Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

18 Mar 2010

Eagles Waive Kevin Curtis

The Eagles have cut wide receiver Kevin Curtis.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 18 Mar 2010

35 comments, Last at 21 Mar 2010, 5:12pm by The Ninjalectual

Comments

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by Alex51 :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 6:11pm

Not a huge shock. The Eagles' WR corps was getting a bit crowded with Baskett back in the fold, and Curtis is the oldest of the group. And even if he were to stay completely healthy, he'd probably only be the 3rd or 4th best WR on the team.

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by Nathan :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 6:12pm

I kind of liked this guy. Back when he was the Eagles only decent option he put up some ok numbers. I wonder if the injuries have taken his speed away.

Also, I'd like to formally apologize for thinking the Eagles made a mistake by drafting Desean Jackson when Limas Sweed was available and Curtis was already on the roster. Um yeah, called that one wrong.... woah.

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by MJK :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 6:20pm

If you keep on owning up to being overly pessimistic about the Eagles personnel decisions, admitting when you were wrong, and being rational, you're going to get your Eagles Fan Membership Card revoked...

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by Nathan :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 6:24pm

Is there someone I can throw batteries/snowballs at to get it back?

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by Jerry :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 11:22pm

Santa Claus?

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by bingo762 :: Sat, 03/20/2010 - 5:10am

Yeah, maybe if you had a time machine and could go back...oh, I don't know...a hundred years

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by Danish Denver-Fan :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 6:29pm

I always, for some reason, like that guy. Maybe it's being white and gritty and all.. the Welker effect...

Why was he drafted as a 25 year old - that seems pretty late?

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by Nathan :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 6:35pm

He's Mormon and went on a mission after college.

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by Dan :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 7:02pm

They'll always have Detroit.

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by HostileGospel :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 7:03pm

Better late than never... 3 games, 6 receptions, 77 yards in 2009. Sorta weird that he stuck around this long, given that the team didn't show an interest in playing him even when he was healthy.

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There's a place I want to be. It's the NovaCare Center. That's in Philadelphia. One NovaCare Way, where the Eagles practice and then they eat cafeteria food and they watch film and we eat and we have fun.

-Donovan McNabb

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by C (not verified) :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 9:15pm

I remember when Kevin Curtis had something like 200 yards in one half a few years ago. It might have even been the game the Eagles were wearing the FUBU Jerseys. Maybe they were playing the Jets or maybe it was the 49ers blowout?

All I remember is that the Eagles tore the other team a new one, and I knew I won my bet about 2 series into the game, and then tried to figure out what game that I would spend most of my attention on because it was done.

I guess the story is that Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard and got a 48 on his woderlic test, and then retook the test and got a perfect 50/50. I thought they said that Kevin Curtis scored a 49/50 in his first attempt.

Now book smarts don't mean you have street smarts, but that dude can sure take a standardized test and I think he learned the Eagles version of the West Coast offense very quickly. If he can stay healthy I am sure he can be useful for some team... even if he did lose a little bit of speed or not. Not everybody can even understand these offenses.

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by The Human Spider :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 12:36am

The game that Curtis got 200 yards in one half was against the Detroit Lions. Enough said.

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by Jimmy :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 5:59am

I guess the story is that Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard and got a 48 on his woderlic test, and then retook the test and got a perfect 50/50. I thought they said that Kevin Curtis scored a 49/50 in his first attempt.

I heard this story and one of the best bits is that Curtis used to take the piss out of Fitpatrick for not getting a perfeoct score and then one reporter asked how he had gotten such a high score and Curtis admitted to having guessed the last fifteen or so answers at the end of the test and got really lucky.

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by C (not verified) :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 11:46am

What do a lot of smart people or perfectionists say after they took a test... " I think I did bad". It could just be Curtis stirring the pot. The odds of him guessing correctly on 14/15 multiple choice questions are slim to none. I'll let some of the statistically gifted people around here figure out the odds on that one.

I took the Wonderlic and had a similar feel to the test. There were about 35 questions that I was pretty sure I answered correctly, and then you start to worry about the time constraint and I had about 15 questions that I narrowed down to two and took my best guess. The test is about speed just as much as it is about smarts. Anybody with above average intelligence can most likely get 40+ on the test, but when you have approx. 18 seconds per question you have to move quickly.

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by Whatev (not verified) :: Sat, 03/20/2010 - 2:17am

Or more precisely it's about the kind of smarts that is about speed--which is probably appropriate, since time is at a premium during a play. The test is supposed to be tuned so that an average person gets a 20 (though it's hard to make it exactly 20), and the time constraint is definitely a large part of that tuning.

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by Dean :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 9:21am

They're one injury away from really regretting releasing Curtis. Yes, he was overpaid, but he was still a productive player. I wonder if there were any discussions about redoing his deal?

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by Eddo :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 10:41am

True. But isn't it also true that Curtis is probably more likely to get injured than any other receiver on the roster? He's not exactly shown he has the skill of health.

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by Dean :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 10:58am

If they were relying on him starting for 16 games, perhaps. But as a #4/insurance policy, I'd much rather have him than some rookie.

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by jimbohead :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 11:20am

but don't you usually want #4 recievers to have some ST value? You don't carry extra guys around just as insurance against injury; they have to actually contribute.

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by Dean :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 11:58am

They typically dress 5 WR/game. Baskett would do the lions share of the special teams. I'm sure the game charters would be able to tell you what % of the plays were 4 WR packages, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't a relatively high number. Even as a #4, I could see Curtis on the field for 25% of the plays. With a rookie, who knows?

