Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

01 Feb 2006

Martz Accepts Lions' Offer

I'm not sure what Jim Thomas means when he writes that Mike Martz has accepted an offer to become the Lions' offensive coordinator, only to add, "But it's not quite a done deal. As of mid-day Wednesday, contract terms had yet to be worked out." I don't think you've accepted an offer if you haven't agreed to a contract. But it sounds like this deal is going to get done, and if you're a Lions fan you have to be thrilled. Matt Millen deserves to be lambasted for all the idiotic decisions he's made, but if the staff he's putting together is any indication, Rod Marinelli was the right choice as head coach. The big question now is whether Martz wants to keep Joey Harrington around.

Posted by: Michael David Smith on 01 Feb 2006

22 comments, Last at 02 Feb 2006, 9:04pm by zlionsfan

Comments

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by underthebus (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 7:53pm

Everyone meet Roy Williams, fantasy superstar!

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by Jeff (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 8:18pm

Martz is going to a team with a ton of skill position talent (or potenial, one could argue), but an unproven QB and a weak OLine.

Harrington gets knocked out for the season in week 3 and is replaced by former garbageman/AFL star Burt Lerner who puts up a 4000 yard/40 TD season.

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 8:23pm

Martz can really coach up quarterbacks, when he isn't getting them killed. It'll make the Bears/Lions games fun to watch.

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by Theo (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 9:29pm

Re 2:
Harrington proved himself allright. That he sucks big time.

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by Dman (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 9:51pm

Well, someone is going to have to be under center for detroit, and theres probably nobody better in the game at identifying and coaching QB talent. This is a good move.

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by VarlosZ (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 10:29pm

Martz must have had the ability to land a coordinator job with many (if not most) NFL teams, so why would he choose Detroit? They're awful. With Millen in charge, they're likely to stay awful. The weather sucks. Oh, and they have a new head coach instead of a guy on the hot seat, so he can't figure to get promoted within the organization for at least three years. I don't get it.

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by Jake (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 10:57pm

#6
Probably because that's Jerome Bettis' home town.

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by Ted Max (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 11:14pm

Humor award goes to Jake, #6. Hilarious!

I'm glad to see Martz go back to OC. He's a great offensive coordinator, but Martz as head coach seemed to be a classic case of the Peter Principle (people rise to their level of incompetence).

If Detroit can get a good offensive line coach to keep their QB from getting killed, they might experience a big boost in offensive output. And Matt Millen will be unfireable!

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by Ted Max (not verified) :: Wed, 02/01/2006 - 11:15pm

Jake was funny in #7 about #6, I meant to say.

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by Stevie (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 12:44am

So we can expect Kevin Jones to have an even worse fantasy season next year?

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by Becephalus (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 1:44am

lol #10,

I think a good reason for him to go to Detroit IS that they have struggled. It leaves him in a good position to come out looking like he is a genius if they turn it around offensively and viola new HC job for Martz. On the other hand if they struggle he will probably get fired in 3 years and get a OC spot somwhere else.

IDK I don't like Millen or the Lions but this seems like a good move for both the organization and Martz to me.

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by Kal (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 3:14am

I'm confused - how is the offense going to make even worse decisions than they did before? Somehow, they'll manage, I'm sure.

I vaguely want Harrington to stay around because I think he could do well under Martz's tutelage - but we'll see.

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by godzilla (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 6:57am

I love how the general fan consensus recently was that Martz's playcalling as HC was awful and that he was saved by a talented team but suddenly he goes back to being a coordinator and he's a genius again. Roy Williams is the only proven WR in Detroit, Kevin Jones couldn't even be Marshall Faulk if he played First Person Football in ESPN NFL 2k5, and there is no Orlando Pace on the line or an even remotely competent QB.
Mike Martz doesn't make Charles Rogers not be a bust, he doesn't make Mike Williams run at NFL speeds or know how to be a pro, and he certainly doesn't erase the huge throbbing pus filled question mark at quarterback.

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by andrew (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 8:34am

Mike Martz meets the Matt Millen quotient for coaches with names starting with "M".

As for Martz, dunno. Maybe he likes domes. Or maybe his personal conflits had scared off other offers...

Marinelli's the coach, but I wonder how much Martz is going to think he's the one who should be running the show.

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by Charles Jake (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 12:00pm

I'm a Bears fan, and I can tell you I'm scared. I can see Ogun and A. Brown pummeling Harrington . . .Right after he completes a 60yd pass to Roy Williams (probably single covered by Charles Tillman with no safety help.

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by Drew (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 12:02pm

Excellent hire for the Lions. Perhaps Millen is finally figuring out the GM game. Nah...

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by MRH (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 12:15pm

Martz has a proven ability to identify and coach qb talent. However, Green (8th rd pick - which means undrafted today), Warner (undrafted), and Bulger (6th rd pick) were not qbs others had identified with potential. They had specific skills, abilities, or personal traits that suited them to play qb that were only marginally recognized by the NFL at large. Joey Harrington does not seem to fit this mold. I'm not sure who does, if anyone, within the Lions organization.

It would not surprise me if Martz gives Harrington or some other player a shot while grooming some late round pick on the bench for a year.

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by Squib (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 12:45pm

The Lions quarterback, whoever it is, will have a statline like so:

301/462, 3872 yards, 35 touchdowns, 12 interceptions, rating of 105.72

believe it

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by NF (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 5:13pm

#14:

Marty Morninwheg, Steve Mariucci, Rod Marinelli, Mike Martz. You are correct. All this time we've wondered why Matt Millen was doing badly as a GM, and it turns out his address book consists solely of an M section.

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by Darin (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 8:06pm

ESPN reporting now that the deal has fallen through. (click name for article)

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by pcs (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 8:08pm

SI is now reporting that the deal fell apart because the Lions weren't offering Snyder-type money.

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by zlionsfan (not verified) :: Thu, 02/02/2006 - 9:04pm

Well, there's all the proof you need that this would have been a good deal. The Lions couldn't close it.