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Who's excited about the JT O'Sullivan vs. Jon Kitna showdown?

I know I am.

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your new wesite is blocking me from accessing my premium content

separate threads

Can we have separate threads for the early, late, sunday night and monday night games?

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Big game for KC! They survived a big game last week... hopefully that can muster up an equally impressive performance and lock up that #1 over all draft pick.

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Go big BLUE!

That is all.

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I haven't looked at any spreads yet, but here are the winners.

Washington
Minnesota
NYG
Tennessee
Atlanta
New England
Buffalo
Tampa Bay
San Francisco
Denver
Seattle
Baltimore
Indianapolis
Philadelphia
Green Bay
San Diego

Actually I'm thinking about switching that Houston pick. Just a gut feeling based mostly on the extra week off from game action.

edit: These are my picks, they were not copied from the premium database.

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PENALTIES

I was reviewing some previous articles about stats and I felt that there was a glowing ommission. What about penalties. I would like to see whether it be on offense or defense that stats are kept on penalties assessed and possibly a subset of those that were turned down. For instance:

Each player should have listed (depending on position of course) all the penalties that were assessed on him. For the OL like false starts, holding, personal fouls, etc., just like the running backs are given credit for att, yds, tds, fumbles etc. Also the amount of yards assessed for each penalty.

Also on both sides of the ball things like dropped passes (that were not really defensed) or sure interceptions that were "in and out" of the hands of the defenders.

I tried doing the penalties myself but because I am not the "official stat" person my numbers never agreed with the official numbers so I just stopped.

Should this be done it aught to be "published" no less than at the end of each quarter of the season or eaven a weekly listing like the other "accountable stats are.

Rillbizi

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A lot of interesting games on tap for Week 3:

Carolina @ Minnesota:
-Can Gus Frerotte turn the Vikings' longship around? I think Viking fans know the answer to this. I also think the Redskins, Lions, Broncos, Bengals, Dolphins and Rams fans know as well.

New Orleans @ Denver:
-Can the Fighting Ed Hochulis get off to a 3-0 start or will the Saints go into Mile High and steal one?

Pittsburgh @ Philadelphia:
-The marquee game of the week could be in the Keystone State as Big Ben and company travel to the Linc. Here's hoping that DeSean Jackson doesn't make another blunder like the one on Monday Night in front of the Philly fans, if only for his safety.

Dallas @ Green Bay:
-John Madden's first Favre-less Packer game in a while will feature Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo in what looks like it will be a great game. How will the Packers' defense slow down TO and Marion Barber? Will Dallas' defense show up during the first three quarters of the game?

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but I think the honeymoon is just about over.

So we can expect a DeSean Jackson sex tape to be released over the internets in the upcoming week?

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Anybody else watching ESPN and see the MNF crew sitting around in street clothes talking about the game. AWKWARD. It looked so forced, these are not 3 friends sitting around talking about the game no matter how hard you pretend.

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What an odd start to the day. Sit at the local pub, set up my laptop, get the local TV news come over to interview me on the fact that Budweiser is raising their prices.

Guess I must look like an expert or something.

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Lovely. Looks like the stupid quotient is going to be extra-high on the field for the Bucs-Bears game. Lots of pushing and shoving, already one 15-yarder for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Is it too much to ask that, if the Bucs spent a 2nd-round pick on Dexter Jackson, that he be able to stay on his feet during a return and not fall down every time?

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I love seeing Ronde get a sack.

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Giants pass rush is just abusing the Bengals at the start of the game.

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First three drives of HOU@TEN produce no completions, a net -12 offensive yards, and an interception which leads to a Houston field goal. The Titans D-line is dominating Houston's OL, to no-one's great surprise. Andre Johnson could have had a touchdown if he'd brought in a difficult catch in the corner of the endzone.

2 successive first downs for the Titans, and the Texans seem unable to stop them on the ground.

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Collins looking good, since that horrible interception. Picking on Jacques Reeves. If the Steelers game wasn't enough confirmation, the Texans defense still sucks.

