by Chris (not verified) :: Tue, 12/30/2008 - 5:57pm
What are the odds of Davone Bess being better than Ted Ginn? Is it possible Bess plays better because he gets to play the slot where as the 1st round pick has to play the outside? Maybe if their roles were reversed it wouldn't even be in question.
Ryan Clady and Chris Johnson had strong years. Chris Horton for the deadskins had a pretty solid year for being one of the last guys picked in the 7th round. Desean Jackson played better than I thought a rookie WR in the Eagles offense would have played. Felix Jones was good while he lasted. Mayo for the pats played hard. Dwight Lowery for the Jets was a solid pick up.
by Jimmy Oz (not verified) :: Tue, 12/30/2008 - 9:24pm
I know its easier for a RB or WR to enter the league with an NFL-ready skillset. Not as many rookies start at other positions as they do at HB. But in 42 years the award has only gone to 3 positions - HB (31) WR (7) QB (4).
Towing the TMQ line, but past voter bias takes away from the award's credability.
Tackles get shafted a bit, but other than that the voters are generally right. Even if a rookie center is playing a like an all-pro, his impact on the team is less than a good running back. Also, I bet there's been less than 5 tackles in that time worthy of winning.
Offensive POTY: Kurt Warner
Defensive POTY: Ed Reed
Coach: Ken Whisenhunt or Tony Sparano
OROTY: Matt Ryan
DROTY: Jerod Mayo
MVP: Ed Reed
Comeback player: (whoever came back from a major injury)
Some players may have had better years and been more valuable to their team then Matty Ice, but it's tough to name more then two or three. Matty Ice changed a league negative situation [Vick and Patrino] into a positive. He was not only the most valuable player of his own team, he was the most valuable player for the whole NFL!
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Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
1st!
This was a slam dunk of a pick that no one could get wrong. Ryan has had a great year and has been a key part in rebuilding Atlanta.
Suprised that Flacco got no votes though.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
What are the odds of Davone Bess being better than Ted Ginn? Is it possible Bess plays better because he gets to play the slot where as the 1st round pick has to play the outside? Maybe if their roles were reversed it wouldn't even be in question.
Ryan Clady and Chris Johnson had strong years. Chris Horton for the deadskins had a pretty solid year for being one of the last guys picked in the 7th round. Desean Jackson played better than I thought a rookie WR in the Eagles offense would have played. Felix Jones was good while he lasted. Mayo for the pats played hard. Dwight Lowery for the Jets was a solid pick up.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Bess is a great catcher, and runs crisp routes, but he's nowhere near the physical specimen that Ted Ginn Jr. is.
So to answer your question, yeah, he might be better than Ginn. j/k
-- Go Phins!
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Peter King: "This is as much of a racial breakthrough as Obama's election."
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
It either says a lot about me, or Peter King, that I can't tell if you're joking or not.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
It's a real testament to the rookie class this year that this wasn't unanimous.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
I know its easier for a RB or WR to enter the league with an NFL-ready skillset. Not as many rookies start at other positions as they do at HB. But in 42 years the award has only gone to 3 positions - HB (31) WR (7) QB (4).
Towing the TMQ line, but past voter bias takes away from the award's credability.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Tackles get shafted a bit, but other than that the voters are generally right. Even if a rookie center is playing a like an all-pro, his impact on the team is less than a good running back. Also, I bet there's been less than 5 tackles in that time worthy of winning.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Offensive POTY:
Defensive POTY:
Coach:
OROTY: Matt Ryan
DROTY: Jerod Mayo
MVP:
Comeback player:
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
What I think...
Offensive POTY: Kurt Warner
Defensive POTY: Ed Reed
Coach: Ken Whisenhunt or Tony Sparano
OROTY: Matt Ryan
DROTY: Jerod Mayo
MVP: Ed Reed
Comeback player: (whoever came back from a major injury)
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Comeback player: Jake Delhomme (or possibly Ronnie Brown)
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
OPOTY = Drew Brees
DPOTY = Demarcus Ware
MVP = Peyton Manning
OROY = Matt Ryan
DROY = Mayo
Head coach = Tony Sporano
Come back player = Delhomme
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
I agree with Chris about everything except Coach (Belichick) and comeback player (Bryant).
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Wonderful for Matt Ryan, but he should be MVP.
Why??
Some players may have had better years and been more valuable to their team then Matty Ice, but it's tough to name more then two or three. Matty Ice changed a league negative situation [Vick and Patrino] into a positive. He was not only the most valuable player of his own team, he was the most valuable player for the whole NFL!
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Just another case of East Coast Media Bias.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Just another case of East Coast Media Bias.
Re: Ryan Named Offensive Rookie of the Year
Oops.
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