Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

09 Mar 2010

Browns: Enter Wallace, Exit Anderson

Seneca Wallace has been traded to the Browns for a late-round pick. Cleveland followed this up by waiving Derek Anderson on Tuesday.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 09 Mar 2010

30 comments, Last at 27 Mar 2010, 4:21am by sports-veronica

Comments

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by BigWoody (not verified) :: Mon, 03/08/2010 - 11:00pm

OK! So this works good for Cleveland if Holmgren fits Seneca with a shock collar that automatically activates if he gets within two yards of the sideline without passing the ball.

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by T. Diddy :: Mon, 03/08/2010 - 11:00pm

With Wallace and Cribbs, the Browns could actually try to run the option as their base offense. Not that it would work, but they could try.

3
by Vince Verhei :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:17am

As someone who charts pretty much every Seahawks game, let me be the first to say: Hooray!

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by Mike Kurtz :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 10:05am

As an AFCN fan, let me be the first to say: sad face.

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by TomKelso :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 6:37pm

Well, for three of the four teams in the AFC North, this is good news, so that should make you feel a little happier.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:26am

It goes without saying that this is pretty baffling. Exactly what has Seneca Wallace done that would inspire enough confidence that you would want to trade for him?

5
by loneweasel (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:36am

Derek Anderson
Brady Quinn
Brett Ratliff

The reason is what the Browns QBs already on the roster haven't done.

But yeah, it would be better if the standard of a rebuilding team is set a little above the original Seneca Wallace. (The clone mopes on the bench in Baltimore.)

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by Vince Verhei :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:53am

Mike Holmgren worked with Wallace every day in practice for the first four years of his career. Obviously he saw more there than Wallace has shown on the field. And it's not like they gave up the farm to get him.

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by Kevin Pelton :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 1:30am

I think even when you account for a fluky low interception rate, Wallace was pretty good in 2008. I don't remember any of those "scrambles" for negative yardage instead of throwing the ball away prior to last season. I am willing to blame them, like so many other things, on Greg Knapp and Jim Mora.

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by Johnny (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 9:32am

^This. When Wallace took over for Hassleback at the end of the 08 season, he played well. He's not as bad as everyone is making him out to be. I actually like this move, considering their options. He can be a decent stopgap for a season. He's easily better than Anderson or Quinn.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 10:18am

I know, but Wallace is an eight-year veteran. There's been plenty of opportunity for him to show it on the field, no? And, cheap or no, you're basically adding yet another guy who can't really play QB well to the fold. It seems his best selling point is "occasionally decent more often than Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson usually are".

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by The Ninjalectual :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 6:06pm

Exactly, Vince. Remember when Matt Hasselbeck sucked at first in Seattle, but Holmgren stuck with him?

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by sundown (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 7:49pm

I'm all for patience, but they guy's been in the league for 8 years--4 working with Holmgren. At this rate he'll finally be good enough to play on the same day he's ready to retire.

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by Anonymous2 (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 1:31am

This article would get more hits if it was titled "Browns Acquire NFL-Record Fourth Below-Replacement-Level-QB"?

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by mjb :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 1:39am

So much for my Troy Smith to Cleveland prediction that I have been making the past two years.

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by C (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 9:42am

Wallace is a backup NFL QB. He mixes it up... He's Steaming Willie Beamin.

For all these people that get off because he's fast, and think he's like what Michael Vick was supposed to be you are kidding yourself. People aren't that stupid anymore, but a couple of years ago they thought he'd be like the ultimate weapon or something.

I'd rather have him as a backup QB than say... David Carr, but hes not starter material. To short, not a good passer, he's just a gimmeck that can fill in for 2-3 games per year.

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by Xao (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 10:44am

"all these people that get off because he's fast, and think he's like what Michael Vick was supposed to be"

Where are "all these people"? Do they exist outside your head? He's been in the league eight years, and I have yet to see anyone flying the "Free Seneca" flag.

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by Nathan :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 5:24pm

I've always liked his mustache...

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 03/10/2010 - 10:34am

Go to some of the gambling forumns.

Some people would back Seattle and would argue that Senecca should start, and that the sky was the limit for his potential...

He can fill in for a game here or game there, but he isn't even close to being an NFL starting QB.

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by justanothersteve :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 11:17am

I take it this means Seattle is likely drafting a QB early. Who else did they have behind Hasselback?

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by Johnny (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:11pm

Mike Teel, from Rutgers, is the backup. Rutgers baby! lol

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by commissionerleaf :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:47pm

Bye, Derek, nice to know you.

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by JoeD (not verified) :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 1:20pm

You know, the Browns traded a Charlie Frye to the Seahawks a few years ago. Do these teams like trading crappy quarterbacks to each other?

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 2:55pm

Boy, I sure hope Brett Ratliff looks good in blue.

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by BigDerf :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 3:50pm

I always liked Seneca.... Is that cause he has good speed and I love a good scrambler in madden? Quite possibly... but still.

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by Phil Osopher :: Tue, 03/09/2010 - 7:28pm

Should trade for McNabb and release/trade Quinn as well

Wallace can be back-up and Cribbs/Wallace Wild Cat runner and McNabb can be one year stop gap until we find some one that can be the future

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by Dean :: Wed, 03/10/2010 - 10:02am

Except that McNabb isn't actually on the trade market.

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by turbohappy (not verified) :: Wed, 03/10/2010 - 12:11pm

Wildcat as the base offense? If you ran it with Wallace and Cribbs you have 2 guys with quasi-legitimate passing ability, which would be pretty interesting. Not sure they have the blocking to make it work besides Joe Thomas.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Wed, 03/10/2010 - 2:26pm

That might work--if it were high school. Wildcat is great, but it's the equivalent of a trick play. You run it every once in a while to catch the defense off guard. And the only reason it works is the defense has limited time prepping for it because they're spending the vast majority of time on your normal offense. Running it as a base offense would work about as well as running a flea-flicker every single play.

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