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07 Oct 2009

Browns Trade Braylon Edwards to Jets

Apparently, receivers and breaking news go great together today. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that the New York Jets have acquired receiver Braylon Edwards in a trade with the Cleveland Browns. More details as they are made available...

Posted by: Doug Farrar on 07 Oct 2009

64 comments, Last at 09 Oct 2009, 8:02am by Mr Shush

Comments

1
by Joe T. :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 8:35am

Kick ass. I just picked up Massaquoi on the waiver wire and didn't even know that Edwards had been dealt yet.

2
by Brooks (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 8:42am

Does the loss of Edwards mean Massaquoi has more value, fantasy-wise? I can never remember what the FO data say about losing a WR1.

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by Adam B. :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 8:49am

Common sense says that someone has to catch the ball there. Got MM for $11 in an overnight single-bid auction waivers ($100 season cap). Feel like I got a bargain.

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by Omroth-UK (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:33am

10% of your total value on someone who wasn't a starting WR at the time? I don't understand.

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by Adam B. :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:31am

There are only so many players who emerge as studs during the course of a season, and you can acquire for free in this league if a guy clears waivers. It's also a long-term keeper league, so a lot of rookie and backup RBs were claimed long ago.

Manningham went for $32.

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by dryheat :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:50am

Such "common sense" has saddled me with Lee Evans and Zach Miller this season.

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by Tundrapaddy (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 1:41pm

I think it means he's still considered 'WR2', but 'Browns WR1' now has to line up against 'hole in zone'.

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by Led :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:01am

NY press is reporting the Jets gave up starting WR Chansi Stuckey and special teams ace Trusnick. I'm not averse to taking a risk on somebody else's headache, but that's too much to give up. Stuckey could be (and was last year) an effective slot receiver, although he was playing out of position on the outside this year. Trusnick is valuable on special teams and as a backup LB. If Randy Moss could be gotten for a song from Oakland, surely the Jets didn't need to give up 2 useful players for Edwards, a guy who has never produced up to expectations.

I just hope playing for a competitive team is enough to light a fire under his ass. The Jets have a solid locker room with a bunch of high character vets who won't put up with BS, but we'll see.

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by Independent George :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:29am

And... the Jets are still the Jets

It's not just a question of having good vets and a respected coach around him. It's also a question of a rookie QB who's likely to make some rookie mistakes, an unforgiving NY media, and that a WR known as a physically gifted but lazy on mental preparation has just been dropped into an entirely new offense (while giving up a serviceable receiver who does know the offense).

Oh, yeah, and there's also the pending criminal investigation, whose results should be coming out just as the playoff picture starts to emerge.

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by Bobman :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 12:19pm

So what you are saying, George, is that as a Colts fan I should be happy... at least for this season.

That's pretty much what I thought.

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by Led :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 12:57pm

Hold on there. I don't think you can argue that Edwards at WR makes the Jets a worse offense than Stuckey at WR. Even if Edwards continues to underachieve, defenses have to account for him down the field because he is still a deep threat. His presence will make life easier for Cotchery, Keller and the running game. He makes the offense more versatile. Brad Smith can do most of the things Stuckey can do in the slot and Leon Washington can also get snaps in the slot. I have no doubt that this trade makes the Jets better. The only question in my mind is whether they could've gotten a better price because Mangini was desperate. I think they overpaid. In other contexts, you'd also worry about the clubhouse cancer aspect, but I don't think that's an issue here.

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by Mr Shush :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:26am

Per PFT, the deal is Stuckey, Trusnik and the Jets' 3rd and 5th round picks. It's a risk, but the upside of Edwards is a hell of a lot more than the upside of Stuckey and Trusnik. He has the talent to be a pro-bowl wide receiver. Indeed, he has in fact been a pro-bowl wide receiver, with his 1289 yard, 16 touchdown 2007 season. Drops have certainly been an issue for him, and he's unlikely ever to have Fitzgerald-like hands, but then there's a guy called Owens who's been known to drop a ball or two, and he's had a pretty good career. If Edwards focuses and plays hard, this is a steal for the Jets.

PFT also reports that Edwards' contract is up at the end of the season, and no new deal has been negotiated. This probably means he'll be an RFA (as it seems unlikely that a new CBA will be in place by then). I confess, however, that I am surprised his rookie contract was for only 5 years, not 6, as is the norm for picks in the top 7-10 or so.

