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27 Jul 2005

Rookie Breaks Down During Practice

When did Evelyn Gardner start playing for the Dolphins? This really isn't news, but given that most of the NFL doesn't officially start training camp until next week, it'll have to do. What's interesting is that Manuel Wright literally joined the team a few weeks ago because Miami got him via the supplemental draft. It's not like he's actually had to go through minicamp and all the off-season conditioning programs that usually lead to grown men crying. On the bright side I guess, at least he didn't end up in Dallas.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 27 Jul 2005

26 comments, Last at 28 Jul 2005, 11:03am by Curious George

Comments

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by James, London (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 11:02am

Wasn't one of the reservations with Wright immaturity? This stinks of "welcome to the real world". The big questions are:

1: Can he grow up quickly enough?
2: Why do Amazon need 18 Days to ship my Copy of THE BOOK to London?

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by MDS (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 11:34am

I think we've just learned why so few teams showed interest in a guy who's got great athletic potential.

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by Tarrant (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 11:50am

It was obvious that Wright needed another year at USC just from the attitude he took when approaching the supplemental draft - it would have done him wonders, as Carroll has been producing some very good defensive units the past few years.

However, he obviously intended to look toward the draft/supplemental draft for a while, as he pretty much dropped his classes on the floor in the spring semester and showed little interest in keeping his grades up to be eligible in the fall. Athletes can slide, but not THAT far.

And the thing is, most of the "experts" out there (even ones not named Pete Carroll) were telling him he needed another year, and to get his grades back up and stay at USC. He could end up sacrificing potentially millions down the road just to get a few hundred thousand a year earlier.

T.

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by Grim Jim (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 11:50am

I'm just wondering how he went from 328 pounds on the day of the supplemental to 290 today? That's a pretty effective diet.

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by Ray (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 11:55am

Sounds like he's out of shape mentally and physically. He probably won't play much until well into the regular season. I'm sure the Dolphins will whip him into shape though.

Oh, and I do feel bad for you, James. I live near Philadelphia, and guess where my book shipped from? Philadelphia. I had it in two days using the slowest ground shipping. Ordered on the 21st, delivered on the 23rd. I know I'm mean, but I just can't help rubbing it in. ;^)

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by Jerry Garcia (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:07pm

Well, so what if he's a cry baby?
It never hurt Marino or Manning !

Maybe he's in good company . . .

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by Johonny (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:15pm

So the guy cried? That's a sign he won't make it in the NFL? Only in emotionally insecure men is crying a sign of weakness.

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by Jerry Garcia (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:20pm

OK fellas - lemme have it.
Somebody please provide a brief definition/description of the supplemental draft. Why aren't these players in the regular college draft? Or are they? What's the deal with the "supplemental" draft? How does it work?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:29pm

Johonny,

It's not the crying, so much as the why. When was the last time you or one of your co-workers left the office in tears because the boss tore you a new one?

If he can't handle critisism from the HC how well he be when some OL starts questioning his skills and his parents/habits/hyigene?

Ray, I hope your dreams are filled with an endless Brady vs Manning debate until my copy arrives. Then you will begin to understand my suffering... :(

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by Johonny (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:36pm

I think we all need to pop in Free to Be You and Me and listen to Rosey Grier sing "It's All Right to Cry"

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by T. Diddy (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:56pm

The supplemental draft is for players who, for one reason or another (usually because they lost NCAA eligibility) come available for the draft after the NFL draft actually happens. As I understand it, all the teams get a chance to pick players, with the result being that if you actually pick a player, you lose that pick in the next draft (that is, if you take a guy in the fifth round, you lose your fifth rounder the next year). So it becomes a game of chicken: if you want a player, how long are you willing to risk another team taking him ahead of you?

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by Pats on the Potomac (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 12:57pm

After going cheap on the shipping, and tracking my order through Amazon for the last week, I got the Post Office card telling me they tried to deliver it yesterday. So I walk to the Post Office in 95-degree heat, and they tell me it hasn't been transferred to that branch yet. I have to go back today to pick it up.
Next year, I'm just driving to Aaron's house.

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by MadPenguin (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 2:07pm

Re #9...

Have you ever had an office admin/sec that broke down for no apparent reason? I've seen that at a few jobs.. maybe this guy has that type of syndrome. :-)

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by Dick Vermeil (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 2:07pm

There's no crying in football!

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by Jerry Garcia (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 2:43pm

How might a player lose NCAA eligibility? Getting in trouble or something like that?
Have there ever been any big names that came from the supplemental draft?

Hey, maybe Manny started crying when someone told him what Miami's record was last year!
Or maybe he just realized who drafted him !

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by RyanW (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 2:54pm

In Wright's case, he flunked out of school. The Sporting News had a good article explaining the supplemental draft, as well as players to come out of it and do well in the NFL. The only two players (at least since 1998) to come out of the supp. draft and have success are G Mike Wahle and NT Jamal Williams -- both 2nd round picks. They also mention that in 2003, the Texans burned a 2nd round supp. pick on RB Tony Hollings who turned into a pumpkin promptly after being drafted.

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by B (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 3:09pm

At my old job, the co-owner of the company (it was a small company) got in a heated argument with the other co-owner and stormed out of the office. She didn't actually cry, but it was definately an emotional breakdown, and on my second-to-last day on the job, no less. At least I knew I was making the right choice.

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by Erasmus (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 5:11pm

Some big names from the Supplemental draft:

Cris Carter, Brian Bosworth, Steve Walsh, Dave Brown, Bobby Humprhey, Robb Moore, Timm Rosenbach, Bernie Kosar.

I thought Bo Jackson was one as well?

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by Jack (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 5:58pm

"Some big names from the Supplemental draft:"

Brian Bosworth is only a big name if you are talking about huge busts or about how college football is drastically different/inferior from the NFL.

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by MDS (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 6:23pm

Bo Jackson wasn't supplemental; he was drafted twice. The Bucs took him first overall, he declined to sign with them, then the next year the Raiders drafted him in the seventh round.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 7:45pm

Re #13

Yeah, I've seen it. Just not in 300 pound man who trying to make his living in a ferocious contact sport populated with borderline psychopaths who want to break their opponent by any means neccessary...

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by Joe Pisarcik (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 8:23pm

Did Dave Brown flunk out of Duke? I could look it up on ProQuest, but it may take a while.

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2005 - 10:50pm

The Browns mini-run in the mid 1980's was heavily influenced by the supplememtal draft, which they used to get former USFL players as well as college players.

Besides Bernie, they got Kevin Mack, Ice Cube McNeil and LB Mike Johnson.

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by Curious George (not verified) :: Thu, 07/28/2005 - 8:45am

Why was Bernie Kosar in the supplemental draft?

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by Jack (not verified) :: Thu, 07/28/2005 - 10:12am

"Why was Bernie Kosar in the supplemental draft?"
Is it that hard to use google your own damn self? First page of results:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Kosar

"Under National Football League rules at the time, only seniors and graduates could be drafted. Amazingly, despite all the time he spent with the football team, Kosar was about to graduate a year early with a double major. The Browns convinced Kosar, who wanted to play for his hometown team, to wait until after the NFL draft to declare himself eligible for the pros. That allowed the Browns to take Kosar in a special supplemental draft."

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by Curious George (not verified) :: Thu, 07/28/2005 - 11:03am

Thanks Jack!

(I was just delegating...)