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Re: Week 8 Open Discussion Thread
I want to kill someone for the Chevrolet commercial they show during the games that involves drawing up a football play on screen . . . there are only 4 offensive linemen. It annoys me every time I see it.
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I don't watch Chevrolet commercials as a matter of principle.
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That was an awesome stop by the packrs punter.
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Where's JAX @ TEN when you need it?
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Tenesee is actualy winning that game, and Jax looks lost. Looks like the same Jax team that got destroyed by Seattle.
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The Vikings just marched down the field with absolutely no trouble.
Captcha: advertising blitzed
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Well, it looks like the Packers defense believes it only had to play one quarter. Vikings march down the field for a TD. 14-3 Vikings.
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In other news, Vince Young is 10/12 for 80 yards and a TD. I have to admit I'm sort of rooting for him.
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I'm not, but that's because Kerry Collins won me my first ever fantasy championship basically single-handedly (the year Moss joined the Raiders).
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Vikings QB, if you're going to throw a td pass, at least throw it to adrian peterson, as he's the only viking i have on my FF team.
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The only one I have is Shiancoe. Obviously, [Vikings QB] prefers me to you. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but I'm leaning toward the latter.
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At the kickoff, we can hear they're playing "Born in the USA" in the stadium--should you play such depressing/angry music at a football game?
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But it's patriotic, man! Never mind the words, he's singing about being USA through and through. Booyah!
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I didn't know you were Ronald Reagan!
(I'm hoping it's not a Rule 1 violation to make fun of his not knowing what the song was about--it has no relationship to his politics, so it shouldn't be.)
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See, I view the song as ultimately uplifting. Sure the narrator's life sucks, but he's able to find happiness from living in the USA.
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Explain the painful song-ending scream.
Without just saying, "Of course it's painful--it's Bruce Springsteen."
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I actually like Springsteen. Streets of Philadelphia is one of my favourite songs.
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I meant just his voice, in particular his screaming. I'm not a fan of his anyway, but that's all I meant.
I actually do rather like "Streets of Philadelphia" as well as "Adam Raised a Cain."
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Green with a face plant trying to return the KO. High comedy.
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eff you, jared allen.
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Packers offense trying to outdo their defense in sucktitude. Rodgers sacked, a short run, and a nearly intercepted pass on that series.
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MJD just went 80 yards for a TD and so he's only down to the Titans by 6.
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AD makes Nick Collins look pretty silly. Aikman still praises Collins.
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I could have run through that hole they opened for AD. I have been road kill a second later, but still.
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I couldn't have. But I've been timed in the 40 with a sun dial.
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Actually, that was kinda my point. Satire doesn't come through in writing very well, sometimes.
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It could be worse. Satire doesn't come through on the internet very well, ever.
Well, not quite ever, but it's far more severe online - especially message boards.
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good lord.
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any doubt that the vikings get at least a 1st down if they go for it here?
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Since Childress is going to call the play they use, yes.
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wow. I'm stunned they stopped that.
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It was a great stand.
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Not much talk about the Raiders Bolts game. I'll give an update. It's fixing to be another Oakland blowout and Russell looks terrible once again, 21-7 right before the half.
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I didn't realise any of that was ever in question?
Starting Vincent Jackson this week was the easiest fantasy decision I've made all season (starting Brady over Hasselbeck every week doesn't qualify as a decision).
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I think I cursed Green Bay by suggesting earlier that they were the lone remaining possible party-crasher of the Philly-New Orleans NFC title game.
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Naw, the Packers o-line is made of human turnstiles. As much as I want the [Vikings QB] to lose, I think the Vikings are the better team.
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Russell looks terrible? Inconceivable!
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"You keep saying that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."
:)
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You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Inconceivable!
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And of course I started Rodgers in my FF league, thinking, he'll tear apart the vikings secondary. Well, I forgot the league subtracts 2 pts for each sack...
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Is there anyone here who can keep me updated on the Titans game? I'm curious about how Young is going to do.
I've got my eye on the box score, but is he actually looking as good as his stats show? I guess they're short completions, but they are completions.
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I'm in Minnesota, so needless to say I'm stuck with the Green Bay Orgy. But, I've been paying some attention to that one online--at halftime Young is 11/13 for 87 yards and a TD and he has 8 carries for 26 yards.
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Of course with Childress, anything is possible for this last two minutes...
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Is it sad that I'm tempted to watch the Raiders suck at the Chargers so I don't have to listen to announcers suck up to Favre?
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No. I'm disappointed I had the early CBS game.