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Terrible call in the Pats/Fins game. Now all a defender has to do is grab the QB without bringing him down, and it's a sack?

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Uh oh. Inaccurate Eli looks to be in New York today-- what an awful miss on third and two.

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Son of an Alstott, Lendale White vultures another TD.

NRG

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2nd and 10 on the 11, Crumpler apparently drops a touchdown. He insists he caught it. Titans penalised on the play for illegal motion, Texans decline. Fisher asks if the Texans can change their decision to decline the penalty if the play is reviewed and ruled a catch, and is told they can. Totally makes sense that that should be the rule, but I had never (as far as I can remember) seen that situation before.

Titans score on fourth down from the 2 via White, after Johnson picks up good YAC on 3rd.

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OK, I'm already tired of that "I'm a PC" commercial.

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Not sure why Kubiak's challenging that. Griffin clearly had possession before he slid out of bounds.

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It is worse than just having inaccurate Eli. The return of the undisciplined, silly Giants is upon us. May God have mercy on us all.

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8 minutes in in Atlanta, and NFL.com tells me that Tyler Thigpen is 0-5, Larry Johnson 3-7 and Matt Ryan 1-4 for 4. Glad I'm not watching that game.

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Warrick Dunn sharing the field with Jerramy Stevens and Antonio Bryant. One of the best people to ever play the game (in terms of off-the-field contributions) along with two absolute head cases.

Also, TD Ike Hilliard!

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Slaton breaks a 51 yard gain after breaking a tackle behind the line of scrimmage and is horse collared. That's good for about 70 more offensive yards than the Texans have managed on every other play combined.

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And Schaub drops the ball on the snap, losing 3 yards on 1st and goal. That's all on him, not the centre. QB controversy coming in Houston . . .

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Vanden Bosch is, unsurprisingly, killing Duane Brown. Rosenfels is not as accurate a passer as Schaub, but his pocket presence is better and against the murderers' row of pass rushes that Houston face to open the season, with a particularly raw rookie starting at left tackle, he might well be the better option.

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And now a Plax drop 15 yards down field with some open turf in front of him. I am starting to get a bad feeling about this...

ETA: It's a trap!

Looks like the Giants get a first down on some PI...

ETAA: And a long 1st down to the big Boss man! Woot!

ETAAA: And then another pass to Boss, his first two of the year, followed by a Jacobs TD! Giants lead! So does my fantasy team! Life is good!

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I'm not watching that game, but Eli's numbers don't look bad thus far. Is he throwing to 9-foot-tall receivers like he used to?

NRG

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Hot potato pick by Barrett Ruud in the end zone. We'll be seeing that one tomorrow.

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Miami is up 14-3 on New England. The Pats may have to let Cassel try to make some plays here.

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Miami is up 14-3 on New England. The Pats may have to let Cassel try to make some plays here.

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Bengals touchdown. They are getting good yards on the ground, which is troubling.

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Dear Santa,
For Christmas I would like

Some outside linebackers who can tackle
A safety who can cover
A complementary pass-rusher
Something resembling an interior offensive line
Never to see CC fricking Brown take the field in a Texans uniform again. Ever. I'm serious. None of this "good boy" bollocks. Make it happen or Rudolph is venison, you fat old cola-pusher.

Love from Mr Shush

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Ok, if Andre Johnson has lost the ability to catch the ball there is actually no hope left.

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Bengals offense not looking all that bad. The pass blocking isn't particularly good, but they're successfully picking on Giants' nickel corner, Kevin Dockery, and the running game is catching the Giants' linemen and blitzers getting too far upfield.

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C'mon fade to Plax.

NRG

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Great pass by Orton, right into the hands of Gaines Adams. Looks like a touchdown to me.

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Thigpen, who I did draft in the last round of my dynasty (all keeper) league, might be the worst prepared quarterback I have ever seen. This is truly embarrassing.

