Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

15 Jan 2008

Norm Chow Out as Titans' Offensive Coordinator

I can honestly say that I didn't see this coming. Norm Chow certainly won't have any trouble landing another job, but I'm more interested in who will replace him. Presumably, the next coordinator will be charged with building the offense around Vince Young, the second-year quarterback who regressed this season.

Posted by: P. Ryan Wilson on 15 Jan 2008

24 comments, Last at 17 Jan 2008, 1:47am by bigal

Comments

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by Rick Neuheisel (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 8:57pm

Sure, Norm Chow will listen when I call.

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by lionsbob (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 9:28pm

well everyone thinks Major Applewhite is going to Texas....but there is no OC job open at the moment for Texas...but with Chow gone, perhaps Greg Davis who was the OC at Texas with Vince Young is moving up. I have no clue, I hope its not true, I want Applewhite to stay at Bama...

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by TheWedge (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 9:40pm

In related news Garrett has been offered the Ravens job.

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by TheWedge (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 9:40pm

link in (both) names. Sorry for double post.

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by NewsToTom (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 9:42pm

Per the Tennessean, former Titans OC Mike Heimerdinger, now DEN Asst HC/QBs, is the favorite. Given that Heimerdinger's exit from TEN didn't seem to be entirely a rousing good time on both parts, I don't really think the job will end up his. Well, there's always Les Steckel!

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by patriotsgirl (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 9:50pm

Could part of this have stemmed from the purported draft-day disagreement between Chow and (IIRC) Reese about whether Leinart or Young should be drafted?

Perhaps he was never able to convince Fisher/the front office that he could effectively work with Young in the long term.

Or, I could be making up random factoids about a team I have just enough (limited) knowledge of to be dangerous.

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by Pat (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 9:59pm

Some crazy, crazy part of me hopes that Hawaii goes after Norm Chow for the HC job. He was suggested by June Jones when he left, and man he'd be a great hire.

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by db (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 10:19pm

This could be the worst thing to happen to Young. He is not very bright and having to learn another system and new terminology will set him back even further.

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by Ryan (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 10:23pm

The Titans should bring in Brian Billick. No one can coach up the quarterbacks like that offensive genius.

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by Jimmy in Oz (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 10:32pm

Not sure if i saw the Titans actually pulling the pin on Chow but i'm definitely not surprised as i've seen this before somewhere.

Now if i could only remember when this sorta thing last happened...

"NFL Team announces that coach will not be around for upcoming season. The coach, who had success in collegiate ranks, never seemed to make the transition to the pro game. NFL Team to interview position coaches on their own staff and from other NFL teams."

Insert names as required.

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by Kurt (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 10:58pm

According to Mike Francesa (I know, second time I've mentioned him today) Chow would regularly rip Young when talking with TV analysts before games. Francesa guessed that Young got wind of this and complained to management, which basically chose to keep Young rather than Chow.

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by Kurt (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 11:00pm

...which seems to tie in with patriotsgirl's post at #6.

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by db (not verified) :: Tue, 01/15/2008 - 11:38pm

Chow "ripped" Young once when he noted that Vince pouted rather than take instruction. If you saw Young's press conference after he was benched for going home rather than staying with the team you saw that and it was not pretty. I doubt that qualifies as "regularly".

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by rageon (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 12:40am

#7 beat me to it. Please Norm, go save Hawaii football.

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by BishopMVP (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 5:40am

Over on another forum I belong too we've got a discussion going on whether Tennessee should try being the first NFL team to run the spread offense and if that could work. My opinion is that they've got too much of the cap and marketing invested in Young, but it could work as long as you have 2-3 QB's (and there seem to be plenty of those guys in the 7th/undrafted).

Link in name (I hope).

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by lobolafcadio (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 6:45am

Too bad the niners already hired Martz (for both teams).
Chow could salvage Smith' career and I would have loved to see Martz working with Young and Fisher, what a battle of egos !

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by Disco Stu (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 12:37pm

oh man, I would LOVE to see Martz coaching Vince Young. Vince Young as a Martz QB could be the most amazing miscasting since Tara Reid as a scientist in Alone in the Dark.

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by Sean McCormick :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 2:25pm

Honestly, the Patriots run about the closest thing you'll see to that spread offense at the NFL level, they just do it without the mobile quarterback built in. But they run about three quarters of their plays out of the shotgun with 3-4 wide receivers, and their run plays and use of end arounds and screens is all reminiscent of what you're seeing at the college level. It would be hard for other teams to execute because they don't have the kind of depth to exploit individual matchups at any point on the field. Now would a team running a spread/option attack which emphasizes the mobility of the quarterback succeed? I'm not sure about that. If you were to use it, I'm torn as to whether or not you'd rather run it with a guy like Vick, who is a much more dangerous runner, or with Young, who is more accurate when throwing the kind of quick horizontal passes that are a staple of the system.

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by BHW (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 4:25pm

As for that stuff about Chow badmouthing Young, it has been long-rumored that Chow has, shall we say, a lack of people skills. This is rumored to be a big reason why he's never been a head coach.

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by CaffeineMan (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 5:20pm

BHW, when you say "lack of people skills", do you mean he's clueless and doesn't know when NOT to speak? Or do you mean more that he's harsh and sarcastic? Or something else?

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by Bobman (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 7:03pm

#20, Who the F here would know anything about being harsh and sarcastic? Oh, wait, should I have not said that?

Must be the Percocet talking, kids. If you ask me, that stuff rots your brains.

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by The Broilermaster (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 10:05pm

@17:

Win.

It will be interesting to see exactly where Chow ends up. Perhaps Dallas after half of their coaches get hired off? Romo seems "coachable" enough.

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by BHW (not verified) :: Wed, 01/16/2008 - 11:16pm

BHW, when you say “lack of people skills”, do you mean he’s clueless and doesn’t know when NOT to speak? Or do you mean more that he’s harsh and sarcastic? Or something else?

I haven't heard anything specific, just the general notion that he doesn't really get along well with people. I don't know if that's because he may be a jerk, I don't know if he's introverted, I'm not sure what the complaints are. It's just something I've heard as an explanation as to why he's never gotten a head coaching gig (he's also allegedly a bad interview and unenthusiastic about recruiting).

I should reiterate that these are rumors, rumblings on message boards and the like. But that sort of talk is out there.

In this case, I suspect it was just an incompatibility between his system and the talent. (An incompatibility he wouldn't have with Ben Olson, incidentally.)

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by bigal (not verified) :: Thu, 01/17/2008 - 1:47am

Sunday Night game with colts NBC's Andrea Kramer stated on air Norm Chow said He needs to grow up when things don't go right he get mad and pouts...of course nobody talked about it. and now chows gone... great leadership in the titan front office.......