Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

05 May 2009

Marvin Harrison Won't Be Back...

...at least that's the word from Peter King's Twitter page:

I've been told reliably that Marvin Harrison's not playing any more. Knee hurts. Can't get healthy like the old Marvin.

Posted by: Doug Farrar on 05 May 2009

22 comments, Last at 07 May 2009, 9:13pm by shake n bake

Comments

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 6:49pm

I hope he doesn't return. For his own good.

I guess next time we'll hear from him is in 5 years in Canton...

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by MC2 :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 7:11pm

I imagine his induction speech will be something like:

"I'm a man of few words. Thank you."

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by Tundrapaddy (not verified) :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 7:32pm

Hm - I think that might be a bit too verbose for Harrison. Perhaps a simple, "Thanks."

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by Vincent Verhei :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 9:59pm

I see him walking to the podium, putting his fist over his heart, nodding softly, and sitting back down.

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by Bobman :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 1:27am

Those were all excellent. And very real possiblities.

Personally, I see him approaching the podium in white-face, and then pretending to be trapped inside a giant bubble for about five minutes.

How does one get a ticket for that event? I might treat myself for my 50th.

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by DZ (not verified) :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 7:33pm

I don't know if I should be happy I won't have to see him in another uniform, or just sad.

I'm leaning toward sad.

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by Spoon :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 8:15pm

The whole saga leading up to this has made me sad. I'm sad his career had to end this way, when he had a legitimate shot at Jerry Rice's records. 18 should have been throwing to 88 for another five years. I'm sad that their time together was cut short. But as sad as I am for all of that, since it's in the past now and there's nothing to be done about it, I'm happy to see that he's not suiting up for another team. I've come to terms with the reality that Marvin doesn't have the same measure of love for the city or the team as we fans had for him; that's just not the person he is. Still, there's some comfort for me to know that no other team will be able to claim him as theirs. It keeps the memories... well "pure" isn't the right word, but it's the first word that comes to mind. ($1 to Chuck Palahniuk)

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by malene, cph (not verified) :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 7:43pm

Peter King write very bad twitter. Peter King not understand: twitter not telegram. In Twitter possible actual prose only 140 chars. King like Tarzan of Twitter. King Tarzan, Favre Jane.

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by billycurley :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 7:52pm

This makes me think that raiderjoe would be amazing on twitter. All those parts of speech he refuses to use would enable him to pack even more RJ goodness into each tweet.

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by The Hypno-Toad :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 8:22pm

The question then becomes: what would be different? Aren't his posts essentially already in tweet-speek, or whatever the kids are calling it?

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by Spoon :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 8:08pm

Petel King Twittel no make me smire.

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by Wait, what? (not verified) :: Tue, 05/05/2009 - 8:43pm

If I had an account (don't feel like picking a name that doesn't have a question mark in it), "Peter King not understand: twitter not telegram" would be my signature. I can't stop laughing at this post. (I ignore both Peter King and Twitter, which maybe should make the joke less funny, but that doesn't appear to be the case.)

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by The universe is expanding (not verified) :: Thu, 05/07/2009 - 12:12am

You got it backward. Favre Tarzan, King Jane.

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by Pete (not verified) :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 9:31am

I hope Marvin is able to comfortably move on and enjoy the next phase of his life.

Which leads us to, "Will Favre be back?" (asks Peter King, I suspect)

I think Favre could be an improvement for the Vikings. However, I see a few potential problems.

1) At the end of last season he needed surgery. Has he had this surgery? Is he in rehab?

2) In December Favre's age caught up with him. He is probably not in as good of shape as he was in 2007 when he

worked with a trainer during the off-season. Perhaps he is preparing for this better. However, I still think

that players over a certain age will have a tougher time competing in a long season.

What are a few solutions if the Vikings want Favre and Favre wants to play for the Vikings?

1) Favre needs to either get surgery soon or do lots of training to get in shape.
2) Favre should be in camp, but not forced to do anything that would put strain on his body.
3) Favre should be a backup during the offseason and at the start of the season. This will give plenty of

competition between Jackson and Sagenfelds. Is either of these QB's a franchise QB? Almost certainly not. Is

one of them good enough to win games? Probably, although maybe not good enough to carry a team into the Super

Bowl.

