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17 Nov 2005

Boller Fires Back at Sharpe

Here's Shannon Sharpe on his radio show Monday: "Boller plays just good enough to get himself cut and [the coach] fired - which is a lose-lose situation."

Here's Kyle Boller in today's Baltimore Sun: "I've got my teammates behind me ... I need to listen to those people. It doesn't matter what Shannon Sharpe says. That doesn't mean anything to me."

Yes, it's easy to blame Boller, but it's not his fault that Jamal Lewis suddenly turned into a pumpkin, and the offensive line has decided that blocking people is optional. (free registration/bugmenot required)

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 17 Nov 2005

34 comments, Last at 18 Nov 2005, 5:22pm by Becephalus

Comments

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by Diamond Joe (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 11:27am

Next time someone "fires back" at Sharp I hope they're using live ammo.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 11:46am

Ya'know, one can conclude that Sharpe is obnoxious without hoping that he suffer a gunshot wound or worse, and as nutty as some members of the general public are, it probably is the type of hyperbolic sentiment that is better left unexpressed.

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by Ron Mexico (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 12:19pm

Guns are the Ravens' style, anyways. Knives are...

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by Jerry F. (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 12:29pm

He didn't actually say he was firing back. That was just the headline. I think using "fires back" in discussion of retorts has been common enough for long enough that nobody needs to worry about misinterpretation.

It's a figurative metaphor.

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by Richard (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 12:32pm

#4, #2 was referring to #1, not the summary's content.

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by Jerry F. (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 12:40pm

oh.

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by Israel (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 12:56pm

#4, #2 was referring to #1, not the summary’s content.

And I understood #1 to be referring to Kyle Boller's inability to fire anything but blanks in his game.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 1:20pm

Not to belabor it, Israel, but #1 refers to "someone", not Boller, using live ammunition on Sharpe. In today's world, it's the kinda' thing that is best avoided.

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by Ron Mexico (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 1:22pm

Whoops... #3 is supposed to be:

"Guns aren't the Ravens' style."

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by Diamond Joe (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 1:35pm

Hey Will!
Where's the sense of humor?

I always used to say that the Battle of the Network Stars should have been fought with real guns, but it was only a joke!
(I ususally didn't have to explain that it was only a joke), everyone got it.
But, in your case, I'll say it - it was just a joke.

By the way, you aren't a Falcons fan, are you?

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 2:47pm

It’s a figurative metaphor

what other kind is there?

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by Francisco (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 2:55pm

The highly unpopular literal metaphor, which leads to confusion and sometimes tears.

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 3:04pm

which leads to confusion and sometimes tears.

sometimes tears what? the very fabric of the universe?

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by Jerry F. (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 3:43pm

The "figurative metaphor" was a reference to the terrible Patriots Visa ad. I guess I can see here that, much like metaphors, jokes and pop culture references aren't always interpreted as such.

Actually, I thought Joe's response was metaphorical as well, a critique of Boller's tepid response to Sharpe's comments.

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by MJK (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:13pm

By they way, what would be an example of a nonfigurative metaphor? Aren't metaphors by definition figurative?

I guess it's kind of like "big government spending" or "hard hitting" football player. I love it when an announcer refers to someone as "hard hitting", implying that all the other guys hit nice and gently.

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by BlueStarDude (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:19pm

If #1 were phrased a bit differently, like "Next time someone 'fires back' at Sharp I hope they [at least have some] ammo," then it could pass as a continuation of the metaphor. But "Live ammo" puts the emphasis back on the literal level - which actually is a nice move in so far as it upends the cliche. And even though it's obviously a joke, it's just as obviously one of questionable taste. Not one that I would feel compelled to comment on, but I can certainly see why someone would.

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by mawbrew (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:23pm

Re:14

It would have been difficult for Boller to respond more strongly without looking silly. Nobody needs Shannon Sharpe telling them to realize that Boller's career performance has not been adequate. I'm sure even Boller knows this.

He can't counter Sharpe's criticism by referencing the quality of his play so Boller, unfortunately, is left with a fairly weak response. At least he didn't cover his ears and start screaming 'Nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you.'

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by Kibbles (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:35pm

Re #13: That's tears the noun, not tears the verb. As in those things that leak from your tear ducts when you cry.

Re Kyle Boller: Here's a thought. How about you worry about people whose opinion actually impacts your life, rather than people who are paid to criticise football players. Either that or just play better. Sharpe had a point, you know.

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by DMP (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:40pm

Maybe next time Boller should shoot Sharpe’s shapely sugar-loaf and surely shank his shin. That would take care of the guns, the knives, the metaphors, and would throw in alliteration… you know, for fun.