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by Anonymous Coward (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:15am

I may be biased cause I'm a Steeler fan and he was a Brown, but I think the Browns fleeced the Jets with this one. Stuckey and Trusnik are both contributors and are pretty cheap. I don't think Edwards is that good, and I think he's going to want Fitzgerald money next year. Doesn't the RFA tender have to be something like 120% of this years cap# if that's higher than the standard amounts for that tender?

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by Led :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:34am

The other downside is that this is going to hurt the Knicks chances of landing Lebron.

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by roguerouge :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:44am

Nah. The Jets play in New Jersey and that's far enough away.

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by crack (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 1:30pm

This wins the thread.

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by BywaterBrat (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:13am

If he gets his head on straight, which I trust Ryan will be able to assist with, he coudl have some big games.

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by Dice :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:43am

Curious as to whether or not Sanchez will start forcing passes his way.

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 1:43pm

You mean the Plaxico Burress effect and that's what I'd be worried about too.

3rd and 10, B Easy Edwards is covered, Dustin or Cochery is less covered... Sanchez throws the ball to them and it isn't completed.

a confident (selfish) Edwards runs back to the huddle complaining for the ball.

Then the next 3rd down he forces a ball to B. Easy Edwards.

The Jets needed a WR, they have their young QB of the future, and if Edwards even comes close to expectations they probably get a good deal. Then again, he's exactly the kind of player that could blow up... How's he going to work with Rex Ryan and the NY media?

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:51am

Great for the Brownies. 3rd and 5th are better than I thought they would get.

Jets fans will hate this guy as soon as they seem him blow every third down throw his way and each and every deep ball dropped like a penicillin after a date with Paris Hilton.

Braylon is a physical beast, but a mental midget and a locker room cancer. I am pretty sure he wishes he was playing basketball and not football. He jumps for every pass, no matter where its thrown. Then proceeds to drop it again and again.

He can be good in NYC/NJ cuz he luvs the spotlight, but the probability that he isn't the same useless screwball that he was in Cleveland are remote at best.

Good luck to the Jets, cuz this guy needs a beat down in the locker room as soon as he arrives in town.

Browns, I am amazed you did something good for once. Except, everyone knew you could have traded him to the Giants for a first or at min a second rounder in the off season. That may have been the best bet. We will see on Stuckey and other dude.

Happy, F Braylon and his useless self. Go to Jets and get MeShawned by Rex

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by Independent George :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:03am

Except, everyone knew you could have traded him to the Giants for a first or at min a second rounder in the off season.

And everyone was wrong.

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by JasonK :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:19am

I seem to recall reading that Jerry Reese floated the idea of offering the 2nd & 5th they in the Shockey trade, but no serious discussions followed. As it got closer to the draft, CLE might have been willing to accept an offer in that range, but I think the Giants interest cooled when they got an earful of what Braylon's future contract demands would be.

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by bbracey :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:46am

I believe it was reported that the Browns wanted Steve Smith along with the Saints picks (2nd and 5th) to which Reese declined and counted with the Saints picks along with Manningham or Hixon to which that Browns said no.

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:52am

Thats what I heard too.

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by Temo :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 9:58am

So the Jets' tampering with Crabtree failed, forcing them to trade for Edwards.

Probably completely wrong, but it makes for a neat little story.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:13am

I can't imagine what could possibly go wrong with Braylon Edwards suddenly is transplanted from the Cleveland bar and club scene to the New York bar and club scene.

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:34am

lol

Everyone here in C-town knows BE loves to drink and party and get in peoples faces all the time trying to start shit. He is a bitch boy trying to prove himself for whatever reason.

On a real level, it will be sad when they shoot him up outside Scores for talking to much to the wrong people

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by Rich Conley (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:44am

He's probably more likely to get shot in Cleveland than NYC. NYC actually has very little gun violence.

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by Independent George :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 12:10pm

Yeah, everyone seems to think of NYC as if it's still 1979; here in Chicago, people never believe me when I tell them our violent crime rate is double that of NYC. I think the larger point that there's much more trouble to be had in NYC is pretty much undisputed, though.

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by JasonK :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 6:40pm

I blame "Law & Order." The country has been seeing a new corpse turn up in the 22 every week for almost 20 years. That's gotta skew some perceptions.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 9:56am

I don't know about that - the only WR I know of, that get shot lately, was in NYC. Heard they put the shooter in jail for 2 years.

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by bravehoptoad :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:26am

Hmmm...let's see. Troubled wide receiver has problems dealing with all the action and bright lights of...Cleveland.

Oh yeah, heading to NYC is just the thing for him.

