Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

30 Jan 2006

A Get-Rich Kick Scheme Fails

In an ironic twist, Mr. X is, in fact, Ron Borges.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 30 Jan 2006

19 comments, Last at 30 Jan 2006, 10:38pm by Stevie

Comments

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by ajn (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 10:57am

why don't the patriots just send a game football to the h.o.f. and just say that it was the one flutie drop-kicked? i find all the hoopla over home-run balls and things like this absurd. i caught a foul ball hit by f.p. santangelo at le stade olympique in 1998. what stops me from putting it on ebay claiming it was a home run hit by sammy sosa in the same game?

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by adwred (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 11:38am

The demands of Mr. X are great considering this was a stupid fluke play; its not a last second touchdown for the super bowl ball or anything. What "balls" this guy has...

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by Michael David Smith :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 11:55am

Vetrano's kick was technically the most recent by an NFL player until Flutie's.

Wrong. Even though he was playing for a franchise that is now in the NFL, that game is considered by the league to have been an AAFC game. If those records all counted, for instance, Marion Motley and not Jim Brown would be the running back with the highest average yards per carry.

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by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 12:34pm

what stops me from putting it on ebay claiming it was a home run hit by sammy sosa in the same game?

There are people who authenticate these things. You'd better have some proof.

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by Michael David Smith :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 12:47pm

The people who authenticate those things are wrong as often as they're right, though. Billions of dollars are spent on phony sports memorabilia.

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by Paul (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 1:32pm

It's the lawyer.

Why he would start a negotiation like that, I'll never know.

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by Zac (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 1:35pm

The page switched from no registration to requiring registration when I was on page 3 of reading it. Very weird.

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by jc (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 1:43pm

RE: #1
one word; Fraud

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by Led (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 1:57pm

Is 100 grand, a signed jersey and good seats at regular price that outlandish a request?

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by Craigers (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 2:00pm

what stops me from putting it on ebay claiming it was a home run hit by sammy sosa in the same game?

I hope you have better luck with that than with the time you told that woman you were Brian St.-Pierre...

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by MRH (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 3:20pm

Re #9

Seems a bit much - 100k for an oddity? The season ticket thing is also a bit much for me.

The signed jersey seems like a fair deal. Maybe throw in an invite for 4 to spend a game in the owner's box after a pre-game ceremony handing the ball over to the HoF while getting the jersey. The football holder would get a cool souvenir in return for giving one up and an experience the vast majority of us will never have.

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by Smeghead (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 3:40pm

Of course it's absurd. But the absurdity is a part of the ecosystem, as it were, not this guy's fault. The lottery's absurd, too. That doesn't mean I'm not cashing a winning ticket if I find one on the street.

What ever happened to that "I have something of yours, Mr. McGwire" home run ball guy? He left almost as much jack on the table as Matt Leinart.

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by Michael David Smith :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 3:48pm

The guy who gave McGuire's 62nd home run ball back did get pretty handsomely rewarded. Among the things I remember were someone said they'd pay for his college education (he was just a kid who worked for the grounds crew) and President Clinton invited him to the White House and gave a speech about how he was a fine young man who had done the right thing. I doubt if you add it all up it would equal what he would've gotten if he had sold the ball, though, unless the value to him of being honored by the president is really high.

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by Björn (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 4:12pm

13:
Depends which president, I suppose.

Did any of you guys see the episode of Everybody Loves Raymond when Ray's dad catches a 68 yard field goal and tries to keep the ball? This is pretty much the same thing.

I wonder what New England would have given this guy had he just brought in the ball.

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by Zac (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 5:22pm

I think a jersey signed by everyone on the team would already be worth more than any one unsigned football, no matter its historical significance. Add in $100,000, and his offer is downright ridiculous.

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by B (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 5:34pm

I wonder what much the guy who caught Vanderjet's shank can get for that ball.

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by Scott de B. (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 9:13pm

The people who authenticate those things are wrong as often as they’re right, though. Billions of dollars are spent on phony sports memorabilia.

Speaking of which, I have a lock of Mary Magdalen's hair if anyone is interested...

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by andrew (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 9:20pm

So.... apparently the main thing Sherman had against him for the Bills job was a winning record.

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by Stevie (not verified) :: Mon, 01/30/2006 - 10:38pm

I wonder what Vlady would take for Krafts superbowl ring?