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by Kevin from Philly :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 3:46pm

He was due over $4 mil this year - a very expensive insurance policy.

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by Dean :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 4:13pm

That's why I wondered about redoing his deal in my original comment.

Also, better to pay $4 million to backup WR for 25% of the snaps, 25 catches, and the potential for more if someone gets hurt rather than paying $5.25 million for a 3rd string QB who was a 52% passer on a 7-9 team 3 years ago and downhill from there.

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by Tim Wilson :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 9:01am

To quote an Eagles fan friend:

"It's like the last 15 minutes of the Godfather in Philadelphia right now. Andrews, Curtis, Darren Howard...I think Stacey Andrews has his phone unplugged right now."

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by Kevin from Philly :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 3:58pm

Today, uh we settled hmmh huh all family business. Carlo's out with a neck injury, uh no timetable for his return. Hmmh hah Mo Green has an eye. We took Tessio out as a hmhh precaution. Uhhh Brazzini is out, umm he'll have an MRI tomorrow. Hmm.. uh, yeah I DO renounce hmh Satan. Uh, hmmh time's yours.

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by Dean :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 4:11pm

Nice!

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by Dean :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 9:14am

Clearly, the team is looking at the uncapped year as a temporary thing with the expectation that there will be a cap again, and they have a chance to get out from under all their big contracts.

• They release Brian Westbrook and Eagles fans whine about what once was.
• They release Big Shawn and Eagles fans whine about what once was and might conceivably be again, but realistically won’t ever be again.
• They trade Reggie Brown and Eagles fans whine about what never quite was.
• They release ‘Spoon and Eagles fans whine about a contract some other team negotiated.
• They release Darren Howard and Eagles fans whine that the team is cheap, despite the fact that they paid a premium for him in the first place.
• They release Kevin Curtis and Eagles fans whine because he got passed on the depth chart by guys who are/project to possibly some day be Pro Bowl players.
• They release Jason Babin and Eagles fans whine because – OK, nobody gives a d@mn about Jason Babin.

Taken individually, all these moves make sense. Taken collectively, I have to wonder what it means for 2010. Also, if you’re cutting guys who can play just because of their contract, and you’re cutting guys who can’t play just because of their contract, then WHY THE #@$%^&* ARE YOU NOT CUTTING THE #$%^&* DOG KILLER?????

For that matter, although it pains me to say it, if you’re going with kids, then you may as well trade #5, too.

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by ChaosOnion (not verified) :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 10:05am

I am not whining. Every single one of those moves makes sense. I am surprised that 'Spoon was cut with the issues at LB, but I hear he looked really back on tape. Value would have been nice for Curtis, but his is aging. He will make a great slot somewhere, but he was never fit for a #1 WR role.

As for the QB situation, if McNabb is traded it will be one of those draft day coups that make Mel Kiper's hair stand up and and Todd McShay's hair lay down. I am more and more convinced that will happen and he will be dealt to move up and take one of the stud guards or tackles. It is a deep draft, so if Reid is going to move up for anything, it will be one of his favorite big uglies. The offense was at its best when Shawn was mauling on the inside.

I can see Vick being dealt the second day.

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by Kevin from Philly :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 4:00pm

Hurricane Katrina couldn't make Kipers hair stand up.

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by bingo762 :: Sat, 03/20/2010 - 5:14am

troll 2

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by bingo762 :: Sat, 03/20/2010 - 5:19am

Hold up. this ass clown talks shit on Eagles fans then says: "you’re cutting guys who can’t play just because of their contract, then WHY THE #@$%^&* ARE YOU NOT CUTTING THE #$%^&* DOG KILLER?????" Like the "you" or "you're" in those sentences has any say over personnel moves. Get bent, loser.

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by Jimmy :: Sat, 03/20/2010 - 10:37am

It isn't that unusual a method of discussing a team. I don't think anyone else who read that post thought it was actually supposed to be directed to Andy Reid directly. I am also pretty sure that the poster is an Eagles fan.

(To all other readers I apologise for feeding the troll.)

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by The Ninjalectual :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 9:36am

I guess it's so obvious that Curtis will sign in Chicago to sling the ol' pigskin around the ol' backyard with Martz again that nobody commented about it yet.

"Just look at that pumpkin."
-John Madden, looking at the moon.

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by Mr Shush :: Fri, 03/19/2010 - 1:35pm

Only explanation I can think of. One to pick up in the last few rounds of your fantasy draft, methinks.

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by Jimmy :: Sat, 03/20/2010 - 10:31am

The Bears aren't any more likely to sign Curtis than they were to sign Holt. They have plenty of youth and potential at receiver, why sign an old guy. There once was a time when Curtis hadn't played in a Martz offense either. The Bears have Hester, Knox, Bennett, Aromashodu as their first four WRs together with Iglesisas (who looks to have gotten the Bennett rookie treatment) and Rashied Davis (who holds onto his roster spot through specials play). The only way a WR cracks that lot is if he can play specials and possibly if he provides a physical prescence that is missing (ie 6'3", 225lbs). Otherwise you would just be bringing in an older player to take reps away from the young receivers as they learn a new system.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Sun, 03/21/2010 - 5:12pm

Martz has time to develop young receivers? I would have thought he needs to win now to keep his job.

"Just look at that pumpkin."
-John Madden, looking at the moon.