a fie drive by the Jets. 77 yards, 12 plays and around 7 minutes. Dink-and-dunk mostly, but by Jets standards it is huge.
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In related news, Mark Sanchez threw a touchdown pass that was caught by Braylon Edwards. Surprises all around...
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It looked like the Bronco's running back just threw the ball forward there. Broncos extremely lucky it just goes out of bounds.
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So far, Antonio Cromartie is having as much trouble covering Wes Welker as he does remembering his [nine] kids' names.
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Vick was mediocre today. Yeah he made some nice moves to evade some sacks and he put up some yards, but he didn't hit receivers in stride, didn't put the ball where only his guys could catch it... in other words same old Vick.
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Uh... You know Vick was the one in the Eagles uniform, right?
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I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is that Michael Vick looked like the Michael Vick of old. Which is to say he made some dazzling plays but didn't make the plays real QBs make.
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I have no idea what you are getting at. My point is that Michael Vick looked like the Michael Vick of old.
I thought your point was that Vick "made some nice moves to evade some sacks and he put up some yards, but he didn't hit receivers in stride, didn't put the ball where only his guys could catch it." He did make some good moves to avoid the pressure, but if that 45 yard touchdown to DeSean Jackson wasn't hitting his receiver in stride, what is? He also made some throws underneath where he really had to thread it in there.
I guess I didn't see his whole game last week, but I wouldn't have thought he had this kind of performance in him. Certainly from what I did see last week, he looked like the run-first Vick of old. Not so much against the Lions.
Anyway, we probably won't see him out there again for a long time. The question now is... Can the Eagles win a few with Kolb?
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I didn't watch Vick today, but when I watched him last week, I came away thinking that he looked like the exact same player he was a few years ago.
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Sam Bradford is 9/11-119-1/0. Pretty good - or the Raiders being worse than i thought.
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McNabb is 12/16 for 239 yards; he's had long throws to Joey Galloway, Chris Cooley, and Fred Davis.
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Matt Leinart's got to be thinking "I lost my job to this guy?". Anderson's always been extremely inaccurate and interception-prone, even in college and even in his pro bowl year. I'm not sure why the Cards thought they were going to get something different.
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So is the QB-needy teams in the league. Leinart can't possibly get more than clipboard duty again.
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Maybe they didn't expect anything different. Maybe Leinart is even worse.
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revis island scorched.
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Sweet one-handed TD grab by Moss. The play was set up by an amazing catch and run by the rookie TE Hernendez, though.
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Randy Moss has established real estate on "Revis Island", touchdown Patriots. Beatiful one-handed catch.
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Moss beats Revis, and makes the best cathch I've ever seen. That is utterly insane. It's the Dallas Clark pizza-catch, only with complete control.
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I've never seen another receiver just reach out and casually palm the ball out of the air like Moss can. Most receivers who catch the ball with one hand still have to pull it in quickly and pin it against their bodies to avoid dropping it, but not Moss.
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Jerry Rice and Chris Carter would like to have a word with you. I'll assume that you didn't see Fred Biletnikoff play.
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You assume correctly. Biletnikoff was well before my time. I missed most of Rice's and Carter's careers too--I was born in 1988, by which point both Rice and Carter were already in the NFL.
At any rate, let's just agree that it was a ridiculous catch, and that few if any other receivers in the league right now could have made it.
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Yep - a lot of players will catch that pass. Noone will catch it like that. He caught it like you would catch a baseball with a mit.
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Revis got beat so hard he hurt himself.
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Love the "oh my hamstring hurts, watch how I grabbed at it while Moss is catching a TD pass"
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Revis Island was torched so bad there that it's still on fire.
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Yeah it seemed like "Dang, I got owned.. Quick, look hurt!"
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Yeah. I'm not contending that he's not hurt at all, but it sure looked like Revis wanted to make sure everyone remembered.
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Revis hasn't come out for the first Jets defensive drive of the second half, it looks like he wasn't faking. Jets are saying Revis is questionable to come back in.
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Revis Island just got 2 times bigger. Not because he allowed a TD, but because Moss lined up in the middle. Revis uses the sideline, in the middle he can't and that's what the Patriots found out. I wonder how many more WRs can beat Revis on this island.
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Is it too early to say that Favre is looking old?
If he doesn't start playing like a probowler soon, the Vikings are going to be in serious trouble.
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Is it 2006? Then no, it is not too early.
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Since Favre in a Evil Purple uniform is just wrong, I'm completely in favor of the Vikings being in serious trouble (and wish Favre the best of luck in any non-Vikings-related future activities).
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Every once in awhile, Randy Moss makes a play that just leaves you stunned. Unfortunately for Revis, I think it stunned him, too. Moss caught that football with one hand as easily as one of us mere mortals might catch a tennis ball--Wow!
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Gradkowski is in for the Raiders and Scott Hansen says no word on if it's an injury or a coaches decision.
I'm starting to feel really foolish for predicting this team to challenge for the division.
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Me, too. And I also had Carolina contending for a wildcard spot.
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Then Gradkowski lights things up.
