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19 Mar 2012

MMQB: All About Manning

Peter takes a look at the potential ripple effects to come from Peyton Manning's decision, goes in-depth on Mario Williams and Matt Flynn, and explains what has gone wrong in Miami.

Posted by: Rivers McCown on 19 Mar 2012

11 comments, Last at 19 Mar 2012, 4:55pm by Intropy

Comments

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by Mr Shush :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:32am

"Tim Tebow. If Manning picks Denver, I'd be the only person alive who'd think Denver shouldn't trade Tebow; I'd love to see him be the jack-of-all-trades runner-receiver-very occasional thrower who'd keep defenses honest. But this would be the chance for Elway to get something for Tebow. Question is, would it be foolish to dump him for, say, a fifth-round pick? I think it would be. I'd keep him unless I could get a third- or higher."

Surely King has to understand that the Broncos management would do almost anything to be rid of the Tebow headache. As long as he's at the club, a large and vocal section of the fanbase will be demanding that he start. It's too much of a distraction. If he's not the starter, he has to go, even if they can't get anything in compensation.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:05am

I do believe if keeping him would work with anybody, it would be with Peyton. Some local polls in Denver I saw had close to 70% of respondents favoring Peyton.

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by Mr Shush :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:59pm

But then surely you're just deferring the problem - or at least running the risk of it re-surfacing if Manning retires. Best to get rid of him while you have the chance - and while you can get something in return.

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by rageon :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:29am

Exactly why I believe Denver will end up with Manning -- I think that Elway will pay Manning whatever it takes as a way of buying his way out of Tebow. There aren't many ways to get rid of Tebow without a mutiny, but bringing in Peyton Manning is probably one of them.

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by Intropy :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 4:55pm

Tilde Tebow!

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by Mr Shush :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 10:35am

"I'd call the Brandon Marshall trade (for two second-rounders in 2010) a debacle"

How? He's gone over 1000 yards both seasons, with questionable quarterbacking, been to a pro bowl, and been one of the few receivers to have notable success against Darelle Revis. Even after a possibly serious off-field incident, they were still able to trade him for significant value.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:02am

We were typing at the same time! Clearly, I'm with you on that one.

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by Hurt Bones :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:12pm

Agree. I would call 2-2nds for 2-3rds and 2 1000yd seasons at least a wash and probably a bit of a positive.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 11:00am

I'm confused as to why PK wanted to label the Brandon Marshall trade a "debacle." He had 1,000 yards his first year in Miami and was over 1,200 this year. It's fair to argue that two 2nd rounders for a wide receiver is overpaying in general, but it doesn't seem like PK was saying that. What kind of numbers did he expect from Marshall?

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by Jimmy :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 12:08pm

"Icing my shoulder from continuous fist pumping."

A startling (and Borgnein-esque) admission by Kirk Morrison about his offseason work out regimen.

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by akn :: Mon, 03/19/2012 - 4:53pm

One hopes he doesn't hurt himself when toweling vigorously...