09 Mar 2010
Seneca Wallace has been traded to the Browns for a late-round pick. Cleveland followed this up by waiving Derek Anderson on Tuesday.
30 comments, Last at 27 Mar 2010, 4:21am by sports-veronica
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Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
OK! So this works good for Cleveland if Holmgren fits Seneca with a shock collar that automatically activates if he gets within two yards of the sideline without passing the ball.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
With Wallace and Cribbs, the Browns could actually try to run the option as their base offense. Not that it would work, but they could try.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
As someone who charts pretty much every Seahawks game, let me be the first to say: Hooray!
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
As an AFCN fan, let me be the first to say: sad face.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Well, for three of the four teams in the AFC North, this is good news, so that should make you feel a little happier.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
It goes without saying that this is pretty baffling. Exactly what has Seneca Wallace done that would inspire enough confidence that you would want to trade for him?
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Derek Anderson
Brady Quinn
Brett Ratliff
The reason is what the Browns QBs already on the roster haven't done.
But yeah, it would be better if the standard of a rebuilding team is set a little above the original Seneca Wallace. (The clone mopes on the bench in Baltimore.)
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Mike Holmgren worked with Wallace every day in practice for the first four years of his career. Obviously he saw more there than Wallace has shown on the field. And it's not like they gave up the farm to get him.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
I think even when you account for a fluky low interception rate, Wallace was pretty good in 2008. I don't remember any of those "scrambles" for negative yardage instead of throwing the ball away prior to last season. I am willing to blame them, like so many other things, on Greg Knapp and Jim Mora.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
^This. When Wallace took over for Hassleback at the end of the 08 season, he played well. He's not as bad as everyone is making him out to be. I actually like this move, considering their options. He can be a decent stopgap for a season. He's easily better than Anderson or Quinn.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
I know, but Wallace is an eight-year veteran. There's been plenty of opportunity for him to show it on the field, no? And, cheap or no, you're basically adding yet another guy who can't really play QB well to the fold. It seems his best selling point is "occasionally decent more often than Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson usually are".
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Exactly, Vince. Remember when Matt Hasselbeck sucked at first in Seattle, but Holmgren stuck with him?
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
I'm all for patience, but they guy's been in the league for 8 years--4 working with Holmgren. At this rate he'll finally be good enough to play on the same day he's ready to retire.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
This article would get more hits if it was titled "Browns Acquire NFL-Record Fourth Below-Replacement-Level-QB"?
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
So much for my Troy Smith to Cleveland prediction that I have been making the past two years.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Wallace is a backup NFL QB. He mixes it up... He's Steaming Willie Beamin.
For all these people that get off because he's fast, and think he's like what Michael Vick was supposed to be you are kidding yourself. People aren't that stupid anymore, but a couple of years ago they thought he'd be like the ultimate weapon or something.
I'd rather have him as a backup QB than say... David Carr, but hes not starter material. To short, not a good passer, he's just a gimmeck that can fill in for 2-3 games per year.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
"all these people that get off because he's fast, and think he's like what Michael Vick was supposed to be"
Where are "all these people"? Do they exist outside your head? He's been in the league eight years, and I have yet to see anyone flying the "Free Seneca" flag.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
I've always liked his mustache...
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Go to some of the gambling forumns.
Some people would back Seattle and would argue that Senecca should start, and that the sky was the limit for his potential...
He can fill in for a game here or game there, but he isn't even close to being an NFL starting QB.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
I take it this means Seattle is likely drafting a QB early. Who else did they have behind Hasselback?
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Mike Teel, from Rutgers, is the backup. Rutgers baby! lol
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Bye, Derek, nice to know you.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
You know, the Browns traded a Charlie Frye to the Seahawks a few years ago. Do these teams like trading crappy quarterbacks to each other?
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
Boy, I sure hope Brett Ratliff looks good in blue.
Re: Browns Acquire Seneca Wallace
I always liked Seneca.... Is that cause he has good speed and I love a good scrambler in madden? Quite possibly... but still.
Re: Browns: Enter Wallace, Exit Anderson
Should trade for McNabb and release/trade Quinn as well
Wallace can be back-up and Cribbs/Wallace Wild Cat runner and McNabb can be one year stop gap until we find some one that can be the future
Re: Browns: Enter Wallace, Exit Anderson
Except that McNabb isn't actually on the trade market.
Re: Browns: Enter Wallace, Exit Anderson
Wildcat as the base offense? If you ran it with Wallace and Cribbs you have 2 guys with quasi-legitimate passing ability, which would be pretty interesting. Not sure they have the blocking to make it work besides Joe Thomas.
Re: Browns: Enter Wallace, Exit Anderson
That might work--if it were high school. Wildcat is great, but it's the equivalent of a trick play. You run it every once in a while to catch the defense off guard. And the only reason it works is the defense has limited time prepping for it because they're spending the vast majority of time on your normal offense. Running it as a base offense would work about as well as running a flea-flicker every single play.
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