Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

08 Dec 2010

Matt Cassel Out For Sunday?

Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel underwent an appendectomy on Wednesday, forcing him to miss practice.

Kansas City is listing him as questionable for this weekend, but have said that they "expect him to return to work this week." I doubt he'll end up playing; in our injury database, there's no player to have undergone an appendectomy and returned within a week. There were guys who didn't miss time, like Hines Ward in 2002, but that's because their surgery occurred before the season and gave them two weeks to heal before the season began.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 08 Dec 2010

35 comments, Last at 10 Dec 2010, 5:31pm by chemical burn

Comments

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by Raiderjoe :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 6:44pm

More better chabce for SD Chargers to win nwo. Raiders goign to be one game back after they ebat Jakcsonville and Charegsr beat Chiefs.

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by Lebo :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 6:56pm

This sucks so much balls.

I turned down a trade for Vick in the first half of the season (because I didn't think he'd remain the starter) instead preferring to stick with Cassel. Now Cassel's out with a freakin' appendectomy the week I play Vick in the playoffs.

Stupid irony.

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by BJR :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 7:41pm

I'm sure Cassel is gutted about the impact on your fantasy team too.

Seriously, this is appalling timing. The Chiefs have the chance to ice the division with a win in San Diego on Sunday. It's gonna be a dogfight to the finish now.

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by Theo :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 7:52pm

that's not irony

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by Retire FireOmarTomlin (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 12:55am

It's more like rain on your wedding day.

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by Lebo :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 5:36am

You don't think it's ironic that the very reason I passed on Vick is the now reason I'm heading to the waver wire to pick up Ryan Fitzpatrick or Jon Kitna the week I play Vick in the playoffs? I think that's very ironic.

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by Malene, Copenhagen (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 7:10am

Welcome to the internets. You must be new here.

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by Theo :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 6:50am

Rain on your wedding day is only irony if you're the weatherguy.

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by Malene, Copenhagen (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 7:12am

Rain on your wedding day is only irony if you're marrying the weather guy solely because you thought he would give you the best chance of predicting a date for a sunny wedding day.

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by Not Jimmy (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 12:56pm

Or a free ride when you're already late...

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by Not Jimmy (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 12:58pm

Wow - I meant "you've already paid."

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by BigCheese :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 6:02pm

I always thought it was "when you're already there." You learn something every day I guess...

- Alvaro

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by BigCheese :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 6:04pm

I think it's more like good advice that you just didn't take.

- Alvaro

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by JFP (not verified) :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 7:43pm

What a blow for the Chiefs. I worked with a guy in his mid twenties and in good shape who missed three weeks due to an appendectomy, and that was just office work. At least they should get him back for the playoffs.

Figures Raiderjoe (the real one?) was the first to comment on this story.

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by Theo :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 7:54pm

RJ is a verified member so there can be only one.

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by KCFan (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:06pm

How did he manage to register all by himself?

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by Mr Derp (not verified) :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 8:17pm

depending on his healing and the method used, he could miss two games. it might make the week 17 game vs. the raiders a winner take all game. That is in Arrowhead so my money would be on the Chiefs in freezing temps in January.

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by PatsFan :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 8:25pm

Well, presumably these days they do it laproscopically vs. cut through abdominal muscles, so hopefully he'll be able to recover quickly.

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by Theo :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 9:40pm

yes but even then you're out for a week for the wound to heal.
he won't play, he can play next week in good conditions

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by ericb (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:18am

Even when done laparoscopically the surgeon still has to cut through the abdominal wall. My daughter, a rower, had her appendix removed late August and we spoke to several doctors and got the same message back - that it would take 6 weeks to recover in order to avoid risk of a hernia. I guess a pro athlete could heal faster and maybe the doctors were just extra cautious with my daughter.

Now, maybe they did something with Cassel to avoid this risk, but at a minimum they would have had to use a gas to inflate the abdomen and that takes about a week or so to dissipate and can be painful as the gas rises up to the shoulders..sort of an issue for a QB.

