Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

07 Aug 2007

Quest for Quinn Qumpleted

The Cleveland Plain-Dealer is reporting that Brady Quinn has agreed to terms with the Cleveland Browns. Quinn's contract contains $7.5 million in guaranteed money.

Posted by: Ben Riley on 07 Aug 2007

25 comments, Last at 08 Aug 2007, 6:42pm by Sundown

Comments

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by Buzz (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 4:14pm

Quinn should prove to be another above average quarterback and hopefully turn the Browns around. Hope he also continues to prove the PFP QB projections to be accurate

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by David (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 5:13pm

My personal theory is that he held out this long to make sure that he couldn't be saddled with the starting job from the start of the season.

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by kevinNYC (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 5:23pm

I can't knock him for holding out. They wanted to pay him based on where he was picked, so if he was starting by year 3-5, he would've been totally underpaid.

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by Andy (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 5:28pm

#3: John Beck (chosen in the 2nd round) should be starting for the Dolphins by year 3-5. Should he have held out too?

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by Jimmy (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 5:30pm

#3

Contrary to the reports by the talking heads he has been paid according to where he was picked. If he wanted to be payed more he should have played better in college to impress scouts to a larger degree.

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by mmm... sacrilicious (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 6:00pm

#3, 5: I still don't see what the big deal about his first contract is. If he does win the starting job by his third season, the Browns will tear up his contract and pay him as a starter to avoid alienating him (as would any other team). If he doesn't win the starting job, he'll be an overpaid backup, and teams are always willing to pay highly touted young QBs who haven't proven anything (see Harrington, Carr).

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by Harris (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 6:26pm

Somewhere, Florio is weeping hot, bitter tears.

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by Purds (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 7:12pm

#6:

What if he's a tweener, the starter but not a stand-out? An Eli Manning, for example. Then, what's he got? Not much, unless he got a good first contract.

Certainly the Browns wouldn't tear up a 5-year contract if he played like Eli, but he would still be a starter.

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by oro (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 7:29pm

As a DolFan, I have to admit that Mueller/Cameron were right to pass over Quinn and take Beck and Ginn instead.
By all accounts, Beck has looked very sharp, with a good arm, in camp and he signed on time and supposedly already knows the playbook well.
Time will tell but it doesn't seem as much of a lame decision now.

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by Richie (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 8:16pm

Time will tell but it doesn’t seem as much of a lame decision now.

And we have plenty of evidence to make these judgments already.

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by DolFan 316 (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 8:20pm

9:

As a fellow DolFan I never did want Quinn. The QB I wanted was Kolb (who PFP has very good things to say about), and then Beck. The player I wanted drafted in Ginn's place was Willis. Just think, if the Fins take Willis that means no Porter, and no Porter knee surgery making him miss preseason (at least).

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by mmm... sacrilicious (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 9:37pm

#8: If he's even a mediocre starter, especially a young one with "potential", he will almost surely be paid more than $4M per season. If he doesn't, he should find a new agent.

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by mmm... sacrilicious (not verified) :: Tue, 08/07/2007 - 9:38pm

...and by "doesn't", I of course mean "isn't".

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by centrifuge (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 12:48am

#2: I had the exact same thoughts.

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by J.R. (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 2:59am

He got about the same as if he did not hold out, is that correct? Sounds like he blinked.

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by Levente, Hungary (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 3:45am

#12
I agree. People only focus on the guaranteed money, but surely he will get paid for performance, as well. If he plays well by year 3, he will get paid well. If he is a tweener, will he have any right to complain that he is not paid as a #3 pick?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 8:48am

This is the Browns. Quinn will play at some stage in 2007, look OK, give hope to the whole of Cleveland and then catch Necrotizing fasciitis.

Meanwhile Dallas will draft a Hall-of Famer with the Browns 1st round pick in 2008.

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by TED F!@#ING GINN!? (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 9:48am

Re: 9,11

I can probably think of about 30 other players I'd rather the Dolphins have taken than Teddy Bear...

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by Andy (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 11:42am

#18: Name the 30 players.

Oh, by the way, the jets suck.

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by TheWedge (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 11:50am

19:
I'm not the original poster, but every other player selected in the first round would probably be a good start.

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by wrmjr (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 12:04pm

It's $7.75 M guaranteed, but what's $250,000 among friends?

I'd love to know what some of the "escalators" are and what chance he has of realizing extra money in the deal. My guess is not much of a chance.

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by centrifuge (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 12:20pm

21: I'd imagine Ben Roethlisberger didn't think he'd be activating his escalators either.

(Begin the race for an "activating your escalators" joke...)

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by Andy (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 12:21pm

#20: You'd have taken Meacham, Bowe, Craig Davis, and Anthony Gonzalez over Ginn?

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by nikos (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 2:16pm

22: Also not the original poster, but I'd definitely take Meacham and Bowe over Ginn. It's a toss-up with Davis. I would take Ginn over Gonzalez without a doubt, though.

Obviously 30 players over Ginn is a little exaggerated but I'd rather have Meacham/Bowe, Willis, Timmons, Okoye or Reggie Nelson over him, to name a few. Clearly Ginn is talented but he was also way overhyped coming out of tOSU.

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by Sundown (not verified) :: Wed, 08/08/2007 - 6:42pm

9: Do you really know any more now than on draft day? Looking good in camp plus "supposedly" knowing the offense isn't much to go on.