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Slaton gets his first NFL touchdown, flattening the first tackler en route. Kid looks good.

And Matt Turk fumbles the snap on the PAT, and sidearms a pick to Vanden Bosch while falling over. Ye Gods.

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Why doesn't any one else in football do the Charles Tillman football punch?

It seems like a teachable skill, but even other players on the Bears don't do it.

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Sack, Gmen!

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someone please explain how and why Herm Edwards still has a job

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Wow. Thigpen is truly putting up a loser league performance for the ages. 2-13 for 12 yards and 2 picks through one and a half quarters. Boggling.

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Why the hell did Kubiak not challenge that? McCarreins was clearly out of bounds when he caught that 30 yarder on the 3. He also pushed off - horrible decisions by the officials, horrible decision by Kubiak, and White has the touchdown.

Edit: And for added fun, replay suggests White didn't actually break the plane on third down. No challenge there either.

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21-6 Dolphins, another TD for Ronnie Brown out of the Wildcat offense. Can we make a "this formation works because Belichick doesn't have tape of it" joke here? :)

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So maybe this wasn't the week to play the NE defense?

NRG

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That was embarrassing. Whoever that was is fast as hell. I can't believe he didn't score.

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Another Giants sack, but barring a chip-shot Figgie miss, the Bengals will have the halftime lead. Even game so far, which is a disappointment, but at least we don't look horrible.

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Seabass saves a touchdown. He took a better angle than the average linebacker. Kind of amazing, actually.

NRG

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Great play by Antwaan Molden to prevent the touchback, leaping to claw the ball back from behind his head.

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Wow, this is awesome. Awesomely bad. I can't turn away from the KC-Atlanta game when the Chiefs are on offense. I can't believe they're letting this guy play. He actually looks OK when he throws on the move, but, standing in the pocket, he has maybe the worst mechanics I've ever seen.

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The Chin says NE is losing because of a lack of spunk and swagger. Perhaps NE needs more bath houses, which is a sure cure for a lack of spunk, if not swagger.

NRG

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The Dolphins have actually used the Wildcat formation more than once. It looks effective! Who knew that gimmick might actually work against real NFL defenses?

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Eli zips a nice pass to Hands of Earth Jacobs with predictable results.

ETA- followed by an awful pass while getting hit. Giants O is off today.

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Giants show all-out blitz way before the snap. No adjustment by the Bengals. Result- 7 yard sack.

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There go those damn Dolphins running up the score again!

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I am new to FO and am wondering if there is anywhere on the site that projects the scores for the games for the week. Any input would help...Thanks everyone.

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Watching Cin v NY Giants before the "Clash for the Commonwealth"...why would you call a running play on 3rd and 25?

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Kubiak not showing much faith in Schaub on the first drive of the second half: three straight Slaton runs, concluding with a pitch for no gain on third and four.

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Ah, Brian Griese. You're still . . . Brian Griese. Throwing off your back foot isn't exactly going to help your already-questionable accuracy.

Patriot woes

As a Colt fan living in New England, I am enjoying the moment. Randy Moss playing like the front-runner he is -- alligator arms on a pass across the middle; Rodney Harrison taking a cheap shot at a running back being tackled by a teammate and instead hitting Bruschi in the knees; the home crowd booing at every chance when they are not stunned; Bellicheck's defense going 0-3 in defending the RB direct snap. Fun while it lasts. I expect the Pats to win eventually, but this is fun while it lasts.

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Go steelers.
Sorry Philly fans, but be prepared for a losing record.

Also, allow me to be first to say: LOL PATRIOTS OMG haha.

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Ward with a nice run-- he's had significantly better success than Jacobs today. He seems to go through tight seems better.

ETA-- Carney for the tie! Woot!

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It's amazing to see the Pats have zero answer for the Wildcat offense and Ronnie Brown. I wonder if the Dolphins will call off the dogs at any point.

Vrabel - Williams

Can't blame Vrabel there. Seemed like a block that if not intended to injure, had a good chance of causing injury. And, it's an unnecessary block considering that the runer was long gone.