Anyhow, I hope he's OK and doesn't take a stupid risk.

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by Raiderjoe :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 8:39pm

Shoudl only miss one game. Vrewy surprising if he misses two.

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by Reinhard (not verified) :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 8:52pm

Yeah even from a few years ago they have totally changed the procedure to use arthroscopic techniques. Just a couple of tiny scars. No need to ply all the muscle fibers in the stomach aside. Recovery time is exponentially lower.

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by Independent George :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:20am

Shouldn't that be logarithmically lower?

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by Dwayne Bowe Bright (not verified) :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 10:12pm

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by Frvwfr2 (not verified) :: Wed, 12/08/2010 - 11:44pm

When I got my appendix removed 2 years ago, they did the laproscopic thing, and I wouldn't have been able to do anything like play in a football game for a few weeks at least... Now, it was over summer, not a job that I needed to get back to, but still, based on my experience, I wouldn't expect him back in 2 weeks.

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by GO PATS (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 12:21am

well according to NFL Network, they spoke to a surgeon who does this type of surgery and he said that as long as he is not in any pain, there is no reason he cannot play plus KC has not ruled him out. Looks like he will play with a heavy emphasis on the run game.

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by CroMag-anon (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 2:24am

Better to give Cassel the week to recover regardless. Haley's "gut" should tell him that the Chargers in SD is a tough one and that he'll need his best for the final three.

On another note, last I checked, the Raiders play well in the cold and have taken the past three at Narrowhead. Should be an exciting three-team finish in the AFC West.

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by BJR :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 7:52am

Except that if they win this one, it's more or less done. The Chargers certainly couldn't catch them.

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by Whatev :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 8:29am

If they lose, though, things will probably get complicated. The Chiefs are unlikely to hold tiebreakers against either the Chargers or Raiders, and the Chargers' schedule after this week is pretty soft. If they lose and the Raiders win, the Raiders too will be in striking distance. If that happens, I'd say their currently pretty rosy playoff picture will look pretty grim.

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by Kulko :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:05am

Pro-Football Forecaster still sees them as slight fav to win the AFCW even when they lose that one.

Thats based on AdvancedNFLStats Numbers, which really love SD (#1 team in the NFL), so I would assume that even when they lose they should have a 60% chance of making it.

OTOH when they lose the game and Cassel to some aggravating injury, the season should be shot. So I would rather play it save for now and put my money on Charles and the SD Special Teams to win it for me.

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by AudacityOfHoops :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 8:00pm

If they lose, they still control their own destiny by winning the last 3. It only gets complicated if they lose again after that. Which could certainly happen, as @Rams and vsRaiders are no gimmes.

(Did I really just write that last sentence?)

Even if they lose @Rams, if they win their last 2, and San Diego loses one more, they're in.

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by TTP (not verified) :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:37am

Ben Roethlisberger had an emergency appendectomy on the Sunday before the Thursday night opener (vs Miami) of the 2006 season. He didn't play. So, I don't see Cassel playing in this game.

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by MJK :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 12:40pm

Funny how the loss of a QB that was pretty universally panned last year (and the year before, by all but NE fans) is causing such consternation.

What a difference a year makes! I guess Cassel has really started to get it.

Sucks that he gets sidelined for such an important game!

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by greybeard :: Thu, 12/09/2010 - 7:33pm

I agree with your overall take on Cassel on how he has become much better QB and more important to his team.
Having said that, I think it matters who the backup and the opponents are. I don't think people would have been worried as much if they were playing Panthers or Cardinals this week.

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by chemical burn :: Fri, 12/10/2010 - 5:31pm

Or, as you said, if his back-up weren't Brodie Croyle. This game looks like it could be for all the AFC West marbles: you want your best players on the field in that situation, even if the best you got is Matt Cassel.