Somewhere Chris gives himself a large pat on the back.
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Is it me, or does Sam Bradford throw some awkward looking passes?
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The Shanahans are running that offense on what seems like smoke and mirrors. No running game (Portis 9 att, 10 yd), a lot of passing and 7 different recievers!
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McNabb has been incredible, but I don't see how he can hold up to the punishment he's taking.
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Whoooooooooow! And Revis Island has been protected by Antonion Cromartie.
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Whoooooooooow! And Revis Island has been protected by Antonion Cromartie.
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I hate when this happens. Bad players making big plays - Cromartie with an interception. Like when DeAngelo Hall lucks into a pick-6.
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Sure defenders can luck into an interception. But this wasn't and example to be honest. He was in perfect place to make it.
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Fair point. Still, shouldn't Brady hold on to that, though?
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Tom Brady throws a Hail Mary to Antonio Cromatie on a streak route.
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Did anyone else think Cromartie caught that ball before he reached the end zone? I didn't get a good look at the replay, but my first thought was that it was a safety.
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Me too. Forward progress, I guess. Dunno if thats the right call though - not too often this comes up...
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If your momentum carries you into the endzone it's a touchback. Doesn't really matter where the catch occurred.
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Beautifull. Brian Schottenheimer ties Belichek into a knot.
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My apologies to Revis, he's out for the game. It wasn't just alibi-pain.
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Sanchez is playing pretty well. All early-season asterisks apply: NE DEF might really suck.
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Yeah, the Jets' offense is looking good today. Just remember, New England's first game was against a Bengals team that plays offense like football fields are made of mud.
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Uhm.. The Bengals play in the AFC North, that's both a requirement, and often an actual fact. Those fields are oft made of mud, and three of the four teams play like they love that fact. The other team just sucks.
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I am surprised to see that Jason Snelling's big game did not come on something like 3.8 yards per carry. Of course, it was the Cardinals defense.
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Scott Hansen just said that Luke McCown is the 10th backup QB to see time in the first two weeks. This number sounds high, but I don't really have any context.
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Off the top of my head: Last week Dixon, Wallace, Vick, Hill, Clausen this week Gradkowski, Hall, Collins... sounds about right.
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I didn't mean I thought he was wrong, I mean it sounds like a high number of backup QBs to see by week 2.
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Does Bruce Gradkowski have the same defencies as Derek Anderson? This guy gave the Black Hole's offense a spark, and he constantly backing up [insert Raider's starting QB]. He's doing pretty well out there...
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My thought exactly. He seems way better than the QB's he's been backing up. He even seems to have a little upside - he did beat the Steelers last year.
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The announcer (John Lynch?) just claimed than McNabb was "so good" in the red zone...
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An incomplete pass stops the Jets-Pats clock at 13:37, yeah I'm lame.
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andre johnson BEAST.
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LeRon McClain could make for a good pro-wrestler; beautiful German Suplex, that was.
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Two questionable DPI calls enables the Jets to keep on grinding the clock. Actually they might get 7 in the process.
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2nd one was definitely not catchable.
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You're right that the second Butler PI was uncatchable. I'd have called holding on Butler (or nothing), but not PI. What I don't understand about the uncatchable rule is that even if the ball is uncatchable, there should still be either holding or illegal contact. But the choice appears to be either PI or nothing. Seems odd to me.
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It's only 2 games in, but any team that makes Sanchez look this good has a bad defense.
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3rd and 11 and McNabb throws for 8. It's like he's still in Philly. I say this as a McNabb backer.
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Dammit, Tom Bieber fail.
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shouldn't the Texans just run around for 3 seconds before kneeling?
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Overtime coming in Texans-Redskins game. Someone please explain OT rules to Donovan McNabb.
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beat me to it
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That's because I typed it up with a minute or so to go and hit "Post Comment" immediately when regulation ended.
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Gary Kubiak? What. The. F**k. Was. That?
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Humble. Modest. Reserved. Prudent.
These are not words that will be used to describe the Jets when this game ends.
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When did Tomlinson turn into a guy who celebrates first down runs? Wasn't he one of those hand-the-ball-to-the-ref type guys?
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When the Patriots did the lights out dance.
More likely he's celebrating essentially winning the game, not just a first down.
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See: the post above.
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What happened in Washington right before OT?
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With three seconds left, Kubiak decides to have their punter run backwards like a jackass before sliding to the ground.
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Which was the right play. Better question, why didn't Was take a TO with 16 seconds left, forcing the Texans to punt and giving them one shot for a hail Mary.
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The Texans ran off the last 3 seconds by having the punter run around backwards and then go to the ground rather than risk having a punt blocked.
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Great play by Shaub on 2nd down. Two Redskins missed him though. They're really self-destructing.
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Delay of game penalty makes Kubiak look very incompetent.
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It was intentional to make more room to punt, now the fact that they still punted into the endzone...
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How so? The extra five yards would help the punter (in theory, Turk just boomed one into the end zone anyway).