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Rusher F**KING McFumbles

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CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW THE @#$!!! BRIAN GRIESE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A BETTER OPTION THAN GARCIA?????

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Wow, except for the kicking game the Patriots have sucked incredibly today.
I think they are already mentally on their bye week vacation.
I wonder who will the quarterback 2 weeks from now?
Brady got beat bad in his game two but I don't remember much about that, it was just the eighty billionth time the Broncos beat the Pats in those days.
It wasn't losing to a 12 point dog.

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And the fins ABSOLUTELY should pour it on in this game. After last year's "matchups", they need to extract their pound of flesh (or blubber, they are cetaceans, after all) wherever they can.

I think that RBrown's DVOA (and DYAR, despite sharing the gig) will be "high" for this game. A number of first downs, 4 rushing TDs (all of them longer than a "plunge") and a 19 yard passing TD on his only attempt. No TOs. It's really nice to see him something approximating "back".

-Sean

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Cassel gets the same benefit of the doubt on roughing calls that Brady gets.

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Terrible, Hochuli-worthy roughing penalty on Vonnie Holliday. Cassel still had the ball when Holliday hit him. "Driving the QB into the ground"? Get a QB who does not fall down flopping like a fish, how about? It called back a Hill pick and gave NE some punting safety. Ugh.

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By the way, am I crazy or is Devone Bess at least 3 times the offensive player that Tedd Ginnnn, Jrrrrr. is ?

Fins go over 200 yards on the day on the ground. Brown is around 120 and Sticky Ricky just hit about 90.

How I wish I was sitting in my brother-in-law's seats in Gillette right about now...

-Sean

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Bah. Bengals 1st down into Giants territory. They are picking up the blitz much better now. And then a flea-flicker for 10. Arrgh!

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Slaton is really, really impressing today. It's not so much the shiftiness - that's expected - it's the ability to bull through tacklers and move the pile.

Inexplicable back to back passes on second and goal from the 2, when they're clearly intent on going for it on fourth, and both Taylor and Slaton have been effective at getting hard yards today.

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The Giants have the lead, but the Bengals have outplayed them today. They are getting more consistent rushing yards, making fewer penalties, and are threatening more often. The Giants have had a few nice long drives, but right now I am very worried.

ETA- Bengals touchdown on a wide open post to Housyourdaddy. 4 1/2 to go, Bengals by 4. I am even more worried than before.

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Hello QB controversy.

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And that's two straight drives turned over on downs in the redzone. Why didn't they run on second and/or third?

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Giants moving. Great run by Ward, who has looked *much* better than Jacobs today, followed by a strike to Toomer. Down to the Cin 35.

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I went to the ESPN scores page and the QB they have listed as "Top Performer" is Kyle Orton.

*Looks out window to check for ominous flying horsemen*

EDIT: He's now been replaced by Brian Griese, which is less disconcerting, but I just noticed that Brandon Lloyd leads the game with 100 yards receiving. Wacky.

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Eli is NOT accurate today. Should have stayed with my first impression.

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Not that it makes much odds, because that's pretty much the game anyway, but Griffin just cost his team 24 yards by picking off a pass on 4th down instead of batting it.

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Soprano gets Splashed.
Gatorade bath for a 1 and 2 record? harummphs this disappointed pats fan.

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3rd and goal, Giants. Eli to the BIG BOSS MAN TOUCHDOWN BIG BLUE! WOOOT!

Minn Panthers

The refs totally screwed this game. I'm not sure whether it was a deliberate attempt to give the home team the victory or just incredibly, amazingly poor officiating, but the game was unwatchable in the second half as the officials did everything they could to ruin the game.

It sucks to see a game consistently poorly called. I wish the NFL would just put out an announcement telling us not to bother watching the game.

They really need to consider sorting out their reffing problem. This game was just a waste of time.

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Giants drop a pick. Bengals almost in figgie range.