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by GhettoBear04 (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:30am

So which deal is better: 1 & 3rd (and swapping of other picks) for Roy Williams or this deal for Braylon Edwards?

I'm not sure it's fair to compare every trade for a WR to Randy Moss, as that seems a special circumstance. Also, deals made in the season usually cost the team acquiring the better talent more.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:36am

I'm not sure either is "better". More of a question of "less worse". I like the Edwards trade more because it isn't a first and a third, so there's less cost to it. It's not like Stuckey was tearing up the league.

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:46am

JJ is a moron for giving that for Roy Boy, but even though he is mediocre at best, he is a better WR than BE.

BE has tremendous potential, but still can't run routes, catch the ball, not jump for everything under the sun, and be a good teammate after 5 long crap filled years. Even in his pro bowl year, he still had at in 16 drops. (I know the league has no idea how to calculate drops, but believe me Stone Hands is nothing new for this guy)

Another Browns draft bust. We have to lead the league in last ten years draft ineptitude.

Someone should do a research project on that. FO want to pick that one up? :-D

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by witless chum :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 12:48pm

"Another Browns draft bust. We have to lead the league in last ten years draft ineptitude."

As a Lions fan, I feel the need to step up and defend my team here.

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by are-tee :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:56am

Stuckey is a good route runner but doesn't have great hands.

Edwards doesn't have to be Randy Moss for this to help the Jets - he just has to make defenses respect him enough to open things up for Cotchery, Keller and the run game.

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:12am

Realistically, BE can do that, but only to a point.

He is limited to runnign deep fly routes and jumping for the ball, whether its necessary or not. He is one of the worst slant route runners in the league. The CB always get in front of him.

New coach, new team, new environment, new QB, new everything may placate his inner crybaby for a while.

Even if this works for the Jets, Browns had to get rid of this guy. He is a complete cancer and offense and drive killer.

Hopefully, he doesn't get shot up in NYC/NJ

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:24am

So... how does it look for the Jets tampering charges that minutes after Crabtree signs his rookie deal they trade for a WR?

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by Purds :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 1:13pm

Good point.

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 1:39pm

Fantastic point.

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by Theo :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 6:32pm

Coach Ryan has an opinion about that:

http://www.bangcartoon.com/2009/cluck.htm

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by AB (not verified) :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 10:17am

Except that, as they point out on PFT, Crabtree could not have played for them this season anyhow.

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by B :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:34am

As a Patriots fan, I'm psyched the Jets have lost Stuckey and replaced him with Edwards. Edwards is a supremly talented receiver who hasn't played well in years, where as Stuckey is one of those guys who always seems to get the killer reception against the Patriots.

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by c_f (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:54am

... sending fantasy owners scrambling to replace Jericho Cotchery!

33
by Boston Dan :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 12:06pm

Braylon Edwards is on my fantasy team.

I dropped Ted Chin for the New Orleans D/ST yesterday.

Wish I could say I had spot for Massaquoi, but do not.

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 2:11pm

Massaquoi will be good, but fantasy wise, I am not sure he will be able to beat the double teams on every play. Edwards Stone Hands was double teamed on every play due to the team having no other break out TD threats. (I still like the trade, FYI)

He is still young and learning and it usually takes WR's 3 years to have an impact, especially fantasy wise.

I hope he is a beast. Rumors are he is exceptionally high football IQ and is icy cold emotionally (rare for a WR these days)

Massaquoi ICE. lol

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by MC2 :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:33pm

During his days at Georgia, Massaquoi always struck me as a smart player who works hard to improve his game, but may lack the physical tools to be a #1 WR in the NFL.

In other words, he's the anti-Braylon.

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by kevinM (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 2:00pm

People are really trying to hype up Chansi Stuckey?

C'mon Man!

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by Phil O'Sopher (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 2:14pm

People are trying to hype up Edwards Stone Hands?

C'Mon, Man!

lol I would have taken some kibbles and bits from the Jets for BE, but a 3rd and 5th, plus a #2/3 WR (which the Browns are desperate for)and special teams gunner/back-up LB (which the Browns always need, now for the starters)is sweet deal.

Hell Braylon will play his ass of these next 12 games due to the fact he is pumped about not being in the C-Town.

Once he signs that extension/free agent deal, then he will melt down completely. He is a mental midget and everyone knows it.

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by Led :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 2:38pm

Do you acknowledge at least the POSSIBILITY that Edwards was in a funk because he was stuck on a (no offense) loser franchise in Cleveland? That doesn't excuse his behavior and lack of effort, just like it didn't excuse Moss's lack of effort in Oakland. And he may well be a mental midget and he may never get it. That's certainly a possibility and maybe even a probability. But you can never really tell for sure about talented guys on last place teams.

