Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

09 Nov 2005

Can't Corner the Market

It's not good when your secondary is so abysmal the local paper throws around names like octogenarians Terrell Buckley and Bobby Taylor as possible replacements. It's also worth noting that during a radio interview earlier this week, Rodney Harrison called out Duane Starks for, well, not being very good.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 09 Nov 2005

23 comments, Last at 11 Nov 2005, 3:08pm by ABW

Comments

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by little red tractor (not verified) :: Wed, 11/09/2005 - 9:54pm

Haven't understood the apparent reluctance to utilise Troy Brown like last season.

If not, another option is Tom Brady, a far more effective potential corner back than Manning.

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by ABW (not verified) :: Wed, 11/09/2005 - 10:20pm

So what happens when Rodney Harrison disrespects someone else? Does it turn into some kind of weird feedback loop where both Harrison and Starks will keep getting more and more disrespected until they both explode in some kind of disrespect supernova? Or does Harrison somehow transfer his disrespect juju to Starks, and so by being disrespected, Starks will take his game to the next level like Harrison?

No, that's just wishful thinking. Darn.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 12:57am

Did I read that right? They're looking at a cornerback that was just cut by the Vikings, on the same day they announced that starting CB Fred Smoot has a broken collarbone and is out 4-6 weeks?

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by Israel (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 2:12am

Does it turn into some kind of weird feedback loop

Maybe the beatpaths guy can make something of that.

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by Sergio (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 5:07am

This is clearly the opportunity for Miami to torch the Patriots. Marino will simply kill them this week. Wait... Gus what?!

(sob)(sob)

Seriously, though, can Miami take advantadge of this? At all?

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by Capt Trips (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 10:13am

If Miami stepped up and knocked off the Broncos, well, why not the Pats?

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 11:59am

Word out of Boston is that Starks will be placed on IR today or tomorrow.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 12:05pm

Maybe the Pats can trade for Deion Sanders!

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by Catholic Samurai (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 12:06pm

RE #2:

It works in the way that the Living Monolith works. Harrison will continue to fill up with some much disrespect that he will become the size of a small moon, in which case W will have to call in the Avengers, X-Men and possible the Fantastic Four to deal with him.

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by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 12:51pm

#7: Wha? What injury? Chronic inability to play football?

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 12:53pm

Annnnnnd it's official. Starks is on IR.

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by Glenn (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 2:02pm

The millisecond that Harrison made those comments about Starks was when you knew that Starks' fate was sealed. There is no possible way that Harrison would have made those comments about a current teammate....unless, of course, Harrison knew that he would soon be a former teammate.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 2:07pm

Some interesting notes from Reiss's blog, which together sound like Frerotte has a chance at a career day this Sunday:
* Pats have used a different defensive backfield combo in every game:
Game 1: Samuel-Poole-Harrison-Wilson
Game 2: Samuel-Gay-Harrison-Wilson
Game 3: Samuel-Starks-Harrison-Wilson
Game 4: Samuel-Starks-Harrison-Wilson
Game 5: Samuel-Starks-G. Scott-Wilson
Game 6: Samuel-Starks-Sanders-Wilson
Game 7: Samuel-Starks-Freeman-Wilson
Game 8: Samuel-Starks-Gay-Wilson

* Gay suffered an injury in the Indy game that caused him to have to leave the game.

* Troy Brown hasn't practiced on D at all this year.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 2:09pm

Whoops! Seven combinations in eight games, I meant.

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by ABW (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 2:32pm

Oh good, so both of the free-agent cornerbacks the Patriots picked up this year are now on IR with injuries related to sucking too much. And Gay has been injured again. Oy. Well, at least the only good offense we have to play for the rest of the year is KC.

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by MCS (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 5:44pm

Joey Thomas is available

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by CaffeineMan (not verified) :: Thu, 11/10/2005 - 6:02pm

Sergio and ABW, those comments are a stitch.

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by Kibbles (not verified) :: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 4:27am

Oh hey, what a shocker! An article about cornerbacks that made some use of the phrase "corner the market"! OH WOW I NEVER SAW THIS COMING!

Seriously, I'm assuming all of these "journalists" have educations, degrees, something. I'm operating under the assumption that these newspapers aren't just filled with stories written by Mrs. Johnson's 7th grade class. You would think that they could come up with a title for an article without simply recycling the same tired old schtick.

Seriously, take Emo for instance. It's an entire genre written by quasi-angstful teenagers (I'm allowed to say it, since I'm just a couple of years removed from being a quasi-angstful teenager, myself). Every single song deals with exactly the same topic in exactly the same manner. Most of the artists have a high school education, if that... but even THEY can come up with unique song titles.

Anyway, on the subject of the article... Denver will be releasing Lenny Walls in a couple of weeks. New England could do a lot worse. Denver thought highly enough of him that he started a full season for them, was scheduled to start all of last season (got derailed by injuries), and they let Kelly Herndon (a very solid CB) go to keep Walls around. Which is why I'm so puzzled that they're letting him go without at least attempting to get compensation for him. Seriously, they had to have been able to ship him off around the trade deadline for at least a fifth or sixth rounder. He's an undrafted free agent playing out the final season of his rookie contract, so it's not like other teams didn't have the cap room to take him on, either. Regardless, I have a feeling New England will make a concerted run on him, although their record might be too good to get him (their waiver priority will be too low). I suspect Walls will set a new record for number of teams making a waiver claim (I believe Kevin Johnson set the old record two years ago when he got released by... Cleveland? and picked up by Jacksonville).

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by Dark Star (not verified) :: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 10:01am

Hey, making a run on someone is bad enough. A "concerted" run! My God Man! What B.S.!

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 10:57am

Today's Globe claims that (a) the Pats will try to pick up another CB by Sunday, (b) whoever he his will likely be at the bottom of the depth chart, and (c) Rookie Ellis Hobbs is gonna start Sunday.

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by CaffeineMan (not verified) :: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 2:28pm

Kibbles, doesn't Walls have some kind of injury?

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by Starshatterer (not verified) :: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 2:32pm

PatsFan (#20 )--

Let's play hangman (I'll spot you an E, an A, an R, an N, and a D):

E_r____nd M_re__nd

I mean, who better to back up Hank Poteat?

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by ABW (not verified) :: Fri, 11/11/2005 - 3:08pm

Walls does have some kind of injury, I think a groin strain of some kind, but he's expected to recover and under terms of the injured/reserve list you can't keep a guy who's healthy on there, so he has to be released this week I believe.

I would rather see Walls than Earthwind Moreland, but honestly the the difference between one of those two and Hobbs isn't going to change the fact that the whole defense needs to start playing better.

Click on my name for details about Walls' status.