Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

16 Mar 2010

Seahawks Trade Tapp For Clemons

The Seahawks have dealt end Darryl Tapp to the Eagles, with Chris Clemons and a fourth-round pick going the other way. The Eagles have also signed Tapp to a contract extension

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 16 Mar 2010

19 comments, Last at 27 Mar 2010, 4:06am by sports-veronica

Comments

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by alexbond :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 9:32pm

The tears won't stop...

In all seriousness, Tapp has gotten better every year, and has the potential to be one of the top 10 pass rushers in the league. He'll fit in great in Philly, he's very good at dropping back into coverage, he'll do great in the Jim Johnson fire zone blitzes.

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by Dave51 (not verified) :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 9:35pm

Is your post sarcasm? I don't watch the Seahawks so I really don't know for sure, but his stats (and the fact that he's no longer even a starter) would seem to indicated the exact opposite of what you just said.

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by alexbond :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 9:43pm

He didn't start because he was bad against the run, so they often didn't have him in on the first play, and his stats were bad because the Hawks got their butts whooped and didn't often put the other team in the kind of situations where the other team had to pass and the DEs can pin their ears back and sell out for the pass rush. The tape on him shows his skill - a good edge rush, a great inside cutback move, and the aforementioned zone coverage skills.

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 9:58am

Seattle also had about 5 starting caliber linebackers, which gave them the best LB core in the NFL.

Philly is weird. Trading for Witherspoon, dropping him for nothing then trading for Tapp... I know I know, somebody will a 3 letter name will come in here and say Stewart Bradley is coming back and he's better ( but he's coming off a serious injury), I know that someone will say Gaither is better ( I disagree). Gaither has 5 career sacks in 53 games on what is known to be an aggressive defense.

Besides Bradley who is coming off an injury, I'm not impressed with Philly's linebackers. I would still give them credit for Witherspoon if they kept him even if he regressed but that LB core doesn't spit fear into any NFL opponents. 1/2 the time you have an ancient Trotter out there anyway. Gaither, Fokou and Jordan and the don't impress me at this point.

- Dallas has the best LB's in the division
- Last year even Washingtons were better than Philly's ( Orakpoo & Fletch)
- Right now the Giants are at the bottom but I have a feeling they will either try and sign a decent veteran linebacker like Keith Bullock or use their 1st round pick on a LB.

BTW: Is Will Witherspoon going to be a Titan? I once met one of his relatives ( I think she was his cousin) and she was pretty cool.

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by The Ghost Of Concrete Charlie (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 11:20am

You lose any and all credibility by even mentioning Trotter in your post. He's not under contract to the team, and even if he was, he would have been released by now. He'd have been the 9th LB on the depth chart (8th after Spoon got released) on a team that typically keeps 7.

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 11:25am

That's fine, you have no credibility to begin with :)

So did Trotter play last year for the Beagles or did he not?

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by The Ghost Of Concrete Charlie (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 11:51am

I wouldn't use the term "play" to describe what he did.

Regardless, it's irrelevent. He's no more on the roster than Chris Clemons.

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 1:39pm

Right, which is why Dallas, & even the Deadskins had better LB's than Philly last year. Having better LB's than the Giants LY doesn't say much. I think the Eagles faithful are way to confident about a LB core that leaves a lot to be desired.

The only LB I really like is coming off a serious injury, and the rest of the guys are still trying to prove they are starting caliber NFL linebackers.

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by Anonymouse (not verified) :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 1:13am

So then why even bother mentioning Trotter?

For that matter, why are you even talking about their linebackers at all when the trade involves two defensive ends?

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by Dean :: Thu, 03/18/2010 - 9:57am

I think the posters point is that it doesn't so much matter whether you are right or wrong. Rather that your example did such a weak job supporting your point that it actually undermined it instead.

Lets say I wanted to criticize the Redskins offensive line, and I said they were all overrated, Heyer didn't impress me, and Jansen was terrible.

Why even mention Jansen at all? At best, it would make me look less-then-knowledgable.

And if I were to make the comment in an article about the Redskins secondary, well, it would be even more pointless.

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by Venger :: Tue, 03/16/2010 - 9:44pm

An off-the-street FA and another team's fourth-round pick for a potentially good DE?

Even if it fails, you can honestly say that nothing of value was lost.

The Iggles will probably still try to draft a pass rusher, but you can never have too many DE's.

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by dedkrikit (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 12:04am

What if they get 17 of them? Too much then?

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by Theo :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 6:22am

They still can cut 13.

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by Brendan Scolari :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 1:25am

Wow, very nice trade for the Eagles. Apparently the 'Hawks like this whole rebuilding thing.

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by wr (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 10:01am

When I first saw the headline I thought that Seattle had
traded beer for a football player...

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by coltrane23 :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 10:39am

Memo to John Schneider and Pete Carroll:

You guys do realize that you need to field a couple of DEs, right? And that they ought to be good? Kerney doesn't count, since I suspect he's on his way out the door. (Actually tongue in cheek, I wouldn't consider Tapp a great loss, but DE was already a hole on the roster when the new FO took over and it just got larger.)

I don't see a lot of Eagles games: does Clemons have any strengths, or is he just a "high motor" guy?

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by Karl Cuba :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 10:52am

This is a meh trade from the Eagles perspective and a meh trade from the Seahawks perspective. It's a meh trade, two players that no-one wanted and crap draft picks, meh.

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by C (not verified) :: Wed, 03/17/2010 - 1:41pm

It's possible that Tapp being in a crowded LB core in Seattle asked the new coach/management if he could be traded because he didn't want to be a backup in Seattle where as maybe he thought he'd have a better chance to compete for a job in Philly.