Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

31 Aug 2013

Patriots Release Tim Tebow

If only someone had called this a few months ago...

Posted by: Rivers McCown on 31 Aug 2013

35 comments, Last at 04 Sep 2013, 12:55pm by JIPanick

Comments

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by Gorilla Graham (not verified) :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 3:21pm

If McDaniels couldn't convince BB to keep his pet around, I think this may finally be the end of this story. How fast did ESPN and FS1 get on the phone to his agent to acquire his brilliant insight for college football coverage?

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by DEW (not verified) :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 6:36pm

Truthfully, the "cut quarterback" release I'm more intrigued by is Vince Young, from a substantive football standpoint. The Packers signed him, ditched last year's backup (Harrell), played him in all four games, and then settled on Coleman instead. I'm genuinely curious about what's going on there, since that's all over the backup job, as opposed to whether the Patriots were going to keep a third-stringer.

(That said, as a Dolphins fan, I can't help but feel an eentsy bit of schadenfreude, since it was Miami's last-two-minute collapse that led to the Legend of Tebow being created in 2011. Without those two minutes, that'd have been two ugly, ugly losses in a row for Denver, with the Detroit game, and the experiment would likely have been over in the "He had a chance, he was awful, now let's get back to real football" sense.)

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by justanothersteve :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 7:35pm

I'm hoping the Packers plan on picking up another QB off waivers. Coleman isn't that good. At least with Young, the Packers had a chance of being competitive if Rodgers was injured. Just because a QB can't master a hundreds-page thick playbook in less than four weeks is no reason to cut him, especially when it is still obvious he's the second-best QB on the roster.

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by Will Allen :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 10:02am

It is if the observed work habits of the player are poor. I'm not saying I know it is the case, but they obviously saw something that they didn't like.

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by w1ldtyp3 (not verified) :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 12:02pm

my theory is the packers brought him in to teach him the offense, and if rodgers ever gets hurt he will be on the team the following day. in the meantime they save a roster spot.

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by whckandrw (not verified) :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 1:42pm

It might be one of those, "We saw some things we like but frankly you're not quite talented enough to get by on the work habits you're displaying."

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by liquidmuse3 (not verified) :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 2:17pm

Yes, you're right..."real football" isn't beating the #1 pass defense in the playoffs in your 15th start...when the team you're playing for was the 2nd worst in the league the year before. That Miami game illustrated a point over & over again...real football IS NOT what John Fox was playing the 1st 3 quarters of any Tebow game...& Tebow's QB rating (& production) was over 100 in the 4th Q., when Fox stopped the Mickey Mouse offense (as he did the Pitt playoff game...he continued it in the NE playoff game, however). The fact that Tebow put up an 82.1 rating in 3 starts in 2010, running a fairly conventional offense to me further disproves this notion that Tebow has to run an antiquated offense to succeed. Definitely not a pocket passer, & he's gonna have to get better @ that, just like Elway said. But I just love that the league (& Tebow's former team) would pick up utter failure Brady Quinn today, because he plays more like "an NFL QB" (never mind posting a rating 10 points under Tebow, whether you agree with the passer rating or not).

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by LionInAZ :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 5:49pm

Yeah, and then Tebow was subsequently shown to be the sham that he is by being trounced 45-10 by the 31st-ranked defense just one week later.

You should really look at that Bronco season with a little more thought. That 'miracle' win against the Dolphins was pretty questionable. Thomas' TD catch was a review play that could have gone either way, and the big play to Fells on the tying TD drive maybe should have been called back for illegal blockers downfield -- the announcers pointed it out in the play by play. One could easily infer that the Dolphins were screwed by the officials in a game that they otherwise had in control.

Then look at how the Broncos finished the season - who they beat and who they lost to - and then come back with a more reasoned commentary on Tebow's performance.

But I don't expect thoughtful commentary from Tebowistas any more than I expect it from Scientologistas.

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by akn :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 6:42pm

This warrants an Extra Point? New England bias!

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by Rivers McCown :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 10:10pm

Aaron told me to post it right after we completed our daily phone call about Tony Eason.

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by nat :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 10:14pm

That warrants a phone call? Bad quarterback bias!

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by PaddyPat :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 1:42pm

Nice, nice, rejoinder.

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by Mxpx (not verified) :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 7:25am

This is funny because there is a hint of truth to the idea. Somehow Aaron Hernandez didn't warrant an EP for at least a week (and many hijacks in other threads). But Tebow getting released, now that warrants an EP within hours. hmm...