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What's more sad is that it's understandable.
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I wish I had the choice.
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I'm glad I'm not playing a drinking game where you have to drink everytime they drop the f-bomb.
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They are actually pretty much calling the game instead of going over the fact that HE played here for 45 years.
You can overdo it, and I think they're trying not to.
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I hate to admit it, but I actually think Aikman handles [Vikings QB] better than just about any announcer. Maybe because he's the only one who has been that kind of iconic player to a franchise?
Captcha: penalized oboists
Whoa. I just hope Iva Davies isn't one of them--he is awesome.
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The Question for the Ages: Is JaMarcus Russell actually worse than Spergon Wynn?
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I'm troubled by a deeper question:
Is Derek Anderson actually worse than JaMarcus Russell?
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I have a hard time believing that anything could be worse than Russell.
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So do I, but yeesh Anderson is horrendous.
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I had to see that guy play football for the Amsterdam Admirals... that guy could throw a 3rd quarter of football, but for the rest he was worthless.
Right now, they're poor CFL/UFL football QBs.
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Jimmy Johnson: If the Packers had watched out pre-game show, they'd have known all they have to do is protect Rodgers.
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I decided to play zelda during halftime. Twilight princess is an appropriate game, no?
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LOL!
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Crazy statline of the week:
Maurice Jones-Drew: 5 rush for 172 yards, 2 TD.
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I am troubled by the prospect that someone laced my keyboard with LSD and what I am watching is not actually real.
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Meh, you're playing the Cardinals in November. Only difference to last year is they haven't sewn the division up yet. ;)
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We're also starting the league-leading turnover machine quarterback, though. Kind of expected a slightly different score.
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Are they actually using him as a quarterback, or is he bidding to become the league's leading handoff machine? I actually expected Carolina to at least keep it close if not win outright as long as he was handing off repeatedly.
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At this point, it's purely handoffs. He's only had ten passes. However, Delhomme is the Jason Vorhees of football. He can strike at any time.
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No worries man. It's the bad Cardinals this week.
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Harvin makes another big return. He's a scary returner.
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Don't you mean scary fast?
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I don't think he really is that fast. He's very quick and elusive and he runs tough, but he's not Devin Hester-Randy Moss-Steve Smith (Car) type of fast.
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Bernard Berrian is getting checked out. The Vikings appear to be trying to set a record for most people playing injured on one team.
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And, TMQ writes "Game over" in his note book.
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W.T.F.?!? Favre makes an absolutely, completely textbook Favrian chuck the ball into triple coverage. Two out of the three guys in coverage run into each other, Harvin makes the catch and runs it into the end zone. Keystone Cops, indeed.
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Break out the "Yakkety Sax" sound track.
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Going Raiders/Chargers to avoid Favre mentions backfired big time. That was painful stupid.
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So, are the Packers actually this bad or is this just a bad game?
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Their o-line is pretty bad due to injuries and Rodgers tends to hold on to the ball too long. The Packers looked good the last two weeks because they played the Lions and the Chiefs. Plus, the Vikings have a very good football team. The Saints, Eagles, and Vikings are probably the top three teams in the NFC right now.
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I'm starting to think that Aaron Rodgers is Craig Morton
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Packers use a time out less than five minutes into the second half. It almost makes me cry when I see that happen.
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Pat Williams has been playing well the last few weeks, but Kevin Williams still just doesn't look as good as previous years.
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Bad fumble gives the Packers the ball in Vikings territory.
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Packers capitalize with a TD! 24-13 Vikings.
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yep, mike mccarthy, field goals are gonna win you this game...although i guess you're only down 2 tds and...wait...
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wow.
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Rodgers throws a bullet into the endzone and now the Packers have a little bit of life.
Oddly, Todd Rundgren begins playing in the stadium.
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Packers force a three and out and nearly intercept batted passes on consecutive plays.
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Speaking of 2004, Ahman Green with a decent run.
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Run after the catch, I mean, sorry.
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MJD- 7 carries, 179 yds, 2tds
C. Johnson- 20carries, 220 yds, 2tds
That has to be some ridiculous, bad defense.
I actually wish I was watching that.
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Their TDs have come on 4 carries for 300 yards; other than that they have 23 for 99 yds.
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4 carries of 50 yards or more in one game? That's piss poor defense from both teams.
Plus, 99/23=4.3 yds/carry. Still not great defense.
