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20 Oct 2005

Chiefs-Dolphins Moved to Friday

Because of Hurricane Wilma, the Kansas City at Miami game has been moved to 7pm on Friday night. TV details still being worked out, but I assume the game will be on CBS in those two cities and unavailable elsewhere. I seem to remember complaints that Sunday Ticket did not show last year's two hurricane-affected Miami games.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 20 Oct 2005

32 comments, Last at 23 Oct 2005, 11:53am by Zac

Comments

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by MDS (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 1:52pm

Now that the NFL has established the precedent of taking teams' home games away when a hurricane hits their city, why not just move it to Arrowhead? That would seem to be a lot safer than asking players recuperating from Sunday bumps and bruises to play with less than 36 hours' notice when they thought they had a full three more days.

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by MAW (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 1:59pm

Better yet, move it to Giants Stadium.

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by Russell (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:04pm

When the Dolphins played their home opener on a Saturday last year, the game was only shown live in the markets of the two teams. Sunday Ticket aired it at 1 p.m. Sunday, but that was because of an obscure law forbidding NFL broadcasts during college football. Don't know if it will apply on a Friday night.

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:12pm

that's good though--each team has an excuse if they lose ("hey, it threw off all our preparation")

never underestimate the value of a good excuse

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by Eric (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:19pm

The Chiefs should be screaming for the game to be in KC...you are right..precedent has been set with the NYG/NO game.

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by Richie (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:42pm

I think the game should be played in Giants Stadium, because that is the precedent that has been set. New York always finds a way to get weaseled in to every issue.

Every time I turn on "Coach Speak" on the NFL Channel, Herm Edwards is talking. Does NFL Channel realize there are people who don't care about the Jets?

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by benjy (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:47pm

no there aren't.

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by Dennis (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:50pm

Re #1: That's not the precedent that has been set. The precedent that has been set is if a hurricane damages a stadium (and a city) so that it is impossible to play there and there is not enough time to find a site for the game, then it's played in the visitor's stadium.

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by bobman (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 2:59pm

RE #2
MAW, they can't move it to Giants stadium because that would give the Saints two "home games" on the same day, clearly an impossibility that would cause the time-space continuum to fold in on itself and end the world as we know it.

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by Yuri (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 3:11pm

I have no comment on the hurricane game, but 2 other schedule-related questions

1) Why is there no Sunday night game this week? The Miami-KC game was the afternoon matchup originally, right?

2) I thought New Yorkers had it bad, with basically only Jersey/A or Jersey/B games to choose from... but this weekend in Chicago we are treated to the following:

- Colts vs Texans (undefeated vs winless... suitable viewing ONLY for the most bloodthirsty Colts fan)
- Packers vs Vikings (2-8 combined record)
- Bears vs Baltimore. OK there's no choice here since you have to broadcast the home team's game, and it's probably the best option available. However--not only are both teams 2-3, but this game is followed by "Prison Break" on FOX, so you can imagine the self-promotions we will be subjected to w/o pity... HIS FATHER IS A DISTRICT ATTORNEY!!!!! OK I am in a time warp here...

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by houlie (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 3:14pm

no sunday nighter because of the world series, right? I thought anyway, but i may be wrong about this, I am a canadian.

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by B (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 3:16pm

Re #10: Cause of baseball. There's never a sunday night game the first weekend of the World Series.

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by Yuri (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 3:23pm

World Series, eh? Since I can't find the strength to care about baseball, this little event completely escaped my memory. (well, not exactly, but living in Chicago it's fun to see how many White Sox fans suddenly appeared from nowhere).

Also, just double-checked and realized that the Bears game is on CBS (sigh of relief... now I will only learn about the gruesome cases those pesky crime-solvers will face on the many clones of CSI).

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 3:58pm

Bears vs Baltimore. OK there’s no choice here since you have to broadcast the home team’s game, and it’s probably the best option available. However–not only are both teams 2-3,

that's it--since nobody gives a shit about this game, just have the Ravens, Bears, KC & Miami all play on the same field at the same time

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by JG (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 4:13pm

RE #14: That sounds good to me. Take the KC offense and Bears defense against the Miami offense and Ravens defense. Then they can switch at the half (although chicago O and chiefs d would just end up really really ugly). That way it might even turn to be atleast an amusing, if not good game.

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by TBW (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 4:25pm

Why not just have the Giants and Jets play 16 road games every year at Giants Stadium ? Every week the two teams whose cities are forecasted to have the crappiest weather will have their games moved to Giants Stadium.

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by johonny (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 4:40pm

As a Miami fan I find it hard to believe the Astro-White Sox game won't be much more interesting than any Dolphin game this season. Watching the Gus lead offense is like watching paint dry.

