Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

15 Feb 2010

MMQB: Welcome to the NFL 'Offseason'

This week, PK says that he expects a lockout in 2011, details the challenges ahead for the Saints, takes shots at those who would denigrate Peyton Manning's legacy, tells us what we already know about Brett Favre, and tells us which unrestricted free agents will get the most play in a limited market.

Posted by: Doug Farrar on 15 Feb 2010

17 comments, Last at 16 Feb 2010, 6:29pm by towishimp

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by panthersnbraves :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 10:41am

Any chance that the Panthers let Peppers go, he doesn't get a JUMBO package from anyone, and then he comes back to the Panthers?

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by justanothersteve :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 4:23pm

Most years, yes. This (no cap) year, no. Not when Dan Snyder win another offseason and not worry about a salary cap.

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by bomi3ster2 (not verified) :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 11:45am

"2. I think I'm still waiting for the league to fine Bryant McKinnie for going on strike during Pro Bowl week and simply not showing up to practice. Where is the spine of the league? Fine the man. Heavily."

Fark you Peter King. You don't get to go about, demanding sentences for bad behavior. Dude got booted from the Pro Bowl, problem solved.

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by bubqr :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:00pm

The picture of what used to be a knee is quite disturbing. I couldn't get my eyes off it for 20 seconds or so.

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by Sophandros :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:55pm

OMG!!!! The Saints are celebrating winning the Super Bowl for an entire week DURING MARDI GRAS SEASON.

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by Joseph :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:59pm

Liked how PK qualified the number of free agents that the Saints have: many of them aren't important, just "bottom-of-the-roster" filler. Some were signed in the last few weeks of the year to fill out spots for players that went to IR. Sharper is, by far, the most important--then J. Brown, then Fujita. I think they "high-tender" the most important RFA's to avoid losing them for basically nothing.

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by MCS :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 2:07pm

I don't read PK anymore. I just read the take from the guys at KSK instead.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/02/peter-king-would-like-a-trip...

I found it interesting that one area of contention between the players and owners appears to be funding new stadiums. Is there any study that shows how much of the modern stadium cost is bore out by the owners (on average)? It just seems that the fanbase and local tax payers bear the brunt of the stadium cost. If so, the owners have a lot of nerve asking the players to pick up a portion.

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by Tracy :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 4:56pm

Putting aside the question of whether tax dollars should be spent funding football stadiums, it's quite reasonable that the owners would want debt maintenance associated with capital expenditures factored into the calculations of the salary cap and floor.

Say, for example, that an owner wants to finance the construction of a new stadium, and that debt maintenance on the new stadium will cost him 50 million dollars anually, while he expects to increase his revenues by 100 million dollars annually when it's done. This looks like a good deal, as it should produce an annual net cash flow increase of $50 million dollars a year to split between the owner and the players. Except that the salary floor is calculated as 55% of total revenues, without regard to expenses incurred to obtain the revenues, so that the extra $100 million in revenues produces a total of $105 million dollars of added expenses, between intrest expense and added salary expense. Suddenly the deal is bad for the owner, and he has to ask the public to finance his stadium in order for it to make sense. If the public says "no," the stadium won't get built, and both the owner and the players fail to collect from a new revenue stream.

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by jebmak :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 2:16pm

"How come no one ever mentions Jim Brown was 1-3 in the playoffs and averaged 3.7 YPC (yards per carry) when they talk about his legacy?"

Thank you Aaron.

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by Tom Gower :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 3:00pm

Actually, that was Bill.

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by jebmak :: Tue, 02/16/2010 - 11:01am

Thank you Bill!

Whew, that was a lot more thanking than I am used to doing.

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by Botswana Meat Commission FC (not verified) :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 3:14pm

Anyone else notice this little tidbit:

"First, some scheduling notes: A lot of you have Tweeted or e-mailed about the MMQB offseason schedule. Well, I'll be doing the column from various sites through late June (including South Africa at the World Cup)"

Peter King is now covering the other football. NOOOOO!

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by Marko :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 3:25pm

Yeah, I noticed that. I can't wait to read about his travel experiences, read his gee-whiz/naive observations, etc. Not.

Also, did anyone find this amusing:

First, he says "Enough is enough. If I hear one more word about how Peyton Manning ruined his 'legacy' by throwing that interception in the Super Bowl, I'm going to puke."

Then on the next page, he leads with this: "Want to know the fate of Favre? Wait a while." That is enough to make his readers puke.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 11:00pm

That part is just reporting. Now when he goes on and on about how Favre is just a kid having fun out there...

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by Who Dat (not verified) :: Mon, 02/15/2010 - 3:17pm

Dear Peter King, don't ever give advice to anyone from New Orleans on partying ever again. We're professionals.

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by it is what it is (not verified) :: Tue, 02/16/2010 - 11:25am

Jim Brown may have gone 1 - 3 in the play-offs, but he wasn't the QB.. so I'll give him a break. Peyton Manning is 50/50 in the post season, and he threw an ugly interseption that killed his team. Yeah -- I'll remember him for that... so if his legacy is losing as many play-off games as he won, and if he's remembered for throwing the ugly pick at the end of the superbowl, and losing to the Jets 44-0 in a play-off game.. well, I guess that's his legacy. I can accept that.

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by towishimp (not verified) :: Tue, 02/16/2010 - 6:29pm

I find myself actually agreeing with Peter King, for once! I'm trained as an historian, and we no better than to do silly things like talk about a historical figure/event's "legacy" as early as the day after it happened. The appropriate time period is a matter of debate, but waiting a decade to write a serious history of something is not at all unreasonable. To write about Manning's "legacy" now is just weird to me. There's too much tendency to overreact to the most recent events, as people seem to be doing about Manning now.

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