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by Ephinz (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 3:04pm

Did the Jets give-up more for Edwards (Stuckey, special teamer, 3rd and 5th) than the Cowboys gaveup for Roy Williams (1st, 3rd, 6th and 7th)?

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by Sifter :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 5:17pm

Well I think the 3rd and 5th kinda equals the 3rd, 6th and 7th in value so what's left? Stuckey and special teamer for a 1st? Hell no, no one would ever make that trade. So the Cowboys gave up more for Roy.

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by Craig B (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 6:16pm

I don't understand why the Jets would give up so much. Unless the picks are a 6th and 7th, they are giving up about twice what the Patriots gave Al Davis for Randy Moss, and Braylon doesn't have either the physical talent or track record that Moss did. Although he hasn't been a disruption for as long, he has been as big a one on a peak value basis.

I can't see how the Browns can possibly come out on the short end of this deal. Many successful franchises have proven that the way to be consistently successful on the field is to keep your roster young and hungry by stockpiling draft picks. Many unsuccessful and mediocre franchises, including the Browns and the Redskins, have proven that the way to be consistently bad is to keep trading away youth for "name" value.

If a guy scores a touchdown once for every 5 passes he catches, but catches only about half the balls you throw to him, is he any more valuable than a chain-mover? I think that DVOA has the answer for that, and if I recall, the answer is "no."

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by Raiderjoe :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 8:54pm

B Edwards good if focus on football. When focus more on press clippings and beer bottel he then become medicore or even bad football player. c Stucky and J Trusnik okay players. Try hard but not gerat talents. Draft picks who knows about them with Browns drafting history probably going to mess it up and draft some bums.
Goodo trade for jets cause it is a gamble but that is what a gamble is you take a risk on something maybe it work and maybe it doesn't. Browns dont really care about talent. Manginu just wants players who dont get in trouble with law. He think he Mini belichick and can make medicore players play grrat. Well maybe M

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by Raiderjoe :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 8:55pm

hey how come messgae get cut off? Was only half of it show up. That is crap. maybe try to finish later after Modern Family is over.

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by Raiderjoe :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 10:12pm

mangini should focus more on keeping talented layers and making them focus more on football and not getting into trouble with law and beating lebaron James security officer. thats all can remember. wrote something about Larry Joshnon also.

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by Z-Dog (not verified) :: Wed, 10/07/2009 - 11:17pm

I'm just gonna chalk this deal up as the 'future considerations' portion of the deal for Sanchez. While Edwards is easily the best player in this deal, a 3rd, a 5th, a 2/3 WR and a special teams backer does seem a bit much for a guy with a list of on- and off-field issues.

But if you look at it as Jets give:

1.17, 2.20, next year's 3rd and 5th, DE Kenyon Coleman, S Abram Elam, QB Brett Ratliff, WR Chansi Stuckey, and LB Jason Trusnick

for

1.05 and Braylon Edwards

I think we'd all agree that the Jets came out ahead by a bunch.

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by hythlodaeus :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 7:21am

Remember when Derek Anderson, Kellen Winslow and Braylon Edwards were the cornerstones of one of the young passing attacks expected to dominate the AFC for the foreseeable future?

Boy, 2007 is a long time ago.

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by C (not verified) :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 12:27pm

The Browns had an offensive coordinator, Joe Thomas and Eric Steinback too. I watched the Browns/Denver game and it was like a sick joke.

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by mathesond :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 11:09am

Coach Ryan seems to have taken Braylon under his wing

(NSFW language)

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by Theo :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 3:41pm

I saw the thing on Bangcartoons, but what the fuck is this?! Damn that's hilarious.

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by Mr Shush :: Fri, 10/09/2009 - 8:02am

Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing me to that. I think I was already hoping that the Jets (who I always disliked prior to Ryan's hiring) would win the Superbowl. Now (given that there's no possibility of the Texans doing so) I definitely am.

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by Well-hung pot head (not verified) :: Thu, 10/08/2009 - 1:06pm

I've got to say, as a Jets fan -I was excited when I initially read about this in the usa today this morning.

But I had some time now so I went on this site to get some expert feedback-- and my goodness --- this sounds like it was a shitty deal. I liked Stucky's potential ... If Edwards is as much of a negative as I am now perceiving from my fellow pundits
--- YIKES!!

Thanks fellas ...

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