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17 Aug 2009

Saints Release Jason David

No word yet on whether they'll sign Hole In Zone....

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 17 Aug 2009

16 comments, Last at 18 Aug 2009, 9:24pm by CoachDave

Comments

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by Just Another Falcons Fan (not verified) :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 2:04pm

Odd, I thought Hole in Zone was already on the roster and this meant he had won the training camp battle.

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by Doug Farrar :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 2:12pm

Last I saw of HiZ, he was on the Seahawks' roster, covering the deep middle and helping Kelly Jennings and Kevin Hobbs give up 30-yard sideline bombs to absolutely everybody in the preseason opener. Now, HiZ will be released, because if there's one thing Seahawks president Tim Ruskell loves, it's height-impaired corners who struggle with man-on-man downfield. Jason, you're coming home!

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by Doug Farrar :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 2:14pm

Last I saw of HiZ, he was on the Seahawks' roster, covering the deep middle and helping Kelly Jennings and Kevin Hobbs give up 30-yard sideline bombs to absolutely everybody in the preseason opener. Now, HiZ will be released, because if there's one thing Seahawks president Tim Ruskell loves, it's height-impaired corners who struggle with man-on-man downfield. Jason, you're coming home!

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by DavidL :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 3:02pm

Hole in Zone signed a seven-year deal with the Lions last year to play free safety.

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by Bobman :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 3:57pm

Doug, I beg to differ; I thought HiZ was manning the Colts OL last game. Three sacks in Manning's six snaps? Or does HiZ have a cousin: HiL? (HILOS? sounds like a sci-fi villain.)

I suspect David will have no problem finding a job at a diner, as the basis for a tuna melt perhaps.

Actually, it might be nice to celebrate his career--he was fast but tiny and very determined. Despite being a 4th rounder, I felt he was a long shot to even make the Colts as a rookie, he ended up contributing pretty well in the T-2 when called on. Great rookie year! A lot of heart. Plus, there aren't many NFL players I can look down on, physically. With Flutie retired, David was about it!

The Saints paid too much and used him wrong, IMO, leaving him with the stench of burnt toast. No idea how smart he is, but it's generaslly guys like him--who did not have titanic skills but worked hard--who tend to make good coaches. Of course since he's from WAZU I now have to punish myself like Dobby for saying something nice about him.

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by justanothersteve :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 6:35pm

HiL and HiZ: Twin sons of different mothers.

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by CoachDave :: Tue, 08/18/2009 - 9:24pm

For a guy who I called Jason "Toast" David when he played at Indy...I think the burnt toast/diner references are well-placed.

Here's to another player who parlayed being a contributing member of a Super Bowl winning team to an outlandish contract they didn't deserve.

Well done Mr. David...hope you didn't blow all of the signing bonus.

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by Dan :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 3:52pm

I thought that the Bears brought HiZ back to jump slant routes.

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by Jeff M. (not verified) :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 4:42pm

They gave up 2 first round picks for him after the Saints had tagged HiZ as their franchise player.

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 5:43pm

Cutler threw 8 picks to him in 7-on-7 on Monday

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by Theo :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 7:10pm

HiZ is signed to cover the flats in the Niners secondary. I saw him play in the first pre season game.

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by Theo :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 7:18pm

On a side note, but a very important one...
where does the term 'hole in zone' come from? I remember it was a saints game and I thought Jason David and his fellow safety (who I remember was just as bad) just covered like... like... nothing. I've seen pop warner do better.
What game was it and where was it coined?

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by Dan :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 7:36pm

I believe it came from the game charting numbers, where passes thrown at David had a higher ypa than those marked hole in zone. Let's see, here it is: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2007/charting-defensive-b...

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by Dan :: Mon, 08/17/2009 - 7:44pm

What does it say about the Bears secondary that I'm seriously considering whether it would be a good idea for them to pick up David and let him compete for a starting job?

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by Jimmy :: Tue, 08/18/2009 - 7:47am

That the Bears best two corners are currently injured.

I get what you mean about the secondary, why so many changes? From the start of minicamps to the expected lineup on opening day there seem to have been four or five guys playing with the first unit at every position other than RCB (Vasher) and from all appearances Vasher is washed up anyway. I know they have had injuries but why play musical chairs with quite such gay abandon?

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by socctty :: Tue, 08/18/2009 - 1:56pm

At a certain point, the YPA figures for Hole-in-Zone vs. Jason David reflect that his teammates trusted him too much, right? That they never learned in practice that David had a propensity for getting burned.