ETA- False start, 51 seconds. 1st and 15 from the 40.

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1st and goal Bengals, 4 seconds. They will try for the tying figgie...

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Penalty as time expires give Orton a potential hail mary op., but they don't take it. LAME!

Free Neckbeard!

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Damn. Giants have to punt after a bad Eli throw on 2nd down would have given them great field position and first down.

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Come on Giants, end this!

ETA- Toomer open deep, Eli misses. Then hits Plax on a nice long gain. First down, BIG BLUE!

ETAA-- bad throw on 1st down. Worse throw on 2nd down. 3rd and 10.

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And WHAT A CATCH BY THE WELL DRESSED AMANI TOOMER. TAP TAP THOSE FEET! WOOT!

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Gah, the Cretin is calling Eagles-Steelers!

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The Giants win a game where we were outplayed, although not badly. ****WHEW!!!****

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Ooooh, Tony Hunt down. Bad collision.

Oh, and damn, the Giants won.

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Shit, Eagles fumble.

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And now they jump off-sides.

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I have a really bad feeling about this game. The Eagles have had a bad case of fumble-itis lately.

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As someone who was pulling against them, let me say the Bears were royally screwed. After stopping the Bucs deep in their own territory (inside the 20) in overtime on 3rd down, after the play was over a Buc started a fight with a Bear, Charles Tillman came in late into the fight and got a 15 yard personal foul for it, which kept the drive alive that ended in the winning FG.

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That Julius Jones TD was a thing of beauty. He was completely bottled up, ran over a defender and broke outside and scored before the Rams realized the play was still going on.

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Crap, McNabb shaken up on the failed flea-flicker. Now Westbrook limping. Ugh.

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McNabb looks ok but Westy still out.

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I don't understand the Bears this year. They play so well for stretches but can't seem to keep it up. Then the opposing team gets a few big plays, and they lose.

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Shit, shit, shit. Westbrook heading for the locker room.

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I haven't seen him play this week, but doesn't it look like Pennington has a lot more velocity on his throws this year?

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Did the Westbrook injury look serious?

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re Westbrook injury:
Westbrook got his right ankle trapped under him while trying to avoid standing on a philly lineman as he landed after hurdling him and a steeler player who were on the ground. Westbrook seemed a bit annoyed, threw his gloves away as he went down the tunnel limping slightly. Not sure if that's a good or bad sign.

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Westbrook walked off the field under his own power, so hopefully not serious.

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Wow, replay shows a TERRIBLE non-call for pass interference on the Jags' pick-6. Mathis grabbed Harrison's jersey and tugged himself into position for that pick. Doesn't he realize that Marvin's packing chrome? Non-Colts-fan here, but the My Little Ponies got royally jobbed (Hoch'ed?).

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Wow, Eagles defense has had a lot of penalties today. Apparently this ref team has decided to enforce the facemask penalty, something the Monday night crew overlooked.

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Phil Simms just correctly pronounced the name "Samuel".

Moments after Roethlisberger forces a throw into double coverage deep, McNabb (under pressure) misses an open receiver by about ten yards and turns it back over.

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Well, there's really no way they couldn't call THAT facemask? I mean, they practically ripped Roethlisberger's head off ...

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Oh, I agree, it was a valid penalty. I just wish the ref crews would be more consistent.

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The right side of the Steelers' line is absolutely stealing their paychecks. Kendall Simmons has watched more blitzers go by than he's actually touched.

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There's an injury to McNabb's chest?????

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Ladies and gentelmen.... Kevin Kolb!!!

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Between the Steelers not having a line and the Eagles not having a QB, this may be an even game.

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Kolb's first pass... batted up by the DB, and Polamalu makes an amazing play to (possibly) intercept it.

First thoughts on the review - he had possession before the ball hit the ground, should be an INT.

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Harrison just does NOT get into position anymore, and will NOT fight for a ball. Injuries and age taking their toll?

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Ball hit the ground. Reid is challenging.

