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03 Dec 2007

Strategic Keys To Week 13

CNNSI's Bucky Brooks gives Tavaris Jackson some props, gives Norv Turner the benefit of the doubt and examines how Dallas was able to get Terrell Owens free against Green Bay's secondary.

Posted by: Sean McCormick on 03 Dec 2007

19 comments, Last at 05 Dec 2007, 2:21pm by sam

Comments

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by Wanker79 (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 6:23pm

I've had nothing but praise for Brooks, but apparently he's also just another in a seemingly endless list of football commentators who doesn't know the difference between an end-around and a reverse. *sigh*

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by bgrimm420 (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 6:27pm

1. He calls it a reverse a bit later. I guess since the toss was fumbled, it was an end around that attempted a reverse.

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by bgrimm420 (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 6:30pm

Of, course Reggie didn't line up as an end (split or tight) so end-around is probably not correct not matter what. Bucs are going to the SuperBowl you heard it here first.

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by zip (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 6:35pm

#3

Your mix of technical analysis and raiderjoe-ism confuses and frightens me.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 6:58pm

4: I laughed out loud at that and people stared at me.

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by TheWedge (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 7:21pm

Aw, I miss raiderjoe.

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by Dev (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 7:29pm

I like these articles, but I don't agree with the "they just should have given LT the ball more" hindsight.

I recall that he had few carries because he was getting stuffed a lot. Or am I wrong?

P.S. The people on these comment boards are a huge reason why I frequent this site.

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by dbldown (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 7:59pm

re: 7

You're completely right, the chargers didn't feed LT the ball early in the season because teams were doing a great job of stopping him.

The past few years the chargers were able to run on teams even though they knew it was coming. This year has been different, it seems like the offensive line has been less physical and Mcneill has regressed quite a bit.

It also seems like the chargers running game was a bit more sophisticated under Cam Cameron. Under Cameron they ran a bunch of fake end arounds, they would counter and trap a bit more and do it in different formations.

It would be interesting to see how often the chargers ran power (or vanilla) running plays under Cameron compared to Norv.

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by mshray (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 8:09pm

1 & 2, did you watch the Mizzou/Okla game? Missouri ran more end arounds to Jeremy Maclin than I think I've ever seen in one game, and every single time Kirk Herbstreit called it a reverse. And the one time they faked a reverse off of it Herbstreit got all worked up about the 'double reverse'. But Brent Musburger pointedly called it a 'reverse' once Herbstreit ran out of breath. And I usually don't mind Herbstreit compared to most.

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by jim's apple pie (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 8:35pm

This "feed the ball to LT" crap is inane. He actually is running more often than in previous years as a percentage of the total number of plays that the Chargers are running. The Chargers have simply not run as many plays this year because:

1) LT is getting stuffed at the line a lot.

2) The Chargers are doing much worse on third down (Eric Parker is definitely missed).

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by Not saying (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 8:52pm

I feel that the name of this piece is particularly misleading. I've never been a huge fan of this series, but that might be because I'm spoiled by the analysis here.

But this article had one item that even resembled a strategic key (the last one). Telling me A.J. Feeley is not a long term solution for the Eagles is not something that qualifies as a strategic key in my book. (Nor as something particularly insightful, although I guess it might be contrary to Philly media.)

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by zlionsfan (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 8:56pm

"People" are making the same comments about the Lions' offense. blah blah Martz blah blah pass blah blah.

The 1st-and-10, 2nd-and-9, 3rd-and-8 offense was the Ross-era offense, if I'm not mistaken. I think Martz should be forgiven if he'd prefer not to get in a 3rd-and-8 (or 3rd-and-12 against Minnesota) by default.

Of course, there's also the whole "establish the run" contingent to battle. I'd like to establish the run after we're up 20 points, if that's okay with you. Until then, if it's not working, let's forget it. (In fact, even at that point, if the run isn't working, let's burn clock/score points with the pass.)

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by Jimmy (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 10:00pm

Little help on a bit of terminology in the Owens analysis. How exactly does a 'rub' differ from a 'pick'?

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by langsty (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 10:46pm

Scouts seem to make the best analysts. Chris Landry, a regular on Fox Sports Radio on saturdays and sundays, is a very accomplished scout and the best football analyst in any medium, bar none. He's really without peer.

re: LDT... it's hard to know where exactly to start with the Chargers offense, but it's astonishing that we're past Thanksgiving and still hearing LDT say stuff about not being real comfortable, still getting acquainted with the offense etc. Their gameplans have been pretty goofy.

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by Sean McCormick :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 11:23pm

I also really enjoy Greg Cosell's spots. I wish he had some written columns to go along with his radio interviews.

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by Shot 'n Freud (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 11:34pm

#12: I don't think the Lions should try to establish the run, since that's obviously not where their strength lies. However, having watched most of their games, I think they should run more than they do (in most games). Maybe 30-35% of the time, at least.

I know that correlation doesn't imply causation, but in games in which KJ has at least 12 rushes, his YPC are 5.1, 4.6, 4.2, and 4.7. Defenses are respecting the pass to such a great extent right now that I think running the ball every so often would be beneficial.

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by langsty (not verified) :: Mon, 12/03/2007 - 11:46pm

Cosell is good too. I've found myself wishing that Landry had a regular column - he did a few pieces for Yahoo! last season (one linked in name) but that's it.

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by PatsFan (not verified) :: Tue, 12/04/2007 - 2:55am

What am I missing? Why didn't the Pats kick onsides on that final kickoff (with the proviso that you do a middle-of-the-field onsides to make sure the ball doesn't go OOB)?

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by sam (not verified) :: Wed, 12/05/2007 - 2:21pm

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Who cares if the ball does go OOB? The penalty is enforced from the kickoff spot, it's not automatically at the 40.