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Does Dan Fouts really think a 52-yard field goal attempt on the road is a good idea? Personally, I'd go for it with a slant to Andre Johnson, but it's not like punting and playing field position is a terrible idea even with their craptastic secondary.
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Punting from the 35 is almost always a bad idea. The upside is extremely small compared to either going for it or kicking a field goal.
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If you don't feel confident in your kicker from that range, then why kick? Like I said, I'd have gone for it, but I'd say the punt is second in the list of options ahead of a long field goal that is likely out of Rackers' range.
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What are the percentages on 53 yard field goals? Rackers has the leg strength for it.
And they punt it into the endzone, bleh.
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Rackers certainly did once have the leg strength for it, but I'm not certain he does any more: dude is 34 years old. Also, it seems reasonable to assume the kick was into whatever wind there was, given that the Redskins lost the toss and chose ends, and the ridiculous distance Gano got on the kick that never was.
Like others here I would have gone for it (and called my third down play with the knowledge that I was going to go for it) but I would not have kicked the field goal in preference to punting.
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I don't think I've ever heard "look how high he has to catch this ball" said about a pass from McNabb.
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I can't believe anyone would punt instead of going for a 53-yard FG in overtime.
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I hate when that happens.
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Unsurprisingly, Shanahan kicks the field goal that Kubiak was afraid to kick and then Kubiak uses Shanahan's last-second time out trick. Could any sequence in coaching history be more predictable?
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Icing works.
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Gary Kubiak is Chauncey Gardiner.
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nice
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Icing the kicker, it really does work. I think teams should practice hiking the ball with about 5 seconds left for game winning field-goals, so coaches don't have time to ice the kicker.
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Not really something you can conclude from one game (anymore than you can conclude that it doesn't work if he missed the first and made the second attempt).
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There was an XP article posted here recently about the analysis of icing the kicker. The analysis demonstrated that it does in fact work.
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I saw the XP. The full article hadn't actually been published yet, and there are some potential snags with the methodology that weren't addressed in the write-up.
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I'd imagine a kick of that distance is approximately 50% or less anyway. So it's more likely that the greater factor for the miss, in my opinion, is due to the distance of the kick.
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Graham Gano misses the 52-yard field goal after Kubiak ices him. The student learns from the teacher...
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Tryouts for kickers in Dallas and Washington on tap this week.
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3rd and 4 or 4th and 1? I'd take 3rd and 4.
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Without looking up the numbers, that's my inclination too.
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That's what Houston takes. I'd much rather have two tries to go 4 yards than 1 try for 1.
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Just about everyone not named "Dan Fouts" agrees with you.
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Rackers would have missed it if he was iced. Just saying.
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Well, at least McNabb doesn't become the first guy in modern history with 2 ties.
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Two ties would be far better than two collars: http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper985/stills/433a27494d3dc-28...
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Why don't the Jones' parents or the Ayanbedejos' parents get interviewed?
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Probably because their dad wasn't a Hall-of-Fame player.
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Neither was the Mannings'.
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You have to give the Jets some credit for backing up their big talk. Pats are back to the drawing board on defense, although, I'm not sure you can hide those two young corners.
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Incredibly nice opening drive from the Elder Manning.
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what is this crazy 'run' offense I'm seeing from the Colts?
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Either Ahmad Bradshaw completely abdicated his responsibility to help pick up Mathis, or Kareem McKenzie is being asked to deal with Mathis one-on-one. Bad scene either way.
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Dwight Freeney is abusing Diehl.
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Like on every snap. I'm watching him on every passing play beat him inside, outside and straight on. .
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This game is just abusive, in almost every respect of the word.
I think Bill Simmons would call it a "F-You game."
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please pull manning senior now; no sense risking an injury
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Some fantasy owners just got a gift victory there.
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what crap NBC cut away from showing the criminal coverup in Indy after Jacobs assaulted a fan with his helmet. Can you imagine the lawsuit if some kid in the front row had gotten busted in the face with that helmet ? And tough guy security takes the helmet away from a consoling father to boot? NFL got lucky on this one.
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San Fransisco: Worst. Snap. Ever.
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Mike Singletary: "We will not try to snap the ball way over the quarterback's head, resulting in a safety. We WILL snap the ball way over the quarterback's head, resulting in a safety."
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Watching Anthony Davis this game. Just started on the scoring drive. He looked very good. Especially on the wr screen.
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I just realized in that wranglers commercial it appears that favre gets picked trying to throw a post.
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I'm a little surprised Payton took the FG there up 5. If he went for it, the worst-case scenario is Alex Smith has to go 98 yards in a little over 2 minutes with no timeouts.
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Outstanding drive by San Francisco to tie it up. 2pt conversion good on review, clear as day. Smith looked the genuine article on that drive, smart and instinctive. Playcall for the touchdown was inspired.
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Felt like the 49ers out-played the Saints, but had bad luck.
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On that last play, did the Saints let the 49ers score to tie it up with over a minute left so they would have time for another score of their own?
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Definitely outplayed. Turnovers. Tipped int, bad fumble in the RZ. Should have won this one.
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So Bush... MCL? ACL? Looked like his knee got a pretty nasty twist.