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Nice, Kolb. Your first pass as an NFL QB in the regular season is INT. Ugh.

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Anybody know what's wrong with McNabb? The announcers on TV haven't given much information.

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Buckhalter has now touched the ball on two consecutive plays without blowing out his knee. A new personal best!

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McNabb back in but he's wincing. Doesn't seem to slow down his throws, though.

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Wow, the Colts are going to be absolutely terrible this year. I think before the Super Bowl Eli stole all his brother's mojo and hasn't given it back.

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In the third quarter, which just ended, Indy had the ball for ~2 minutes. Now *that's* some ball control by Jax.

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Helmet-to-helmet hit BEFORE the ball gets there on Dallas Clark - no flag - and the Colts are probably not going to pull this one out, kids.

Badly ref'd game, at least on 2 specific plays that fly in the face of home-field advantage.

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I think that Dungy just pooped watching Manning "slide".

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I think Mike Tomlin's eyes just came fully out of his head.

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Wow - 1st and goal at the 3 for the Colts, 1:18 to go, colts down 6. I'm very happy that NASN chose to show this game in France.

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But forget about intentional grounding; it was a sack.

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Addai TD run at 1:07. Colts should go up by 1 in a couple of moments, but leaving Jax with the time to try to get to short range. But that was a heck of a drive. The Colts should go Pats-style and run in the gun 60% of the time.

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I did not realize that Del Rio was in the Reid/Herm school of clock mis-management. They have 3 timeouts, yet managed to eat 31 seconds gaining 8 yards on 2 plays. 4th and 1 Jags on their 29.

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If the Colts win this game...they will set the "a 2-1 team who has no business being 2-1 record."

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After that 4th and 1 late PI call on an uncatchable ball behind the intended receiver, the Jags drive continues.

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Scobee 51yd FG, and the Jags will go home with a win barring a miracle return.

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What happened to Big Ben?

Edit: Nantz just said a hand injury.

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Saints put up 500 yards but an incredible inability to gain 1 yard on the ground (multiple occasions) is their downfall. Note: it is not just the fault of the running backs, and they took Reggie out for these plays, so it ain't him.

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All I can say is, Tom Brady must be even better than I thought he is (which already is pretty high up) to have caused this kind of offensive decline all by his absence. I honestly didn't think any single player could have that kind of decline for his team, especially when his replacement isn't playing historically bad...

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I keep telling you guys. The Steelers are fielding quite possibly the worst pass blocking o-line in NFL history. There is absolutely no way to overstate how bad they are.

Everything was ducky while they were playing the pass-rush-free Texans and Browns, but this thing's going to get real ugly real fast. Roethlisberger's going to get seriously hurt. As a Roethlisberger admirer, I can only hope he goes on IR (which, trust me, he will before too long, it's inevitable) with a blown-out knee or a torn Achilles or a torn hamstring or something, and not a severe concussion or torn up shoulder.

But honestly, it's going to take years to fix the Steelers' absolutely nonexistent offensive line. Even if Roethlisberger somehow avoids having his career prematurely ended by injuries, his prime stands to be pissed away because of the Steelers' appalling total ignorance of their o-line.

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So am I the only one who was amazed at how poorly the Steelers handled the last minute? Why didn't they kick the easy field goal with 1:15 or so and a timeout? Or failing that, why not kick it with about a minute and no timeouts? Failing that, why not kick it on 4th down after the sack with the clock running?

Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to see the Steelers botch things so horribly (and if they had kicked, they'd still need to recover the onside and score a TD, so they were most likey losing anyway), and especially to see them so thoroughly helpless against a decent pass rush. 'Twas most entertaining seeing Eagle defenders beat Roethlisberger to his dropback point every other play. But it really aggravates me when professional coaches getting paid millions of dollars to make these decisions fail to do what is obviously right.

Well, at least Romeo won't be winning KCW this week. Granted, they got blown out so badly (by a mediocre Baltimore team, no less!) that none of his bad decisions could've risen to the level of Tomlin's foolishness, but still... So yeah, go Browns?

