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24 Sep 2006

Simms Has Spleen Removed After Game

Chris Simms, apparently, was rushed to the hospital after today's game with the Panthers and has, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, had his spleen removed after rupturing it.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 24 Sep 2006

26 comments, Last at 30 Sep 2006, 5:18pm by Matthew Furtek

Comments

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by charles 2.0 (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 10:03pm

i hope he gets better, how long is he out

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 10:17pm

I'm wondering if he ruptured it when he first went out. It would make the most sense, in which case he gets a lot of toughness points. Part of me wonders - if he was in serious pain when he came back in - if he only came back in because Jon Gruden has been so absolutely insane in getting on Simms' back lately. If that's the case, Simms put himself in a lot of danger by going back in. Some of that is Gruden's fault in lacking any self-control and being an immature dictator of a coach. At first it was entertaining and maybe somewhat endearing. By this point his act is simply grating and unprofessional.

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by Stereochemistry (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 10:22pm

Re: 1 At least two months
Re: 2 Last season, Carnell Williams didn't disclose his entire injury so that he could get back into the game. It's a misconception that Gruden "forced" Caddy to rush all those times leading to making his injury worse. Gruden still goes through the team doctor for stuff like this, and that team doctor has been with the team since it's first year in the league. He knows what he's doing, but he still needs the player to fully disclose how he is feeling to make a correct diagnosis.

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by ZS (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:14pm

#3: Two months? Can I get a verification of that by someone?

He's the cornerstone of my Loser League team! He can't be out two months! Chris Simm's spleen, you're lucky I love Bruce Gradikowski so much, or I'd be so P.O.'d. If Bruce does well enough, I'll go Stephen Colbert I-Called-It insane. Don't ask why.

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by krugerindustrialsmoothing (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:17pm

So, the assumption here is that the spleen was removed at the hospital by a qualified surgeon and not by Gruden in the locker? cuz...well...

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:30pm

Peter King said that he spoke with some doctors who speculated that he will be out 2-3 months. Considering that Tampa Bay's season appears to be over already (and will only get worse considering their QB situation with Simms out), why rush him back even in a best-case scenario? Why play him in 2 months if there's no chance for a playoff spot? It seems far more likely that he will end up on injured reserve than play again this season.

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by Theo (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:51pm

There are two general types of splenectomy: the "open" surgery and a minimally invasive procedure using the laparoscope and specially designed instruments.

With the "open" procedure, the surgeon makes an abdominal incision that can be up to 12 inches long, cutting through muscle and tissue. The spleen is located and removed. Hospitalization following the surgery may be up to one week, with a three to four week recuperation period.

The laparoscopic surgeon makes three or four small incisions: one for insertion of the laparoscope, a thin, telescope-like instrument attached to a camera, and the others for specially designed surgical instruments. The camera projects images of the spleen and the surrounding area onto a television monitor, which the surgeon watches as he or she moves the instruments that remove the spleen. With the laparoscopic procedure, patients are usually hospitalized for 1 or 2 days, have less postoperative pain, and a shorter recovery time.

After the Surgery

Once the spleen is removed, the patient has a greater chance of severe infection. This is especially true with children. However, there are ways to reduce this risk.

At least two weeks prior to elective surgery, adults and children over 2 receive special vaccinations. Booster vaccinations may be needed, as well.

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by Theo (not verified) :: Sun, 09/24/2006 - 11:53pm

source: google

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by T. Owens (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 12:36am

Alls I can say is: Ouch.

Did you notice Simms' expression after his first TD pass? How would I put it ... he looked excessively grim.

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by james (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 1:21am

of course my ohter fantasy qb is off next week...this fucking blows

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by krugerindustrialsmoothing (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 1:29am

and the early nominee for my favorite email of the year goes to #10. The guy has his spleen removed...his spleen (emphasis added). I imagine that would blow.

btw, TB had a bye next week too. Ya know, they publish those schedules in advance. I'm just saying.

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by Trogdor (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 2:01am

Anyone want to give odds on DJ Gallo working the term "laissez-faire" into a Simms internal organ discussion this week?

This does suck though. That's a tough injury, I hope he'll be OK quickly.

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by Vash (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 4:44am

Good news for Tampa.

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by TOO (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 5:08am

As crazy as this was, there's a precedent for it in hockey. After a playoff game, Peter Forsberg was rushed to the hospital and had his spleen removed. He missed the whole next season, but I think he had other health issues that played into that. He was ready for the next year's playoffs, though. I'd say that's about what Simms is looking at in terms of recovery time. Abdominal surgery is no joke.

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by James C (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 7:35am

"a minimally invasive procedure using the laparoscope and specially designed instruments."

I sincerely hope that they use special instruments, not just any old rubbish that they have hanging around.

'This is absolutely the last operation that we carry out using cutlery from the cafeteria, it just doesn't look professional.'

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by joel in providence (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 9:41am

according to what i heard on the radio this morning, simms will be out at least 6 weeks due to something along the lines of "the rearranging of abdominal organs" during surgery. fun.

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by PJ (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 10:05am

Really rooting for Chris Sims - for three weeks his head coach has been mentally beating him up - Tampa fans have been emotionally beating him up - now he's physically beat up & his career is in doubt. Tough kid that never complained;

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by Major Applewhite (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 10:15am

Can someone get me Jon Gruden's phone number?

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by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 10:53am

This morning I heard something interesting. I have no idea who it was, but he made the comparison between the state Gruden has put the Bucs in and the state Gruden left the Raiders. Oakland had a brief resurgence and made it to the SuperBowl (just like Tampa Bay, the difference being that Tampa won it). And he was saying that between their mediocre cap management (I wouldn't know any different) and their heavy preference to veterans over younger guys, Tampa Bay probably isn't all that far from an Oakland-like collapse. And in the very near future the unit that has carried the Bucs ever since Monte Kiffin came to the team is going to be in serious trouble when the time comes that they have to replace Simeon Rice (11 year vet; age 32), Derrick Brooks (12 year vet; age 33), Shelton Quarles (10 year vet; age 35), and Ronde Barber (10 year vet; age 31).

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by D McNabb (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 10:54am

But Major...you're doing so well with the Syracuse offense. Are you sure you want to leave?

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by Will Allen (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 10:59am

Gosh, what a brutal game football often is, and if I ever lose interest, it'll be because of the injuries.

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by Marshall Applewhite (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 11:01am

Pass the applesauce.

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by Major Applewhite (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 11:11am

I'm now the offensive coordinator at Rice - look at how I've turned them around!

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by MCS (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 11:48am

Along the same comment line as Will (tough loss BTW).

If I ever lose interest it will be because of the likes of comment 10. The man has his spleen removed and all the fan cares about is his FF team.

And I've been playing FF since 1998.

I'm old-fashioned (or maybe just old), but I believe that FF should never take precedence over the real game.

My 2-bits.

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by PJ (not verified) :: Mon, 09/25/2006 - 2:08pm

#19 is right - Tampa's best days are behind them. Hope Simms can make it back and resume his career. If so; he's an unrestricted free agent that should sign with a team that doesn't have a tyrant as a head coach. Gruden continuosly put him in a position to fail. Simms played great after the injury; at that point he probably din't care what Gruden thought and he was playing on instinct.

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by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Sat, 09/30/2006 - 5:18pm

I think Simms ruptured his spleen when he got hit while scoring the TD... I can't see how the kind've hit that the NFL/Bucs/ESPN say caused him to rupture the spleen was nearly as violent as the one he took when scoring the TD.