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I think it was Butch Davis for the Browns, but it might have been some other coach vs some other RB - that he didn't think his run defense against Jamal Lewis's 295-yard day was so terrible, because if you took away the two 60+ yard TDs, they held him right at 5 yards per carry.
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Arizona fans very loudly cheering the fact that Jake Delhomme is injured and in a lot of pain, even as the play is over and he's writhing on the ground. pretty disgusting...
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ugh. these games always seem to come down to the last possession anyway, so what i should have done was wait and start watching during the fourth quarter.
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Did you remember to start Chris Johnson? He's now got 220 yards and 2 TDs. On 20 carries.
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Where has this Packers offense been? Watching the Favrecam?
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After all, Chris Berman told us before the only reason the Jets have won any games this year is that [Vikings QB] was there last year, so perhaps Green Bay can only win games if they watch his dedicated cam.
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Wait, what?
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10304388/NFL-on-FOX:-Follow-Favre-Bow...
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A few weeks ago, when people were all jumping on the Jets bandwagon, Berman said, "They're winning now because [Vikings QB] was there last year. He tought them how to win."
Seriously.
Is saying that it will make the Packers win if they watch his cam any less logical? I don't think so.
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I shouldn't be surprised because Berman is one of the stupidest people to ever live, but damn, that's stupid.
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To be fair to him, it was pretty obvious that they were supposed to fill some more time before a commercial and Tom Jackson just had nothing (and it was only the two of them), but I just can't forgive such a ridiculous statement.
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When does Tom Jackson ever have anything?
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Well . . . okay, never. I just don't want to pick on him. He played for my Broncos and he was good. Plus I love that he regularly says things like, "You couldn't pay me enough to play for the Raiders." Most talking heads, especially with Madden gone, don't properly respect the intensity of that rivalry.
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So, are we going to have to hear all week about how Vince Young Just Wins Games?
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havner. again.
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This has been a great comeback so far, but why didn't they go for two?
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ok, so while i was playing zelda, the packers have been playing better. well, that's it, gonna just do that again for a while.
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Thanks. I'll take all the help we can get. :-)
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Hmm. In one fantasy league, I benched Donovan McNabb in favor of David Garrard. That's looking like a Hall of Fame-level bad decision.
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Yea, probably wasn't a good idea.
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Garrard-5.76 points
McNabb-21.10 points
I think I'm going to lose by more than 15, but still . . . yuck.
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Can't the announcers just say, "[Vikings QB] is good" instead of every time making the argument against a straw man that the Vikings are better off for having him?
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I don't know. I think the Vikings are better with Favre.
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Does anyone say differently, though?
And yet they keep "proving" every week that they're right--the Vikings are better. (And of course, they're really just proving every time that the Vikings are better this year than last year, not that it's due to the QB.)
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...and I flip back just in time for the jennings td.
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And that was an amazing catch.
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Rule Question - if a 2pt conversion is intercepted and returned for a TD, what happens?
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The two point conversion is unsuccessful.
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I think it's two points for the defense, just like in college football.
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I don't believe so. I believe they whistle it dead because it's just an unsuccessful two-point conversion.
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I'm pretty sure this is right.
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I'm 100% sure this is right. I've seen it happen, which was immensely entertaining.
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DHB and Louis Murphy just ran into each other, wiping each other out of a key play. Haha!
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Ironically, Russell has actually been okay today. For all the times he's tried to shift blame for his craptacular performances to his receivers, this time it really is largely their fault.
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Should have been a 2 point conversion, except Ryan suddenly loses his ability to catch a football.
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And they pulled within 5 earlier and thought it was a better idea to kick the extra point (which I complained about) to get within 4, so why now is it a better idea to go for two? McCarthy, your lack of mathematical skills has left you dead to me.
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The replay shows that it was deflected by Kevin Williams' Popeye arms.
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So I'm sitting with my girlfriend helping her with an essay instead of watching the Vikings-Packers game.
I go away for like 15 minutes to look over her essay, and I come back.
The score goes from being 24-6 to 31-26.
Can anybody tell me what happened?
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Green Bay discovered offense.
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The Packers have suddenly improved their protection. I don't see any reason for it being so much better, but it has been. And then Rodgers has made a few plays by escaping and the Vikings coverage is, as always, pretty poor.
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BS roughing call on Vikings' Ray Edwards and somehow Driver is down. I don't see anything getting bent or twisted wrong or anything but he's just sitting up now.
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Driver is able to walk to the sideline and looks ok, so I guess we're at the mercy of the announcers (ACK!) to find out what's wrong there.
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Now he's back in. And for the second straight week, we see someone decide the proper way to block Jared Allen is not to.
