Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

16 Jul 2010

NFL Suspends Johnny Jolly Indefinitely

Wow. The league has suspended Packers end Johnny Jolly indefinitely after his arrest on charges of possessing codeine.

Greg Bedard tweets that that the suspension is for "at least the 2010 season."

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 16 Jul 2010

22 comments, Last at 27 Jul 2010, 3:38pm by JPS

Comments

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by spenczar :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 4:19pm

According to the article, it's way beyond "possessing codeine." It's "buying, selling, funding, transporting and aiding in the buying, selling, funding and transportation of illegal narcotics including cocaine and marijuana."

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by The Ninjalectual :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 1:07am

Nit: cocaine and marijuana are NOT narcotics. Only drugs derived from the poppy plant are narcotics, aka opiates.

"Just look at that pumpkin."
-John Madden, looking at the moon.

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by Cenalan (not verified) :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 3:19pm

From dictionary.com:

nar·cot·ic
   /nɑrˈkɒtɪk/ Show Spelled[nahr-kot-ik] Show IPA
–noun
1.
any of a class of substances that blunt the senses, as opium, morphine, belladonna, and alcohol, that in large quantities produce euphoria, stupor, or coma, that when used constantly can cause habituation or addiction, and that are used in medicine to relieve pain, cause sedation, and induce sleep.
2.
anything that exercises a soothing or numbing effect or influence: Television is a narcotic for many people.

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by GbPack (not verified) :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 4:22pm

At the risk of sounding biased, what evidence does Mr. Goodell have regarding trafficking that the state of Texas does not? Being in a vehicle with a codeine drink that belonged to someone is all that can really be shown at this point. Should that warrant a minimum 16 game suspension?

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by Basilicus (not verified) :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 6:07pm

Is there an employer in America that wouldn't ask you to stay home from the job for a while on the mere suspicion of possession, trafficking, and dealing cocaine and marijuana, let alone with an arrest to go with it?

Why should the NFL not be able to exercise the same in-house policy toward employee behavior that your local WalMart would?

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by Mr.Charisma (not verified) :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 5:46pm

That argument is made all the time, and I think it's a little off. Not only would Walmart not care about these "suspicions", but they wouldn't even know about them. The reason that the NFL takes such immediate and harsh action is b/c they are subject to quite a bit of publicity. Companies that are not on display do not care about these vague "suspicions".... and neither would the NFL.

With that said, the NFL has to protect itself, and it's completely within their rights to do so.

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by ChicagoRaider :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 6:15pm

He is charged with 200+ grams. Not milligrams. Grams. That is street value in the tens of thousands of dollars. So I am seriously doubting that they found him just drinking it out of a cup. 800mg is estimated to kill the average person half the time -- and he is charged with over 200 times that.

Yes, since he was not the only person the prosecutor has to prove that he had knowledge of the drug and control over it. But how are you going to prove he had no knowledge of the codeine when it is easy to prove the open container and the strong smell?

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by sszycher :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 4:30pm

So where is JaMarcus Russell supposed to get his purple drank now?

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by >implying implications (not verified) :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 4:49pm

Apparently he's signed with the Omaha UFL expansion team. So he'll need to find a Nebraska distributor.

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by sippin on some sizzurp (not verified) :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 5:21pm

now it says this is purely for substance abuse? has he been suspended before? i definitely understand the indefinite part, leaving open a longer suspension after his trial. if only codeine was the name of some smashed sorority girl instead.

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by drobviousso :: Fri, 07/16/2010 - 11:15pm

Wow. This is quite a blow on the field. In the half a dozen or so games I saw, he looked anywhere between competent and dominant. I know GB has some depth there, but he seemed to be working out as an end.

(no comment about off the field stuff. Have no idea about the background)

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by Flounder :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 8:19am

It's not as bad as you might think. Outside of his talent for knocking down passes at the line, he was really not anything noteworthy. Will stop a run for a loss occasionally, but for every nice play like that there was usually a corresponding one where he got rolled.

We'll see how Pickett adjusts to end. He certainly has potential to be a better end against the run than Jolly, and won't be on the field for obvious passing downs. I imagine at least on of the rookies, Neal of Wilson, will see a decent amount of time on the field. And hey, hell might freeze over and Justin Harell (still on the roster!) might not get hurt.

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by Raiderjoe :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 9:57am

wonder how jolly he goigng to be in jail

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by Bobman :: Sun, 07/18/2010 - 1:10am

I wish I could be at a meeting where he's introduced to the commissioner.

Maybe his GM makes the intro: "This is Jolly, Roger."

"Avast thar, yer gonna walk the plank for sixteen games, if not more."

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by JPS (not verified) :: Tue, 07/27/2010 - 3:38pm

It's not just the articles, it's this kind of silly genius in the subsequent debate that keeps me coming back.

CAPTCHA: disuses large

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by Independent George :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 11:53am

Dang, I forgot to include him on the 'best names' thread.

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by andrew :: Sat, 07/17/2010 - 1:29pm

Its a sign that the bucs have something to do with this.

Hey, at least its better than associating it with the purple kool-aid in minnesota...

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by Theo :: Mon, 07/19/2010 - 7:34am

It's beyond me why someone wants to be in drug trafficking when you've got an NFL career going.
It's not like you need the money, so the risk/reward really not in your favor.

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by JJohnson (not verified) :: Mon, 07/19/2010 - 9:33am

You ask the same question about Vick, except you can replace drug trafficking with dog fighting. Or you could as Tank Johnson the same question, except you can replace drug trafficking with arms dealing.

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by DavidL :: Mon, 07/19/2010 - 10:34am

Hey, we hear all the time that players need to have other careers lined up for when they retire, especially the ones who don't draw superstar money (i.e. Vick is still a complete moron).

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by jimbohead :: Mon, 07/19/2010 - 2:44pm

See, I actually get dog fighting, in that some people consider it entertainment, and there's some level of community around it. So, being a top dogfighting breeder and organizer has its own value. But I still don't get drug trafficking.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 07/19/2010 - 5:00pm

I don't think Tank Johnson was selling guns, he was just owning them. He really liked his guns.