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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by RowdyRoddyPiper :: Sun, 10/24/2010 - 11:36pm

Not that I think it should come down to this but on the third to last play, Matthews ripped his helmet off mid play. Is that not a penalty? I remember guts getting flagged for taking their helmet off after the play. Not sure about during.

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by Arkaein :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 12:21am

The only thing I can think of is that his helmet got pushed up into his face a bit when he was chipped by Harvin and/or Shiancoe, and maybe the ref who I assumes was looking at those players thought that maybe Matthews knocked it off accidentally trying to adjust it.

It certainly didn't look like that on replay, but I could see a ref giving the benefit of the doubt in real speed.

It was just such a weird play, since it's not like Matthews gained any advantage through it, other than not having a chin strap across his face, or whatever he thought the problem was.

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by RickD :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 12:25am

From the post-game interview: Favre looks like he should not be playing. He's limping and walking like Fred Sanford.
Trent Dilfer (on ESPN) is sickening in his refusal to listen to any criticism of Favre.
Childress, in his press conference, made some comments to the effect that Favre should not have been throwing into coverage on the left when Harvin was wide open on the right. For some reason, this comment made Dilfer apoplectic.

How many times does Favre get to throw away the game all on his own before it's allowable to publicly call him on his mistakes!

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by Shattenjager :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 1:12am

I'd say about . . . ten more times.

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by tuluse :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 1:47am

Dilfer loves all quarterbacks. You should have heard the excuses he was making for Cassel in week 1. Every throw is one of the most difficult throws a QB can make, and every coverage is excellent and brilliantly disguised.

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by Danish Denver-Fan :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 4:39am

It *was* brilliantly diguised... to Trent Dilfer.

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by andrew :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 11:20pm

Its time to pull Manning out of this game.

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hanging on to a 1 pt lead in my fantasy league, vs an opponent who started a kicker on a bye and didn't start a defense, and he still got over 100 pts (damn Kenny Britt)...

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by Andrew Potter :: Mon, 10/25/2010 - 11:56pm

"Don't go for two until you absolutely have to."

I don't agree with that at all. Two things:
- You're down 12 points with three minutes to go. You will almost certainly HAVE to attempt a two point conversion, so that part of it's moot.
- In that situation, you want to know as early as possible whether you need a touchdown and a field goal or two more touchdowns.

Am I wrong?

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by tuluse :: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:19am

I mostly agree with you, but sometimes it's better to wait for psychological purposes, making your players think they're still in the game.

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Re: Week 7 Open Discussion Thread
by Shattenjager :: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:32am

I would agree. I tend to be an extremist about going for two and going for it on fourth downs, though.

However, there is a nice Two-Point Conversion Chart that says you should go for it in that situation as long as you think you have a 4% chance of getting it.

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