Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

03 Nov 2005

Packers Angry Over Cell Phone

Because of those pesky cell phones going off at inopportune times, Packers head coach Mike Sherman cut short his press conference, and then canceled Brett Favre's press conference. And if you don't think it's a big deal, consider the punishment for Green Bay players who are guilty of this infraction during team meetings:

"That's a big-time no-no," long snapper Rob Davis said. "Big-time. Really, really bad."

What would happen?

"You'd get punched in the face," offensive coordinator Tom Rossley said. "Everybody in the room gets to punch you in the face."

This might go a long way in explaining all the injuries.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 03 Nov 2005

24 comments, Last at 04 Nov 2005, 1:30pm by HLF

Comments

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by Michael David Smith :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 2:55pm

I don't blame Sherman at all. It's extremely disrespectful to leave your ringer on when you're in a room where someone is speaking in front of a group.

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by Francisco (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 3:14pm

Agreed. Still, this doesn't happen if the Packers are 6-1.

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by King Kaufman (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 3:16pm

I vote for Rossley's punch-in-the-face punishment to be adopted universally. Everyone in the restaurant, movie theater, etc., gets to punch you in the face if your cell phone rings.

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by Sophandros (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 3:19pm

I second.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 3:27pm

Who says we can't all get along?

Might even name my next loser league team the Cell-Phone Face Punchers.

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by NF (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 3:37pm

Here's the best part of the article:
"We just had the daylight savings time set back. I couldn't set my watch," Rossley said. "Somebody fixed my watch, and all of a sudden it started beeping three hours later. They'd set the alarm on it or something. I took the watch off, put it in my desk and said, 'I'm not going to wear this thing until it's working.' Because of the fear of it beeping.

"You don't want anything making that kind of noise around you in that time period."

Isn't that slightly nurotic behavior? And that is the offensive coordinator of a team that is 1-6.

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by OMO (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 4:05pm

I'm sorry Michael...what were you saying? My Blackberry was vibrating.

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by B (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 4:20pm

I understand why cellphones should be kept out of theaters, but how is somebody talking on a phone in a resturant any different than people having a conversation at thier table?

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by Vash (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 4:37pm

I understand why cellphones should be kept out of theaters, but how is somebody talking on a phone in a resturant any different than people having a conversation at thier table?
They tend to talk louder because of noise and reception problems and ask "WHAT?" quite loudly.

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by Gatts (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 6:03pm

I understand why cellphones should be kept out of theaters, but how is somebody talking on a phone in a resturant any different than people having a conversation at thier table?

People use their outside voice while on the phone.

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by MCS (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 6:08pm

Why doesn't this happen if the Pack is 6-1? According to the article this is a serious offense with the team and an ongoing issue during press conferences. From what I see, it was just a matter of time, regardless of record.

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by peachy (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 6:51pm

Given the kind of questions Packers' press conferences must feature these days ('Gee, coach, how can your team suck so much even in the worst division in the NFL?' and 'Gee, Brett, how can you throw five picks in a game?'), the whole 'cell-phone cuts press conference short' line seems awfully convenient to me... perhaps we'll see this approach more in the future. ('Gee, Marty, how can you give LT one carry in the third quarter of a division game?' - ringring - 'This conference is over!')

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by Pat (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 7:14pm

NF:

I think you're missing the best part of that quote:

I couldn’t set my watch

The offensive coordinator - of an NFL team - someone who makes hundreds of thousands of dollars, for God's sake, can't set his own watch.

Dear God.

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by peachy (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 7:19pm

But are you really surprised, having seen the Packers play this season?

