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22 Feb 2010
MMQB: Combine Observations and More
In this episode: PK talks about what the Combine doesn't show, Troy Vincent's new job, which restricted or unrestricted free agent receivers might pop loose, why he's still unhappy with Bryant McKinnie, and his Olympic thoughts.
12 comments, Last at 22 Feb 2010, 9:42pm by Signor Sack
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Re: MMQB: Combine Observations and More
Bill Polian
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Bill Parcells
He said that exact same thing publicly when he was on ESPN.
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Al Davis.
He's speaking from experience.
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Peter understates the importance of the combine. The combine is important -- but the important parts are the parts you don't see: the medical examination of all players and the player interviews with teams that take place at night. I can't imagine that any team really has their draft board set, especially the latter rounds of their board, without important full medical information on all players.
The combine *as you see it on television* isn't that important.
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"I'm convinced if you took the stopwatches away from a lot of these guys, most of 'em would not be able to tell you whether they liked a player or not."
Then take them away. I'd love to see a team show up with only the GM and a scout or two, or like an injured participant only show up for the interview process.
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Re. McKinnie's penalty:
"Who in the world thought he was getting the $22,500 in the first place, after being whacked from the team the day before the game? That's no penalty. That's an expectation."
Don't all the players who are selected but bow out of the game for various reasons still get paid? If that's the case, then his getting docked the game check isn't totally insignificant.
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PK manages to get the wrong end of the stick on the HOF WR options. The problem with the logjam is that Monk and Hayes shouldn't have gone in. Reed, Carter and Brown should have gone in long before Monk or Hayes but there was always the junk about whether Monk would get in. Now every WR with a lot of catches or yards for a major franchise is going to have a similar campaign for his enshrinement, as quite a few are going to have numbers way better than Monk's in a few years. The response should be that Monk shouldn't have gotten in but I suspect it won't.
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The real problem with the logjam is that people want to look at raw totals with no context. PK has a list with total receptions and total TDs. He doesn't even talk about yards, not to mention yards per catch, yards per game (a very underrated stat), catches per game. We don't even have catch rate for a lot of these guys, forget about DYAR and DVOA, and particularly in Monk's case since he played a few years earlier than the rest.
Then you have to put those numbers in context. How many times did a player lead the league in some stat? How many times was he in the top-10? What was the league environment in which he played? What kind of offense did he play on? (PK mentions that Monk was used in 3-WR sets, implying that he played in a high-passing offense, conviniently ignoring the fact that he was often used as a hybrid-TE in a run-heavy offense during a era with less passing than the other candidates.) What was the player's role in the offense? Did playing with other stars inflate his numbers, or did he carry his teammates?
I'm not here to answer all of these questions. I'm just here to say that they need to be asked. (Personally, I think Monk is deserving, as are Carter and Brown, but not Reed. I don't feel knowledgeable enough about Hayes to comment.)
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"I can see it now (or, rather, I can't see it, because I'll be dead): In my obit, the second paragraph will read, 'King, who worked for Sports Illustrated for more than two decades, goes to his grave widely known for writing about bad lattes, field hockey and poor hotel fitness centers.'"
And for his incessant name dropping and writing about Brett Favre.
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Yeah, I thought "and Brett Favre" would have made it perfect. I both liked that and referring to Plushenko as "Dillweed of the Week". I laughed.
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I did agree with his observation about Alexander Haig (which led to his comment about his own future obituary). "I am in control" is the first thing I thought of when I heard that Haig passed away.
And I also agree with his comments about the coverage of Tiger Woods' apology.
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And his colonoscopy story, which will haunt me forever.
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