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:45pm

For those of you just showing up, #1 inferred that Sharp should be shot, after which #2 took issue with #1. #4 said it could continue the metaphor of the article, but #5 told #4 #2 was referring to #1, at which point #7 disagreed with #5's point about #2's comment about #1. #8 jumped in to disagree with #7, but #9 was all like, "Hey, #3, I wanna correct this," even though he was the same person! #10 made peace with #2, and #11 defended #4. #12 clarified #11, #13 made #12 make some more sense, and #14 said, "You go, girl," to #4. #16 was all like, "#1 wussup?" and #17 regarded #14 quite respectfully.

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by putnamp (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 5:03pm

#20, Truly, you are a master.

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by Jay B. (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 5:16pm

What the ####?

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by Diamond Joe (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 5:46pm

I just realized this is the 3rd issue that a player had because of some big mouth that's not in the league anymore. 1st Chris Carter called Chad Pennington out regarding his shoulder injury and he became critical and it was probably uncalled for. Then Irvin spouts off about Brett favre being so much better than McNabb, T.O. agrees with him, and we all know how that went.
Now Shannon Sharpe becomes the big mouth and starts trouble with Boller (like he doesn't already have enough issues). You would think these guys would be a bit more supportive of the players considering they are former players themselves.

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by Israel (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 5:47pm

#20 - Well you surely didn't think anyone was going to have a serious f.o.-worthy discusion of what Kyle Boller thinks of Shannon Sharpe's criticism, did you?

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by Vash (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 6:14pm

#3:
But where was Ray Lewis when Joey Porter got shot?

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by MCS (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 8:05pm

LOL. Welcome Back Basilicus.

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by MCS (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 8:08pm

BTW, Diamond Joe has a very valid comment. What is driving these ex-players to call out current players?

Maybe I don't hear it, but I like the way Moose acts. He uses his football knowledge to provide insightful analysis in the booth. He doesn't pretend to be some kind of locker room leader.

Is there some kind of demand from people who want to see talking heads calling current players out? I think that the networks are condoning this activity for some reason.

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by Björn (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 8:18pm

"I can go down the list of great quarterbacks that have gotten booed." -Kyle Boller

I'm sure you can, Kyle. Problem is, those guys are great. You are terrible.

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by SJM (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 9:27pm

Wow. I think this is the dumbest thread I have ever seen on FO.

Considering the (presumed) above average intelligence of FO fans, this is a real accomplishment. As real as Terrell Owens's 100th touchdown. Where are the fireworks and the fancy Jumbo-Tron display, Aaron? Why do you have to disrespect us? Where's Rodney Harrison when you need him!?

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by bobman (not verified) :: Fri, 11/18/2005 - 2:54am

This IS a pretty dumb thread, but it's a lull in the week, so here goes: #20 is genius. Your next assignment: world peace.

#23, you left out one other Cris Carter remark of genius, when he stated that the whole Panthers cheerleaders sex in the bathroom episode would not have happened if the league just let players and cheerleaders date. UM... um, okay, sure.

This one was even too dumb for Sharpe.

And regarding "firing back"... so back in 1981 or so, when Pat Benatar sang "Hit me with your best shot, fire away," she was actually pleading to be executed by a single, well-placed bullet? Wow. My high school years suddenly got a whole lot creepier. I thought it was something else entirely. What other lyrics have I missed the boat on...? Lucy in the Sky? She's a Brick House? This could take decades of therapy to work out. Thanks a whole lot!

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by FastEddy (not verified) :: Fri, 11/18/2005 - 3:04am

What do you mean SJM #29? This is one of the greatest threads ever. It has humor, pathos, screeds, pathos, and lots of stuff. I laughed, I cried, I fell down.

As for #23, I believe there was at least a 4th incident. The ex-player who went into the Philly locker room and implied that T.O. was faking his ankle injury.

I like Sterling Sharpe better anyway. Have you SEEN the guy on NFL Network? He rants and raves for 8 minutes at a time and at the end you have no idea what he was talking about. It was something about football, but what, exactly? No one knows...

Except Butch Davis of course, who says, Absolutely, you're correct...

And they're speculating about Butch taking over from Billick on the Ravens. Yeah, baby, that gets my vote.

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by Ben Roethlisberger (not verified) :: Fri, 11/18/2005 - 3:30am

This isn't anything new. Shannon Sharpe's been on the Kyle Boller Project's case since he entered the league. My favorite Sharpe quote ever came from, if I recall, late last year:

"I have a better chance of winning the Kentucky Derby on a donkey than the Ravens have of winning the Super Bowl with Kyle Boller as their quarterback."

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by Browns Dude (not verified) :: Fri, 11/18/2005 - 5:23am

Insult Sharpe all you want but no one works harder to try and speak english clearly.

Horseface bastid.

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by Becephalus (not verified) :: Fri, 11/18/2005 - 5:22pm

I like Shannon Sharpe, he was a good NFL player, Boller, not so much. I wonder who Boller will be backing up next year? Anyone else worried that Harrington may be starting for the Vikings in 2006?