Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

31 Oct 2010

Randy Moss: Verbatim

Thanks to Kevin Seifert of ESPN for transcribing Randy Moss' postgame comments. These are, as the Brits might say, gobsmacking. Moss basically says tons of great things about the Pats and disses the Vikings for not listening to what he told them about the Pats before the game, then calls out Brad Childress for going for a touchdown at the end of the first half. Oh, and says he'll be "interviewing himself" for the rest of the year. Wild, just wild.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 31 Oct 2010

36 comments, Last at 02 Nov 2010, 11:27am by wr

Comments

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by Michael LaRocca (not verified) :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 9:30pm

Interviewing myself... I'm going to have to try that.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:40pm

Careful, interview yourself too much and you might go blind.

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:11pm

"The first thing I want to ask myself today is who on earth decided that interviewing myself would be a good idea. To answer that question, that would be me.

I forgot what the following three questions were, but I do remember that the answer was "no comment.""

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by bill (not verified) :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:13pm

This sounds like the perfect time to ask the taxpayers to build the team a new stadium.

On another note, looks a good chance they'll be able to trade some draft picks for McNabb...

Bill

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by B :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:15pm

Wow. Just Wow. This is going to make an interesting week.

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by AnonymousA (not verified) :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:31pm

Damned if I have any clue what the events leading to Randy Moss: Minnesota Viking were at this point. Is he off his meds?

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by Whatev :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:42pm

Past experience suggests that the Bengals would be the right team for him about now.

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by Palo20 :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:13am

Moss, TO, and Ochocinco.

Oh my

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by RickD :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:34am

Don't forget Shipley, who's the real future of the Bengal receiving corps.

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by andrew :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 10:51pm

I think this says more about the Vikings than it does about Moss.

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by Andrew Potter :: Sun, 10/31/2010 - 11:48pm

That... is incredible. Wow. I'm stunned to read that.

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by RickD :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:34am

Randy Moss is a very interesting person. I think it's far too easy to dismiss him as a troublemaker. But it's clear that he's got some lingering emotional issues. He loves the Patriots now, but seven weeks ago he felt the need to publicly complain about his contract situation. I think he really felt slighted that the Krafts and Belichick hadn't made an effort to sign him to a long-term contract before the season started. And he overreacted, because part of him is very insecure.

OTOH, part of him is brilliant. But I think he'd be well-advised to hire a full-time PR person, independent of his agent.

You know, it's bad form for Moss and Favre to publicly criticize Childress, and it's also true that not every decision Belichick makes works out perfectly, but in the big picture, Belichick is a much better game manager than Childress is, and I understand why they both get frustrated with Childress's game management. I could not understand why Childress went for it on 4th and goal in a tie game early in the game, especially right after they'd gotten stuffed on 3rd down. "It's OK to punt," meet "It's OK to kick a field goal." Nothing builds up a team's confidence instantly better than a successful goal line stand. The Vikings pretty much dominated the first half and I thought the need to go for a TD there signaled a lack of confidence by Childress, as opposed to the opposite. They really needed to have a halftime lead.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 5:33am

I said the same thing, in fewer words. Moss is very intelligent, but he's terrible at communicating.

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by RichC (not verified) :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 8:22am

If Minny scores a TD at the end of the first half there, the game is pretty much over. They come out in the 2nd half, with the ball, with the wind, and a lead.

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by Jeremy Billones :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 9:13am

But it they fail to get the TD, there's not enough time on the clock for them to get the ball back and benefit from their good field position. It's all or nothing. That changes the odds quite a bit.

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by Semigruntled Eagles fan (not verified) :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 11:12am

Actually, as the Vikings still had a timeout, if they hadn't lost 2 yards on the 4th down play the Patriots would have had to run 3 plays from their own 1 in order to run out the clock, yielding a decent chance at a safety. Even with the Patriots starting from the 3, I thought the Vikings should have been pressing at the line as the Patriots downed the ball, to try and force them far enough back that they wouldn't be able to down it on third down.

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by justanothersteve :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 8:25am

But I think he'd be well-advised to hire a full-time PR person, independent of his agent.

I imagine that after interviewing several candidates, Randy would likely hire himself to be his PR person.

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:03pm

AP had been killing it running the ball and the Vikes had been very successful on short yardage this year. I thought it was the right call.

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by JFP (not verified) :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 1:39am

I have no complaints about Randy's time in NE, and hope he does well except for when he plays the Pats. I must say though that I'm kind of glad he's in Minny. Like RickD says above he seems to have some issues. It seems like he needs to ruin it for himself wherever he goes.

I thought the Old Gunslinger's comments after the game were interesting as well. I'm actually interested to see if Peter King mentions Favre's post game comments in MMQB. I'm pretty sure he's going to cover Randy's.

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by Pat Swinnegan :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 3:40am

Part of me wonders if the Patriots don't sign Randy Moss back after the season is over. A few more games with a single catch followed by a press conference like this, and he's going to be available for a song.