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by Russell (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 6:06pm

Looks like the NFL has again decided to screw the out-of-town KC and Miami fans who've ponied up fro Sunday Ticket this season.

According to the Dolphins' web site, in addition to being shown live in KC and Miami, "a delayed-telecast of the Dolphins-Chiefs game will be shown nationally on NFL Network on Sunday, October 23, at a time to be determined."

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by ibanez (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 6:19pm

CBS should show the game nationally. It would get better ratings on Friday then whaterver junk they usually have on

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by Parker the geek (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 6:29pm

RE: #9

I think you need a power source that can generate 1.21 gigawatts to do that. Or a well timed lightning strike.

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 8:34pm

Re 19:

Actually Friday night is when they show just about their only good program, Threshold, which is very good episodic sci-fi. Much better than the other two networks' new sci-fi offerings (the moody but meandering Invasion and the pseudo-Spielbergian shlock of Surface.)

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by Fnor (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 8:44pm

#21:
Agreed. The first station to secure a Doctor Who license from the beeb wins.

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by Paul (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 8:54pm

Re 10:
No you do NOT have to broadcast the home team as Tampa found out the hard way this past week. You HAVE to broadcast the road team. The Orlando CBS station (primary TB market, secondary JAX market) had both the MIA at TB game and JAX at PIT game. By the NFL rules, the station had to broadcast the JAX game. Negotiations with JAX and NFL were no good. Not the first time nor the last time that NFL rules are bad for the fans.

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by Starshatterer (not verified) :: Thu, 10/20/2005 - 10:25pm

Paul (#23 )--

But Jax at Pitt was actually a good game. Well, a competitive game, anyway.

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by marc (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 4:15am

re#23
stuff like that only happens when there is overflow from other markets. I also have a hard time believing that in a substantially metropolitan area in a state jam packed full of people that there is only one CBS affiliate to choose from. I live in a city of 40,000 people and I get two different CBS channels over free TV airwaves.
Also if you live in the host city of a team you ARE in fact guaranteed to see that team's games on TV(barring blackout due to poor attendance of course). When teams play on cable (ESPN or whatever) the home city recieves a broadcast of the game on free over the air TV.

Between having games broadcast on 3 different networks(4 if you count ESPN), NFL Sunday Ticket, FieldPass, live Gamecenter updates on NFL.com, radio coverage, and the fact that every little town in America has at least one sports bar I can't take any complaints about not getting enough games or not getting the right games too seriously. No one is inherently entitled to a broadcast of a football game anyway.

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 12:02pm

How stupid and pointless.

This Hurricane is going nowhere near Miami. Tampa Bay - maybe.

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by DD Ohio (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 12:58pm

RE: #25

It doesn't matter what the size of your town is, it matters what other markets you're near. In northern Cincy, we get two CBS', two NBCs, etc. etc. 'cause of proximity to Dayton. I didn't have that luxury in Cleveland or Detroit (excepting those days when the atmosphere allowed us to see a fuzzy Ch. 11 out of Toledo).

And regarding people getting bent out of shape about it, if I subscribed to Direct TV + Sunday Ticket to follow my team, I'd be upset, too: this move kills 1/16th of an already too-short season.

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by Stanley Wilson (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 1:46pm

Lord, Schlereth and Salisbury are going on and on about how difficult it is for those teams to play on Friday. I know it's not the easiest thing in the world, but enough already. Those two are reacting like the players have been ordered not to wear pads or something ...

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by MDS (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 2:43pm

"No one is inherently entitled to a broadcast of a football game anyway."

Really? I thought it was in the Constitution that the NFL can't prevent its fans from watching any game they want. Thanks for the helpful clarification.

The point isn't whether we're entitled to see football, the point is whether we're entitled to get the services we were promised when we paid money for something. I got DirecTV and Sunday Ticket because I was told I could see every game except the ones blacked out because a local game wasn't sold out. The NFL and DirecTV need to do a better job of giving their customers their money's worth.

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by B (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 3:05pm

At least you'll get to see the game on tape delay on Sunday:
"A tape-delayed telecast of the Dolphins-Chiefs game will be shown nationally on NFL Network on Sunday night, Oct. 23, at a time to be determined."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8986609

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by Jen (not verified) :: Fri, 10/21/2005 - 5:10pm

This is going to be a fun one - apparently it's pouring rain in Miami and it's supposed stay that way.

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by Zac (not verified) :: Sun, 10/23/2005 - 11:53am

Re: Russell in #3.
The game was blacked out because that same law also prohibits games on Friday nights, because of high school football games.

The funny thing is that here in Wisconsin the high school football season ended on Thursday, so it wouldn't have been going up against any high school games. But there aren't many Dolphins or Chiefs (especially with all the fights the Chiefs players got involved with in training camp in Wisconsin last year) fans around here, so it probably would have been a waste.