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Alright! Good start Cowboys.

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Nevermind...settling for a fieldgoal there is a loss.

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I'm not sure what is more fluke: the Grant fumble or the Dallas WR collective case of the dropsies, but GB looks a little bit better early.

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How late must a late hit be to be late? After a guy rolls on the ground and then gets back up apparently isn't late enough.

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The Cowboys' offense is really moving. I'd trade a little bit if their D would improve some.

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Nice throw, Romo. I really hate having my team QBed by NextFavre.

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Does Romo only throw Ints in the end zone? We know he only fumbles near or behind the goal line.

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wow. one of those 'you idiot! take a knee in the endzone!' to go go go! plays...

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Nick Collins is the man!

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Ugh. Romo's got to have better vision than that. The reply was shown from his point of view, and if you've got laser-sights on Witten, it's an easy throw. But pan back just a bit and there are just too many defenders and it's time to move to the next option.

Very frustrating.

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Why can the Cowboys defenders never take the quarterback to the ground?

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Nice Favre impression by NotFavre.

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Dallas' offensive prowess has slowed down. Third and 8 and I'm not confident.... and a sack. Yeah.

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Man, the Cowboys look really, really ugly tonight.

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BTW, is it just me, or is the traffic on the FO message boards during games down? Perhaps my memory is flawed, but I thought there were more people around last season...

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At least one Cowboy has something in him tonight.

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Nice. And look at TO block!!

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So any idea what the AGS game will be this week? ;)

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Wow. Woulda been nice to see some Packers somewhere on that side of the field.

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Excited for Heroes. NOT excited for Knight Rider.

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It would be good to see Rodgers getting some pass protection, too.

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Looking a little less ugly now...

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Why doesn't Pacman have an "A. Jones" on his jersey? They obviously have other Joneses on their team (Felix, Jerry, etc)...

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Lance, half the folks are on the IRC channel. See page one.

NRG

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Hmmm. Dallas has the ball inside the 20. So I smell a Romo interception soon?

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He actually threw it out of the reach of everyone instead of forcing it.

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Best thing about seeing my team on Sunday night instead of Monday night - No annoying and inane Tony Kornheiser commentary.

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Miserable.

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Oops. Blown coverage by Dallas. Was that Adam Jones' fault?

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I thought they were going to miss another sack.

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NICE! Finally a sack when it matters.

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Miles Austin got a catch!?! WTH!?

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Nice play, but man. Miles Austin isn't that fast!

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In standing up.

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Normally, I consider Madden to be like the Dick Vitale of the NFL. Every week, some guy is an All Pro, and the best at his position, etc. But with Witten, I wonder. Am I being homer, or is Witten really the best all-around TE in the game right now?

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I've read on this very website that Witten is the best all-around TE in the league.

BTW was it my imagination or did Collins slip on that big Austin reception?

(Formerly "The McNabb Bowl Game Anomaly")

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New Special Teams Strategy: Adam Jones, just run into the crowd and get tacked. No penalties, and less drama.

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Yeah. Three plays, and GB brought it each time with now answer from Dallas. Miserable offensive series. OH. The most penalized team in the league adds to it.

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Something of a non-call on the GB hold on Rodgers' scramble on that 2nd down play. But ti doesn't matter since the 3rd down pass is incomplete...

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Should I know who Don Rickles is? I don't even know if that is spelled correctly.

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23.

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Two things: A) I HATE the intential grounding call in those situations. B) I LOVE the TD to Miles Austin.

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Miles Austin!? Again!? Freakish. Two catches in one game.

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Favre II is out-favring Notfavre.

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Man, I'm liking Bennett so far this year. Not a lot of touches, but when he gets a hold of it he does something.

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I'm pretty sure this drive is pretty irrelevant. The Packers take way too long to get down the field.

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Madden and Michaels have really deteriorated during the 4th quarter here. Its 1 part football, 5 parts talking about irrelevant stuff, and 2 parts unnecessary laughter from Michaels.