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by Rivers McCown :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 11:07am

Well originally we had planned to do XP's on every New England player that was released or waived, so consider yourself lucky.

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by Mxpx (not verified) :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 7:56pm

I laughed again. Its even more funny because Aaron Hernandez was a starter, pro-bowl caliber player, while this Tim guy was mopping up in the 4th quarter of the 4th preseason game. So clearly FO's standards for XP's are set in stone.

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by liquidmuse3 (not verified) :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 2:20pm

No, you're right...most 3rd string QBs are National Champion, Heisman-winning, 1st round picks whose last 2 starts were playoff games. Why run a special news item on this Tebow character?

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by Theo :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 3:11pm

Because it has been stated many times that an the news needs to have impact on the field for it to become an XP.
So yeah, Tebow was almost* beating Tom Brady for the starting QB spot - this was totally within the criteria.
That and bacause Tebow = traffic and comments.

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by Rivers McCown :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 7:51pm

Well it's mostly because we wanted to give a little head nod to Mike Tanier for calling this months ago and generally being awesome at writing. (See: the link.)

But okay, back to the part where we are biased and evil corporate tools for not putting up an Aaron Hernandez or Brian Urlacher retirement XP immediately while on book deadline. You'll show us yet!

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by Anonymousse (not verified) :: Tue, 09/03/2013 - 11:57pm

Tanier for calling it? About 90% of the football watching public didn't think he was going to make the roster.

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by jebmak :: Wed, 09/04/2013 - 3:09am

They should have written entertaining articles about it too, then.

Also, well played in this chain Rivers.

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by Theo :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 3:11pm

Because it has been stated many times that an the news needs to have impact on the field for it to become an XP.
So yeah, Tebow was almost* beating Tom Brady for the starting QB spot - this was totally within the criteria.
That and bacause Tebow = traffic and comments.

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by Gorilla Graham (not verified) :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 6:06pm

Because he's terrible...hasn't that been established yet? OMG he won a Heisman? Why won't anybody give Gino Torretta another shot? Or Jason White? Don't you know that those awards are the guarantee of stardom?

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by Theo :: Sat, 08/31/2013 - 6:53pm

They also released Zoltan Mesko. Space Emperor was his title, if I recall correctly.
This will have more impact on the field, than releasing Timmah.

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by the cat in the box is dead (not verified) :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 4:29am

That's awkward timing for Zoltan. Whedon just announced Ultron for Avengers 2 like, a month ago.

With that name, Zoltan totally had a shot if he'd been free.

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by Michael LaRocca (not verified) :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 7:36am

Will he shuffle off to Buffalo?

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by johonny (not verified) :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 11:28am

I thought for sure the NFL was going to force the Patriots to start him all year so the AFC EAST wouldn't be decided by halftime of week one.

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by jebmak :: Wed, 09/04/2013 - 3:28am

Oh, is Brady getting injured again?

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by The Ghost Of Art Donovan (not verified) :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 7:11pm

Patriots No Longer Interested In Tebow’s “Sack, Loss, ‘n Dashes” Approach To Quarterbacking

http://rumfordmeteor.com/?p=10796

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by dryheat :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 9:55pm

Who?

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by nat :: Sun, 09/01/2013 - 11:00pm

The Patriots. They're a football team based in Massachusetts. You may have heard of Massachusetts in history class.

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by dryheat :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 8:03am

Since I took history classes in Massachusetts, and I was visiting my parents there in my boyhood home last month, I feel I have a rudimentary knowledge of the Commonwealth.

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by nat :: Tue, 09/03/2013 - 1:44pm

Oh, then you must have been confused about who Tim Tebow was. :-)

That's quite understandable. He used to play professional football. But that was a couple of years ago. He made an otherwise quite good offense look decidedly below average.

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by JIPanick :: Wed, 09/04/2013 - 12:55pm

No comment on any other aspect of this, but to say that trainwreck of an offense was "otherwise quite good" is way off base.

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by sundown (not verified) :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 1:03am

Never made any sense, on any level. He didn't even play in one of the games and they never tried anything creative with him, which would have been the only logical use. Was McDaniels hoping to keep that stuff under wraps and spring it during the regular season?

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by Intropy :: Mon, 09/02/2013 - 3:49am

Yes. That's still the plan, but it's going to be Brady executing it now.