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17 Oct 2011

Raiders 'Pushing Hard' for Palmer Trade

According to Jason Cole of Yahoo, the Raiders moved right into trying to trade for retired Cincinnati quarterback Carson Palmer after learning that incumbent starter Jason Campbell has been lost for the season.

Of course, it's unlikely anything will happen given Mike Brown's stance on the Palmer situation. But hey: trade deadline speculation thread!

Posted by: Rivers McCown on 17 Oct 2011

19 comments, Last at 18 Oct 2011, 10:51am by Splattered

Comments

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by The Ninjalectual :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 3:08am

Brandon Lloyd and Eddie Royal are on the block in Denver. Do the Rams trade a 2nd for Lloyd (to reunite with Josh McDaniels, who coached him to his personal Renaissance), or is McDaniels going to jump ship next year to reunite with Kyle Orton somewhere? Does Washington trade a 4th for Royal to reunite him with Shanahan?

If any of that happens, read about it here on time, and a couple days later on my crappy NFL blog! You should probably just read it here though.

I agree that Oakland probably won't land Carson Palmer. That's just not the kind of thing that happens in this reality.

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by Misty (not verified) :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 4:16am

Sorry, but the Rams 2nd rounder next year looks like it will be higher than 36 ... that's almost as worthy as a first, and giving that much for a receiver (his contract will expire) on a team which already is going nowhere, would be dumb ... desperate.

The Rams have zero chance of going anywhere this season.

McDaniels jumping ship? Looks more like the Rams will have a housecleaning after the season. GM and HC are from the old owner afaik.

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by mrbusche :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 8:03am

the BRoncos already said Lloyd can be had for a 4th rounder.

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by Mash Wilson (not verified) :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 9:24am

Which means he can be had for a conditional 5th. It seems like the Broncos would really like to be rid of him.

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by dbt :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 6:13am

Lloyd is a chronic malcontent who has a history of making spectacular catches and dropping routine ones. I wouldn't trade much of anything for him, even if he did play well last year with Orton in the McDaniels offense.

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by MilkmanDanimal :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 9:47am

If Al was still alive, he'd be a perfect Raider; incredibly talented, inconsistent, and an absolutely lousy teammate. Will the new regime be saner?

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by Monkey Business (not verified) :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 10:13am

Has anyone seen Raiderjoe lately? I'm beginning to get concerned.

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by Matt Bowyer :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 12:23pm

Yeah, he's around and fine.

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by commissionerleaf :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 12:41pm

Palmer-to-the-Raiders would instantly make Oakland the class of the AFCWest, assuming Palmer is in game shape. Palmer, postinjuries, is still a competent game manager and picker-up of 3rd downs. His intermediate arm strength and accuracy aren't what they were after the arm injury, but he's still an upgrade on Jason Campbell. He's probably just about Jay Cutler competent, currently, which would be pretty effective with the Raiders' offense (which is just a more talented version of Chicago's offense, in that the line is a weakness and the only reliable and repeatable element is a talented pass-catching running back).

Palmer is worth at least a 2nd. You can't tell me the Bengals can't use a second, since they seem to be set with Dalton...

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by RichC (not verified) :: Tue, 10/18/2011 - 10:07am

Palmer is nowhere near as good as Cutler at this point.

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by Raiderjoe :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 1:11pm

Palmer crap qb. Needds to stah retirwd and run merry go rounf Santa Monica Pier iff get bored. Garrard brtter olayer. Raiders please get him. Will now change Super Bowl 46 mvp pivk from j. Campbrll to D. McFadden. Might change it to d. Garrard jf signn ejth Raiders.

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by ChicagoRaider :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 3:41pm

Even of the Raiders signed Garrard right away, when could he be ready? After the bye? Early November? Not that I ever loved Kyle Boller. But who did? Indy has Kerry Collins, who at least was once a Raider.

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by Raiderjoe :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 5:24pm

Collins = turd. Pleasd kerp away from Oakland. Boller could be next J. Plunkett. First rd flop then go to Raiders manny years layer and leas team to Super Boel win

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by Trust Doesn't Rust (not verified) :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 1:34pm

I think David Garrard would be a much better fit. He and Campbell have similar styles-- both are smart players who protect the ball, don't take many sacks, can throw a good deep ball, and have good running skills without being "running quarterbacks." It doesn't seem like Garrard really wants to play right now, but if he does and he's in shape then I think he'd be the easiest substitution for the raiders.

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by TomKelso :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 3:53pm

Garrard has been pretty open about the kind of situation he wants to go to with a relatively short career left to him. Oakland is really the first situation this year where a competitive team has lost its starter. The Raiders seem to be a good fit for him, so I would think he'd jump at it if offered.

That's not a slam at Indy, by the way -- I think Garrard realized how little he could improve the situation there. It's amazing how that team has cratered.

ETA: ESPN is now reporting that the Raiders had contacted Garrard, but he has a herniated disk, and will be having surgery. So much for that scenario.

I think even Raiderjoe would have to admit that Palmer is a better option than Boller, and definitely better than Pryor.

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by Raiderjoe :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 5:20pm

Yeas heatd that. Garrard has h disk. Team will rally around K. Boller and win. Drerfinitely can take Raiders yo Siper Bowl but with better QB fans woulf be mpre comfotable

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by divisionnick (not verified) :: Mon, 10/17/2011 - 11:50pm

How bout Brady Quinn in Oakland? What would they have to offer and what would he bring to the table as the typical "I have a lot to prove" as a former high draft pick?

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by Revenge of the NURBS (not verified) :: Tue, 10/18/2011 - 10:46am

PFT is saying the offer is a 1st, and then a conditional 1st in 2013 for Palmer. Is it just me, or does that seem like an insane price for a 32 year old who hasn't even been a top 10 QB for the last 3 or 4 years? That, and there's no way he's ready to step in and play immediately.

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by Splattered :: Tue, 10/18/2011 - 10:51am

Well, Jackson and Palmer worked together both in Cincinnati and at USC, so there's familiarity. Still will be interesting to see how quickly he steps in.

As a Bengals fan, I'm somewhat amazed he got that much, but I'm curious what the conditions on the 2013 pick are.