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Worst play ever.

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Does McCarthy not passes that are longer than 8 yards in the playbook?

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Yeah, it really does seem like GB just does dink-and-dunk, even in their hurry-up.

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I wonder if part of this is real-time practice. So fine, they aren't going to win this. But if they were really down by just a few points, then it's good experience for him to move the ball down field with urgency.

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If your 8-yard passes include 75 YAC, you don't need long passes.

NRG

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What's with teams trying to do crazy lateral plays late in games against the Cowboys?

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I don't think I can take the Favregasm tonight. Go Marmalad!

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Well, that was fast. Pick 6 in the first 5 minutes for the Jets. Gonna be a long game for the Bolts if they don't get it together soon.

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So should Cowher start looking for houses in the San Diego area?

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Damn, that was a nice pass defensed by Lowry.

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Cromartie, when a QB giftwraps a pick 6 that well, you have to take it.

Or... the D can get a fumble on the next play and almost get to the end zone to make up for your drop I suppose.

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Well, he didn't drop that one. Favre should probably stop throwing to that side of the field.

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*Whistles* Poor kicker. Well, we'll see if the Jets can get 5 yards to answer the INT.

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Did Jaws just call Favre "almost Favrelike?"

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Well, surprise on-side kicking is one way to avoid a Sproles return...

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Listening to the Westwood One radio broadcast. Dennis Green's voice sounds like he's not going to make it to the end of the game.

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I always thought the Achilles heel was the Achilles heel of the foot.

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I love how all of Favre's mistakes are because he's struggling to learn the new system. I guess all the ints he's thrown over the years have been miscommunications, too.

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That was just an atrocious, atrocious interception thrown by Favre. Wow.

He just wound up and bombed it, and away it went, and on the screen, it sailed over some receiver's head and looked like it was falling in no man's land, falling, falling, and then, BOOM, a player comes DIVING onto the screen to catch the ball, landing just in bounds, and that player is wearing a Chargers jersey.
DOH.

This quarterbacking play is as bad as Kornheiser's commentary, who just said something like: "I should think Brett would know the playbook by now... and Jaws is shaking his head." And Jaws interrupts to say "Tony you're a dumbass."

Now then, how about another Phil Rivers TD for my fantasy team?

I need to not wax poetic after drinking.

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And the slaughter continues.

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Fantastic. The Chargers score a TD after a Favre interception, so the director switches to the Favrecam to see his reaction. Only problem is, you can't even see Favre because some lineman's fat ass is in the way! So the Chargers just scored a TD and we're all looking at a Jet lineman's fat ass.

(Formerly "The McNabb Bowl Game Anomaly")

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Favre has never won a game when his team was down 14+? Ever? How is that possible?

(Formerly "The McNabb Bowl Game Anomaly")

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Clearly not true. Doesn't anyone remember the Packers being down 14-0 to the Seahawks last January?

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I would go to bed, but this game still has fantasy implications for me- my opponent is only down 13 with Favre and Kaeding. I'm a little nervous, especially since the Jets are getting the ball back.

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As it turns out, listening to Amy Winehouse while watching Favre get the stuffing kicked out of him is much more enjoyable than listening to Kornheiser while watching Favre get the stuffing kicked out of him. Though, to be honest, watching Favre get the stuffing kicked out of him is pretty enjoyable on its own.

"A little celery is always nice after a good pee."

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Is anybody else seeing this? 3 straight penalties on the D on a 2 point conversion try.

(Formerly "The McNabb Bowl Game Anomaly")

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Okay the game was out of reach anyway, but the Jets throwing on their 2 pt attempt from the six inch line was just stupid. Not lining up under center to make them respect the possibilty of a sneak was just stupid.

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Can't they just give them the 2 after consecutive penalties?

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Dear Ted Thompson,

Please forgive us.

Signed,
Every Packer fan, everywhere.

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Fantasy fans everywhere are imploring the chargers to kick a FG here.