Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

26 Oct 2005

Jets Mull Playing Two QBs

Is it really a quarterback controversy when your two options are Vinny Testaverde and Brooks Bollinger? The Jets have been beset by injuries on both sides of the ball, the offensive line has allowed 25 sacks, and now they must try and win games with their third and fourth string QBs. Herman Edwards must have been very, very naughty in a previous life.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 26 Oct 2005

19 comments, Last at 27 Oct 2005, 3:25pm by Jersey Jets

Comments

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by Dennis (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 2:31pm

Just go with Bollinger. The season's over, so you might as well let the kid get some experience.

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by fishdogg (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 2:49pm

Another benefit to playing Bollinger is positioning for Leinart in the next draft!

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by fyo (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 2:50pm

What happened to the first version of this extra points post? The one with the 3110 URL, posted many hours ago. The one with the incorrect link when clicking on the headline?

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by Sean (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 2:59pm

The Jets are most certainly not taking Matt Leinart, not with the amount of money they just finished giving to Chad (who may well return healthy next year, given a more extended recovery time). The most likely scenario is the team trading for a Matt Schaub type player who won't require an expensive new deal upon signing, or taking a quarterback at the bottom of the first or top of the second round, where the contract will actually be manageable.

I actually was pushing for a rotation from the beginning, as the DVOA suggested Vinny would tire out if he didn't get spelled a bit.

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by Brian (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 3:07pm

I wouldn't say their season is over. I mean, they're only 1.5 games out of the division lead. I'm not saying I think they'll win it, but in theory they are still very much in it.

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by James (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 3:25pm

I don't think they view bollinger as someone they need to develop. Nobody ever says: "gee, it would be nice if I could get my third string qb out there in a game so he can develop." You gotta figure, next year they're going to have two guys in front of him on the depth chart.

Besides, even if his injury is "career ending," the Jets aren't going to ditch Pennington until they're sure he's out of the picture. That might be 5 games into next season.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 3:52pm

James:

I kinda disagree. If you can get a third string QB enough playing time that he becomes a viable second string QB, that's terrific. Hopefully you signed him to a cheap two or three year contract, and now you can ditch your second string QB (who's more expensive) and pick up another third string QB for just as cheap. Voila, you've just reduced your salary cap amount without actually losing any quality.

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by fyo (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 4:24pm

Interesting topic for FO research: Do quarterbacks actually get better with experience? We all assume so, we can all list examples, but I can think of a few counter-examples as well. Perhaps more interesting, how much experience is "enough", in the sense that any more won't significantly improve skill level (as measured by DVOA).

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 4:27pm

Pat:

Instead of 3rd String QB, don't you mean AJ Feeley?

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 4:35pm

fyo:

Donovan McNabb took 2 1/2 years - mid - 1999 to 2001 to grow into a real Quarterback in 2002.

Peyton Manning took one year - 1998 - to do so.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 4:44pm

Well, that's the other reason to play a third string quarterback. He then starts to have value, and you can trade him to a stupid NFL franchise for future draft picks.

Possible stupid NFL franchises: Detroit, maybe even Houston or Miami (again!).

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by Trogdor (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 5:10pm

How does Detroit make a list of "possible stupid franchises"? If anyone is on the confirmed list, it's gotta be them.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Wed, 10/26/2005 - 5:31pm

Quarterback development is so dependent on surrounding talent that it becomes difficult to say who needs more experience, and who needs better guys to play with. Culpepper made the Pro Bowl his first year as a starter, then he stunk after his o-line was decimated, and after Robert Smith wasn't taking his hand-offs. Then he became a Pro Bowler again as his 0-line improved. Sure, more experience played a role, but it is pretty hard to quantify.

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by bobstar (not verified) :: Thu, 10/27/2005 - 12:09am

Remember the old saw that if you have two quarterbacks, you really have none. Or, in Jersey B's case, if you have four qbs, you really have none.

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by Bassett (not verified) :: Thu, 10/27/2005 - 8:07am

It looks as if the job is still vinny's. Link goes goes roundabout to my blog just to mooch traffic, then to an article :D

As a jets fan, the only thing to keep me interested this season would be to see Bollinger keep playing... he did pretty well against Atlanta's terrible prevent defense...thanks to Herm for ruining that too.

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by Jersey Jets (not verified) :: Thu, 10/27/2005 - 8:20am

These guys drop the friggin ball three times -- I mean drop it like a wet bar of soap, like the three stooges .... and this guy blames Herm for ruining something ?

good grief.

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by Bassett (not verified) :: Thu, 10/27/2005 - 11:59am

Re #17

Ugh... I understand my grammar isn't the best there... so pardon the slip-up.

"This guy's" point is this:
If the only storyline that would keep me interested in the Jets this season is Bollinger, Herm has now ruined that for me too.

So yes, I DO blame Herm for ruining the only shred of fun that would be left for me this season... it has nothing to do with fumbles.

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by Mike W (not verified) :: Thu, 10/27/2005 - 3:15pm

If you're 2-5 and your alternative is the dessicated remains of a 43-year old who was on his couch a few weeks ago, why wouldn't you play Bollinger? If you won't play him, why have him on your roster - even as a weekly inactive? With their line in such poor shape, his ability to run is meaningful, and the idea that gee, Vinny can throw the long ball - when? When he gets five seconds to throw? Because they're having such success keeping the defenses honest by running the ball? Ugh. Glad I'm nolt a Jets fan.

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by Jersey Jets (not verified) :: Thu, 10/27/2005 - 3:25pm

Thanks for the sympathy Mike, it really isn't a good year to be a Jets fan. Actually, the last 35 years have been pretty rough.
But I still feel like I have my integrity ... I didn't turn into a Cowboys/Yankees fan, although it really would have been much more rewarding!