Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

12 Jan 2013

All-Pro Teams Announced

Adrian Peterson and J.J. Watt were the lone unanimous selections. Hard to find too much to be mad about here. I might have chosen a different center than Max Unger for the first team, and I really wish Daryl Washington had made the first team. On the other hand, now Justin Smith can call himself a second-team All-Pro at defensive end and defensive tackle, so that's fun.

Posted by: Rivers McCown on 12 Jan 2013

21 comments, Last at 17 Jan 2013, 8:41pm by Mr Shush

Comments

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by hansen9j :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 2:22pm

Justin Smith was first and second team All-Pro last year, so this is a step down for him.

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by BlueStarDude :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 4:21pm

There is no second team all pro. They only vote for first team. To then cobble together a second team the way they do is nonsense. Don't recognize it.

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by andrew :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 4:34am

yeah if you know someone is unanimous you can put your guy on second team by being lone dissenter. 1 vote makes you second team, someone else could get a dozen and not make it.

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by Raiderjoe :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 4:53pm

Yeah fbat is fair wua to examine it BlueStarDude.

Crappy now assoc. Press will pick two left tskcles for tackle spots. Oakland rapper Yukmouth once say "if you're gonna do it, do it right". Assoxiapted Press should pick a left tackle and a roght tackle for the two tackle spots.

Also should pick 11 offensne and 11 defense guys.

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by MC2 :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 5:24pm

I guess they figure it doesn't matter as long as the O-Line's got 5 on it.

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by Travis :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 8:08pm

This is fantastic.

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by Raiderjoe :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 8:35pm

MC2 make best post of 2013 so far on footnall Outsidrs.

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by Gauss (not verified) :: Mon, 01/14/2013 - 9:28am

Amazing. A+.

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by Mr Shush :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 2:35pm

Gotta disagree with you here, RJ. If the RTs were that good, they'd be playing LT. It's almost like saying they should pick one #1 receiver and one #2 receiver.

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by Raiderjoe :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 5:58pm

Only If recsovers played exclusively on one side of fiekd

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by Raiderjoe :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 5:59pm

It is like you cant call it a "team" if you got 2 left tackles and 0 right tackles.

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by LionInAZ :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 6:38pm

I don't believe anyone who knows better thinks that RTs are failed LTs. They have different skill sets.

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by Aloysius Mephis... :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 11:26pm

Applying the "a right tackle is just a failed left tackle" logic across the board produces some pretty ridiculous results. You could say that a guard or center is just a failed left tackle, since in fact it is rather common for guys that can't hack it at tackle to be moved to the interior. And you could say that a wide receiver or a running back is just a failed running quarterback. You'd end up with an All-Pro team starting five left tackles, Tony Gonzalez at tight tend, Peyton Manning at quarterback, and with Russell Wilson, RGIII, Cam Newton, and Colin Kaepernick as the backs and wideouts. That would be a hell of an entertaining team to watch but it wouldn't have much to do with how football is played.

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by Mr Shush :: Thu, 01/17/2013 - 8:41pm

No, I wouldn't, for the simple reason I'm pretty sure that team would lose to the one with Peterson at running back, Spiller as a change-up and the Johnsons and Green at WR. Cam Newton would not be a better receiver than Megatron. Duane Brown would be a better right tackle than any right tackle you care to name (at least in a zone blocking scheme, but that's an entirely different can of worms).

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by The Ninjalectual :: Wed, 01/16/2013 - 8:24pm

If the RTs were that good, they'd be playing LT

This makes no sense.

Look at the line in Baltimore: the team seems to think Michael Oher is their best tackle, so, naturally, he began the year as the starting LT. But if the guy on the right gets hurt, or they want to make a change for other reasons (like wanting to play the line that looked so good against Denver), they bring Bryant McKennie in at LT, and move Oher to RT. Not because McKennie is better, but because he can only play left tackle. Oher can play either.

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by Mr Shush :: Thu, 01/17/2013 - 8:37pm

I should expand:

Plenty of LTs could not play RT as well as plenty of RTs. Some RTs could play LT better than some LTs. But the very best LTs would play RT better than any RT. There's no skill an RT requires that isn't substantially useful for an LT. Interior guys are different: there's arguably an active advantage to a stockier frame, and less requirement for arm length. No team can afford two guys who can pass block on an island and demolish people in the run game. If they could, they would, but they can't (most teams don't even have one) so those guys play LT. Oher and McKinnie are irrelevant, because neither of them is good enough to figure in the All Pro discussion. Does anyone seriously think Willie Anderson was a better RT than Ogden would have been if he'd played there?

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by LionInAZ :: Sat, 01/12/2013 - 8:22pm

Gotta wonder who was the lone crank who voted against Calvin Johnson.

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by Karl Cuba :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 12:55am

Tim Ryan, FOX idiot. Is it pushing rule one to suggest that everything Rupert Murdoch touches results in biased, mediocre, low grade journalism that tarnishes the human experience?

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by LionInAZ :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 9:30pm

To call Fox Sports journalism mediocre is to give them too much credit. I don't think they're biased -- they care only about stories they can turn into controversies. Probably half of the Fox sports crew is chasing after Princess Kate now.

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by The Ninjalectual :: Wed, 01/16/2013 - 8:19pm

You're underestimating Fox's Troy Aikman, who can turn even the most exciting game into a snooze-fest!

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by Aloysius Mephis... :: Sun, 01/13/2013 - 11:45pm

They were all garbage yards, doncha know. /sarcasm