Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

16 Nov 2005

Vikings May Actually Be Better Without Culpepper

Sports Illustrated's Jeffri Chadiha wins the award for first major columnist to astutely point out the drag Daunte Culpepper was on Minnesota's special teams. Thanks to James for pointing this out.

Posted by: Ned Macey on 16 Nov 2005

16 comments, Last at 11 Dec 2005, 9:58pm by someone

Comments

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by Drew (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 2:47pm

Ahh, it's another case of correlation vs causality. He does stop just short of giving Johnson credit for the win over NYG, though. Still, that was a once-in-great-while type of game, and not likely to carry over for the Vikings in future weeks.

You name the problem, the Vikings had it: lousy defense, lame-duck coach, the love boat scandal and a losing record.

Don't they still have all of that now?

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by Nate (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 2:55pm

This article makes my brain hurt.

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by ElAngelo (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 2:59pm

Hey, www.firejeffrichadiha.com is still available.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 3:12pm

Brad Johnson's effort in preventing the Giants or Lions from scoring 24 points in the first half was nothing less than stunning. As was the 92 yard interception return vs. Eli Manning, and his stripping Joey Harrington of the ball deep in Lion's territory.

Culpepper never did any of these things!

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by princeton73 (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 3:18pm

I distincly remember watching Culpepper sabotage special teams practce

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 3:53pm

I would like to take this moment to apologize to Mike for calling his post over on the Olin Kreutz thread the stupidest thing I have ever read.

Clearly, Jeffri Chadiha is now the leader in the clubhouse. Anyone else remember how Houston's season turned out after their similar win over Pittsburgh? Those legendary 2002 Texans must have turned their season into one to remember, right?

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by Ryan Mc (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 3:54pm

The Vikings are suddenly playing good football!? I wish writers would actually watch the games. The Vikings looked aweful against the Giants, and Johnson looked particularly aweful. They won because the Giants were equally inept on offense and because they got three return TDs. Scraping out last minute wins with two special team TDs and a defensive TD is hardly a sustainable formula for winning football.

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by Kibbles (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 4:06pm

I think these "Vikings may be better without (insert pro bowler here)" articles are kind of funny. "Vikings may be better without Randy Moss". "Vikings may be better without Culpepper". "Vikings may be better without Birk". "Vikings may be better without runningbacks, linebackers, and a free safety". "Vikings might be better if they convert to a double-A baseball team".

Of course, they're all pretty safe bets, since it's not like the Vikings could really get much worse.

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by Fnor (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 4:08pm

I think you're looking for awful, not aweful. Though I suppose they may have been so full of awe at the sight of Eli Manning's innacuracy that they played decently.

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by OMO (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 5:44pm

Jeffri Chadiha makes Peter King look like Red Smith.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 7:37pm

Whatareyaall talking about? This piece is brilliant! Everyone knows that the Viking had never done the return trifecta with Culpepper at quarterback! Plus, Culpepper never caught his own pass for a touchdown either!

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by dedkrikit (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 10:06pm

*haven't read the article but wants to play devil's advocate*

The Falcons win with Vick at QB than with other "pure" passers. Perhaps BJ brings that certain something to the table for the Moss-less Vikes.

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by peachy (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 10:30pm

Hey, you all snicker now, but Daunte Culpepper's contract pays him a $900,000 bonus if he participates in 75% of Minnesota's special teams plays - he goes out, and suddenly they're great? I'm just sayin'...

(What do you think would happen if a starting QB went to up to his head coach one day and asked to play on special teams? Would the coach's head explode, or would he just die laughing?)

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Wed, 11/16/2005 - 10:39pm

I seem to remember a certain 'Basilicus' saying they'd be better off with Johnson than with Culpepper when the Daunte first got injured, only to be promptly lambasted by a half dozen other posters directly afterwards. Man, that Basilicus sure is smart.

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by Meat \ (not verified) :: Thu, 11/17/2005 - 4:41am

From Catch-22: "If droping bombs on the enemy isn't a special service, I don't know what is!"

As I recall, General Pekem ended up being promoted out of Special Services AFTER Special Services ceased to be a non-combat wing. This has nothing to do with football.

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by someone (not verified) :: Sun, 12/11/2005 - 9:58pm

Re.1

Not likely to carry over to future weeks? At time of writing, Vikings are 6-0 with Johnson at the helm. Chadiha sucks, no doubt, but equally its always very amusing to see a smart-ass such as your good self proved wrong. Good job your proclamations are hidden away here in obscurity where they belong instead of in a national magazine, isn't it?