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27 Sep 2005

Cards Agree to Deal with Davey

Geez, what a week for injuries. First Vinny Testaverde goes to the Jets, and now Rohan Davey signs with the Cardinals. While it's been good for free agents looking for work, guys like Billy Volek, Patrick Ramsey, Tommy Maddox, and Charlie Batch are left holding the clipboard because the price of poker just went up for all those teams looking for an emergency starter.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 27 Sep 2005

12 comments, Last at 29 Sep 2005, 8:55am by Moe

Comments

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by David (not verified) :: Tue, 09/27/2005 - 10:07pm

With the luck quarterbacks are having recently, Tennessee's front office would have to be very, very drunk to trade Volek, what with Steve McNair's limbs being held together by bubblegum and duct tape.

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by Paul (not verified) :: Tue, 09/27/2005 - 10:18pm

Roethlisberger hasn't exactly been pain free this season. One hit could put him on the bench for an extended period of time. Both Maddox and Batch are serviceable, but I don't see either of them going anywhere unless a team coughs up appropriate compensation. Either of them (likely Maddox) is one hard hit away from leading the Steelers. Batch is one hard hit and one moderate hit on Maddox from seeing regular playing time. All these other injuries should be a bright sign to keep a good backup, preferably two (see also: Jets)

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Tue, 09/27/2005 - 10:52pm

McNair is due a $50 million roster bonus next year. So he will obviously be cut or have significant renegotiations.

Tennessee would be insane to deal Volek given that and McNair's injury history.

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Tue, 09/27/2005 - 11:00pm

I'm sorry, $50 million? Actually, I thought re-signing Volek - what was it, a year and a half ago - was the best move of the entire off-season.

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by KnickerBlogger (not verified) :: Tue, 09/27/2005 - 11:24pm

Too bad, I was hoping the Jets would have signed him. First because he was the NFLE MVP, and second because he was a member of the Patriots for a few years & might have some insights that way.

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by Joey (not verified) :: Wed, 09/28/2005 - 12:21am

No idea why the Cardinals didn't have anybody as a backup. Warner's not exactly Brett Favre. Another team that seems to be playing with fire (oddly, after a recent history of having a solid backup): the Broncos. Not only is Brad Van Pelt Plummer's backup...he's the only other QB on the roster.

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by marc (not verified) :: Wed, 09/28/2005 - 12:30am

This isn't madden, you can't just sign a guy and keep going as usual. In the real world without going through camp with the team there is virtually no chance of a free agent or trade QB playing well in the middle of the season on a new team. Besides, the QBs that actually make a difference on their own aren't going anywhere anyway. If AJ Feeley went for a 2nd round pick, just imagine what it would take to pry an actual worthwhile QB from a team.
If 32 GMs went into the season thinking that each of the 2-3 QBs on their roster was a better option than Davey, Testaverde, etc, why should anyone on earth honestly expect anything at all out of these guys?

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by Jeff F (not verified) :: Wed, 09/28/2005 - 3:16am

So, Davey is going to be the 3rd string QB in Arizona. I don't think that says anything positive about his capabilites at all. He was ineffective on the Patriots, I can't imagine how he will do behind that offensive line.

Volek is amongst the top 3 or 4 backups in the NFL, and could damn well improve over half the QBs that ARE starting. He has the advantage of being an effective veteran backup, has been groomed as a replacement for McNair, and won't have to learn a new system when he makes the leap. He'll fare a LOT better than if he were shuffled to another team to play, in all likelyhood.

If McNair doesn't retire after this year, where will he end up playing? Baltimore, Arizona, Miami, New York (Jets), Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, and Green Bay are teams that could well see some turnover at the QB position next year.

With the injuries coming along at this rate, it'll be Matt Cassel leading the Patriots against the Craig Krenzel led Bengals for the AFC championship ;)

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by mawbrew (not verified) :: Wed, 09/28/2005 - 9:02am

Re: 2

I've got to believe the Steelers would let go of Batch for a decent offer. But it's been so long since he's actually played, that nobody is going to take the risk on him. Actually, given Big Ben's rise last year, I'm surprised Batch has stayed with the Steelers. Lots of other teams would offer a much better opportunity to actually play.

Re: 7

Ever heard of Don Strock?

A couple of things to keep in mind about Vinny not being signed before now. A number of those 32 teams are reserving roster spots for young QBs they are hoping develop. They may have felt Vinny was better (today) than their young QB, but felt it was important to hold onto the young guy for the future. Second some teams seem overly committed to avoiding a QB controversy (Ravens come to mind) and are unwilling to sign anyone that might 'threaten' the chosen one.

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by kjbad (not verified) :: Thu, 09/29/2005 - 1:18am

re: 8

The Cardinals used every QB on the roster last season, Davey will likely see field time at #3 the way they are playing on offense - McCown is not invulnerable, and Warner only lasted 2 1/2 games. All of their QBs except John Navarre have 1-year deals, so AZ will definitely have a new QB at the end of this year.
If the Cardinals are smart, they will make a long-term offer to Drew Brees the second SD franchises him....

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by kjbad (not verified) :: Thu, 09/29/2005 - 1:20am

re: 8

The Cardinals used every QB on the roster last season, Davey will likely see field time at #3 the way they are playing on offense - McCown is not invulnerable, and Warner only lasted 2 1/2 games. All of their QBs except John Navarre have 1-year deals, so AZ will definitely have a new QB at the end of this year.
If the Cardinals are smart, they will make a long-term offer to Drew Brees the second SD franchises him....

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by Moe (not verified) :: Thu, 09/29/2005 - 8:55am

I wonder if a team like the Vikings with Brad Johnson get any serious inquries at times like this. If you think you have a good durable starter might you not be tempted to deal your number two if the offer were good enough?

To answer my own question - since none of the teams desperate for a QB really seemed to going anywhere what they would offer would probably not be worth the risk of having Shaun Hill as your backup. But it is still interesting to ask at what point would you start thinking about it. Would a 2 round pick be worth it? How bout a 2 and a minor player?