Then again, when Branch left town, I figured, "No problem, they'll just wait until he flames out in Seattle, then bring him back" and that... never... Hmm.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 5:35am

I expect Moss is planning on retiring after the season.

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by Pat Swinnegan :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 3:41pm

Maybe, and I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up happening. But at least that wasn't his plan after he made noise earlier in the season about getting a new contract.

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by Will Allen :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 9:29am

Not every true thing needs to be said, but of course it is true that Childress' decision was terrible. Much of the value of forgoing a near-certain field goal attempt at the goal line lies in the fact if you fail to get the td, but have a good defensive series, your offense gets the ball back in excellent field position. That value disappears at the end of the half, and the fact that the Vikings were going to receive the 2nd half kickoff is irrelevant; there was no potential of an extra short field possession to be gained, if the 4th down attempt failed, so the only reasonable decision is to take the near certain chance of taking the lead into halftime, and then build on the lead with the first possession of the 2nd half.

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by jimm (not verified) :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 10:06am

I think that the math would support Childress going for it.

I think one has to remember there was still 1.04 on the clock. If the Vikings kick the FG the Patriots would have had a decent chance to match that FG even with no timeouts. In short, there was no guarantee that a FG would have meant a half time lead for the Vikings.

I think Childress made the correct decision but the team - like against Miami - just didn't execute.

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by Will Allen :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 12:08pm

Yes, but it would have nearly guaranteed 10 points for the Vikings at halftime, with the opportunity for more with the first possession of the 2nd half. That has a lot of value.

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by jmaron :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 1:43pm

Peterson took the blame on the play. I looked at the replay and he's right - there was an excellent crease to his right. He's been a much better runner this year because he has shown a lot more patience, but in two games (Mia and NE) his impatience has really cost them at the goal line.

That doesn't excuse Loadholt getting pushed back. If he makes a decent block they likely score anyway.

This year I just get a sense that something will go wrong to bring about the loss even when things look good for a win. I took a look at Advanced Football Stats winning probability graphs and the Vikings have had a 55-70% chance of winning every game they lost at some point in the second half. The only one they didn't was the Jets and in that game Favre missed Harvin on a simple little dump pass that may well have led to a game winning FG.

It's been very frustrating to watch. But there is obvious talent there. The Patriots were extremely lucky to come out of that half 7-7. There only offence was the result of a missed tackle and missed interception. That game could have been 21-0 instead of 10-7 after the first Viking possession of the 3rd quarter. If not for botched officials calls they would have been up 21-10 against GB at the half.

I still think the Vikings have a chance because they are as capable as any other team. But the margin for error is one loss or maybe two in last 9. With road games in Wash, Philly, Det, and Chic and home games to GB, NYG, and Chic - I doesn't seem very likely.

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by Will Allen :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:31pm

Yes, when you fail to gain a yard on the goal line, it means some combination of players didn't execute. That happens sometimes when you are trying to score touchdowns, which is why the smart play is to kick the field goal at the end of the first half.

3-4 would have made things much, much, easier than 2-5, and the shame of it is that they could have won any of the games they lost, without changing more than a play or two. I think they are done, and given their age, and their contract situations, they may be done for a while, unless Webb is the next Tom Brady. I don't think Wilf can sell Childress to the public any longer, if they don't make the playoffs.

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by JonFrum (not verified) :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 2:23pm

It's an over-used cliche, but Moss really is like the high-maintenance hot chick. As long as she keeps her mouth shut, you want her. Every time she speaks, you ask yourself why?

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by chemical burn :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 2:37pm

Also, Moss is like that hot chick in that she does not care about JonFrum, his opinion and whether he likes her or not.

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by chemical burn :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 2:39pm

No, wait, wait, Moss is like a very athletic man: a coddled, over-grown baby whose glaring problems are over-looked and enabled because of their prowess.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:26pm

Which is the like the hot chick who is coddled, over-grown baby whose glaring problems are over-looked and enabled because of her attractiveness.

It's a pretty apt analogy, they're both in a good position because of a physical attribute, but aren't mentally what you want out of a person.

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by chemical burn :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 6:23pm

meh - but in both cases the real problem is with the listener and the team/fans, not the woman and the athlete.

Reductive, apocryphal stereotypes that smack of ego protection deserve derision - I expect more from the discourse here FO than I do from in a Buckcherry song.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 6:51pm

If you really don't like it, ignoring is probably the best policy. By responding to it twice, you drew much more attention to the post than it otherwise would have got.

I will agree with you that it is a vacuous post, I'm not even sure why I responded, other than boredom.

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by slipknottin :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 2:53pm

Vikings just waived randy moss

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by DenverCheeze (not verified) :: Mon, 11/01/2010 - 4:13pm

It would be great if the Pats put in a claim.

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by wr (not verified) :: Tue, 11/02/2010 - 11:27am

Why should they? They are at the end of the queue for waiver claims, so
they might as well not claim him and let him clear waivers. Then, they
could sign him for whatever they felt like paying, and not assume his
current contract.