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Damn, DD down?
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Looks like he had the wind knocked out of him.
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Kick Early , Go for it Late -- it's obvious McCarthy has read too much TMQ
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Cmon, princess, one more TAINT, just for old time's sake...although if I'm going to go w/ the zelda analogy, that would make Rodgers Link, wouldn't it?
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No such luck. Favre to Berrian. 38-26 Vikings.
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Haven't GB burned their timeouts in ununsual ways this 2nd half?
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And here comes Childress running the ball and playing for the field goal.
Sigh.
Just once, it might be nice to play to win the game rather than not to lose it.
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Obviously, you misunderstand the genius that is Childress.
Or perhaps he is in fact, as he seems, a complete imbecile who has no business coaching a professional football team and the Eagles are still snickering with delight to be rid of him.
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I'm still waiting for Childress to lose this game.
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Green Bay also seems to have given up on the run and, for them, that's probably a good thing.
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And now they obviously HAVE to pass.
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Do you think GB gave up the long run to AP with about 5 minutes left on purpose? Maybe not, but I wonder if defenses ever give up a few extra yards at the end of the game to limit the other team's time of possession. (SF could've done that vs Indianapolis to have a better chance of getting the ball back.)
Of course, you have to hold them to a FG in that Min-GB situation for the strategy to work....
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To be clear, that's not what I was saying when I posted--I meant they gave up on the run at the start of the second half.
I don't think they gave up on that one, but I think defenses do that. In fact, the Packers claim, whether it's true or not, that they did so in the Super Bowl against Denver. Since it took a few days before they started claiming that, I doubt the veracity of their claim (and it's going to be hard to do that, because you have to overcome all of your usual on-field instincts), but I would all but guarantee that it's done.
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F.U. Princess.
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Let's see, GB blitzes, MIN scores, TMQ writes game over in that lil' book of his?
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Pretty much goes to show that really any of us could do what he does, right?
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All you have to do is read the column a couple of times and then anyone could, really. I loved TMQ the first time I read it (through FO), but then I continued to read it and see the same things over and over. It's kind of sad, because he obviously had some interesting thoughts once upon a time and then just gave up. And he throws in so many awful, unbelievably bad misunderstandings of science that it makes me cringe.
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Game over.
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I have never heard someone suggest that [Vikings QB] quit hanging out in bars and "doing the things that a young adult likes to do" when he got married before. In fact, I've always understood it to be the case that he continued such acts for some time after he got married. Oh well, I suppose it's too much to ask that announcers recognize that no matter how good of a player he is, he's a deplorable person.
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Oh? I guess you have some kind of inside knowledge? This isn't Brandon Marshall we're talking about. What kind of personal insight do you have into the man?
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Because it's well-known that I've lived with Brandon Marshall for 15 years, yes, I see your point.
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So, can anyone who watched the Carolina-Arizona game explain what happened to Warner?
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My theory is that those of us who experienced it got teleported into some kind of vortex that was opened during Turnover Siesta I, last year, during the playoffs, and was only shut today.
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He played a home game. Apparently the football gods have performed a logical
NOT on the Cards' psyche this year such that they rule on the road, and suck toads at home.
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It really was about as un-bad a performance as you can have while throwing five interceptions. From memory, one pass was tipped, one he was hit from the blindside as he threw, one was a slight overthrow on an ok decision where the safety made up an incredible amount of ground to get there, one was a screen where the LT made just enough of a half-assed block on Julius Peppers that he appeared right in the ball's flightpath at exactly the right time to jump up and grab it at full stretch, and one was a deep throw forced at the end of the game when a miracle was required for victory. I do think one reason Warner's INT numbers have always been high is that he carries on trying to win games when the chances of doing so are 1 in a thousand or less, where a lot of other guys (and coaches) would just give up. Also the Cardinals offensive line was getting killed all day.
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When the Panthers play the Cardinals, you never know who's going to throw 5 interceptions.
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So, no sunday night game because of the world series?
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Lame, right? It would have been great to watch a random regular season Sunday night game beat the crap out of the World Series in the television rankings.
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Elam misses. Clearly, a work of terrorists. Someone should write a novel about it.
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I turned on the game just to see the score just in time to see that kick, so I immediately thought, "I must go make some sort of joke related to the book on FO."
I think I'm going to laugh every time I see, hear of, or think about Jason Elam for the rest of my life.
Well, I already did, but that's because my father is still insisting he's a first-ballot Hall of Famer; now, it's because of the book.