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by HLF (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 7:56pm

I understand why cellphones should be kept out of theaters, but how is somebody talking on a phone in a resturant any different than people having a conversation at thier table?
When you're in a group of people, more or less nothing is so rude as to be yammering away on your phone. If you're seated next to me and yammering away on your phone ("guess where I'm calling you from?"), you'd better be talking someone through surgery, or talking someone through how to land a plane because the pilots are ill -- if not, you are simply R.U.D.E. RUDE rude rude. If you have a phone call to make (or take), excuse yourself and go somewhere reasonably private to do so. This is basic beginner manners.
When in a group setting, there is a social dynamic wherein it's acceptable to converse with members of your group, but unaccepable to converse with folks that aren't even there while you ignore and inflict that conversation upon those in your group.

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by tom (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 8:18pm

I'm so on board with that punch in the face rule, and whilst it may be convenient that the Packers now have a reason to cancel press conferences, I prefer to think that they're just good honest folk standing up for what's right.

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by Joey (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 8:25pm

In a different article Sherman was quoted as saying that the media would be all over him or his players if they did the same thing. (Which is true. It woud be seen as proof positive that the person in question was a self-centered jerk and/or didn't have his priorities straight.)

What Sherman should do at his next press conference is have somebody call him about 5 minutes into it, then spend the rest of the time on the phone, hanging up just in time to end the conference. Then the headlines could read "Sherman tells caller he's standing at podium."

I'm as bad as anyone at this, but I still can't figure out why the first question asked on cell calls is always "Where are you."

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by mactbone (not verified) :: Thu, 11/03/2005 - 11:36pm

Except that the guy didn't answer his phone. What's worse, letting the phone ring and ring, or answering? There was also talk that the phone was a cameraman's and in his backpack - what's he supposed to do, drop his equipment to turn his phone off?

Anyway, it's within Sherman's right, it's petulant, and it still doesn't make sense to cancel the Favre press conference.

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by Joon (not verified) :: Fri, 11/04/2005 - 4:39am

i don't know where else to comment on this, since there isn't a link for it, but TO apparently claimed today that the eagles would be undefeated if they had favre instead of mcnabb. i can't even think of something to add to that. ok, i can. was TO at the games where they lost 49-21 and 33-10?

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by BAS (not verified) :: Fri, 11/04/2005 - 10:45am

I think that Mike Sherman should take the call at his press conference from his wife. I suggest that she phone him with the grocery list and that the reporters be subjected to the following:

"You want me to pick up bread? Didn't I pick up bread yesterday on my way home? Oh, Cub Foods has it on sale today. I see." You get my point.

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by Parker (not verified) :: Fri, 11/04/2005 - 11:33am

My favorite is when I am on the bus and we are pulling into the park and ride in the afternoon. Someone jumps on their cell to tell their spouse that they will be home in just a few minutes. Then they start discussing what they will do that evening or how their day was. Ummm...aren't you going to see them in just a few minutes? And no, I don't care how excited you are to see the new Vin Diesel movie, moron.

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by Michael David Smith :: Fri, 11/04/2005 - 12:25pm

I do think we need to separate using cell phones in a place where it's appropriate to talk and using cell phones where it isn't. Having your cell phone go off during a press conference is rude for the same reason it would be rude to have a conversation during a press conference. I don't have a problem with people talking on their phones on the train if they're doing it at a reasonable volume. I carry my phone with me everywhere, but it has never once gone off at a movie, concert, speech, meeting, etc. because there's that little power button that I press before such events.

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by HLF (not verified) :: Fri, 11/04/2005 - 1:28pm

The difference should be in places where others are a captive audience vs places where they are not. If you are yakking away inanely on the train, and I am seated next to or near you, I have no choice but to hear your inane blather. If you're blathering to your seatmate, there is a completely different dynamic as opposed to blathering to someone completely seperate from that group. It's analogous to you having a yelling conversation with someone at the front of the train -- those surrounding you at the back don't want to hear it.
link to cell rules
It's more or less astounding how much ruder people's behavior is when they feel important.

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by HLF (not verified) :: Fri, 11/04/2005 - 1:30pm

We could have the cell addicted sit with the smokers, as both are very nasty habits with little to no regard for their fellows (I say as a former smoker, too).