I do not see Favre willing to be a backup. However, if he did then he could wait until mid-October to consider

starting. He would not wear out his body. Favre would be showing the Vikings that he is not a Diva with a Favre

-first mentality. Favre would also have time to know the system and players. Favre as a backup (incentive

clauses are nice for a modest number of starts/plays/passes, playoffs, and Super Bowl appearance and win).

Favre starting as a backup would be giving time to the other QB to let them try to prove themselves. This would

really allow Minnesota to do well this year and realize that they need a QB next year. Fortunately, next year is

a better year for drafting QB's, IMO.

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by lefty frizzell (not verified) :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 10:44am

Something about favre continually closing his eyes and heaving the ball down field as hard as he can might just be something the Vikes need to consider. man did he suck last year ! He made me long for Richard Todd . . . and that's bad. As far as I'm concerned his accomplishments rival those of Trent Dilfer ! Who is more over rated than Favre? Shockey ?

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by notafan (not verified) :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 11:13am

The commissioner will probably be flagged for interference when Harrison walks to the stage in Canton....

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by Spoon :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 12:28pm

Yeah! I mean, the only reason anyone could notch 1102 receptions for 14,580 and 128 TDs (all rank in the top five all-time) is because the refs were protecting him! It's not like Marvin ever made any great catches, like that one-handed diving grab against Tennessee, or that TD against New England where he had to tip the ball to himself just to be able to make a diving, toe-tapping grab against the sideline. Oh wait...

Seriously, that kind of dig is just weak, especially for a guy that played 11 seasons of Hall of Fame ball before being injured in 2007. I can only assume that you're referring to the re-interpretation of pass interference following the 2003 AFC Championship game? If so, I'd like to remind you that we're talking about a guy who caught a record 143 catches in 2002, well before that game was ever played.

Personally I'd like to see Keyshawn get invited to the induction, and have him miked for the event.

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by Bobman :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 2:50pm

Nice one. I had forgotten about him being miked for that game. Was that him? So long ago, but embarrassment never dies (I hope). No point in ever miking 88, as not only did he not speak, but he sat by himself at the end of the bench.

That would be another amusing HOF moment at his induction-- four other inductees all seated in a row and about ten feet apart at one extreme end, Marvin's chair.

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by shake n bake :: Wed, 05/06/2009 - 5:13pm

My favorite Marvin is quiet story will always be Reggie Wayne thinking Marvin hated him for a long time when he first got to Indy, because Marvin didn't talk to him or offer him advice. Finally either he realized it or someone told him that Marvin is just like that. Then Reggie got the drill. You get help from Marvin by asking Marvin for help, you have conversations with Marvin by talking to Marvin. If left alone he stays alone.

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by Anonymous* (not verified) :: Thu, 05/07/2009 - 12:05am

Why do I get the feeling that some of the posts weren't written by King? Let's see:
"Peter King: Eagles put on a draft clinic http://tinyurl.com/cakclc"

Would Peter King write that he wrote an article about the Eagles, or would he just say "Eagle put on a draft clinic http://tinyurl/whatever"

Also, twitter tells you where the post originated. A bunch of Peter's replies come from TwitterBerry, which I assume is a way to read and write twitter posts from your BlackBerry. Others are from the web (i.e. actually going to Twitter.com). The ones that link to King's articles (and say "Peter King:" at the beginning of them) are from twitterfeed.com.

I think it's obvious that the ones from twitterfeed are posted by an SI intern.

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by AlanSP :: Thu, 05/07/2009 - 2:11pm

I don't know. This seems like sort of a sad way for him to go out, though of course if he doesn't want to play or if he's worried about his health, he shouldn't.

I guess it just sort of bothers me that we have the annual hoopla with Brett Favre, and vast quantities of real and virtual ink spilled about his retirement or lack thereof, but when one of the top few receivers to ever play the game looks to be hanging it up, it barely gets a mention (though I guess people are justified in waiting for it to be official).

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by shake n bake :: Thu, 05/07/2009 - 9:13pm

Harrison's agent say PK is totally wrong. Marvin wants to play.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/05/07/agent-marvin-harrison-healthy-not-planni...