Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

28 Apr 2014

Mandatory Monday: Sam's Club?

A deep, painful dive into the world of Sam Bradford and Brian Schottenheimer. Stick around to the bitter end or check the Tailgater blog to see my Dali paintings of Schotty's melting-clock screen passes.

Posted by: Mike Tanier on 28 Apr 2014

15 comments, Last at 01 May 2014, 8:23pm by tuluse

Comments

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by MC2 :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 8:47am

When I saw the title, I was definitely expecting an article on who was likely to take a chance drafting Michael Sam. I probably should have known Tanier wouldn't be so predictable.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 11:54am

My initial thought was that it is some kind of reference to Casablanca

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by RickD :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:11pm

But that's Rick's Cafe Americain

(somehow that bit of trivia has stuck with me, gee I wonder why)

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by Jerry :: Tue, 04/29/2014 - 2:11am

As long as you don't tell us that the D somehow stands for Blaine....

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by Led :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 10:19am

That slight shaking of the earth you feel is the combined effect of all NYJ fans nodding their heads at once.

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by JoeyHarringtonsPiano :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 12:32pm

Most depressing ever nickname for an offense. How far the Rams have fallen from "Greatest Show on Turf".

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by Theo :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 1:24pm

Those guys were scary good.

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by Tim R :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 12:56pm

I do think its worth remembereing that during Bradford's games Stacy wasn't the starting running back and the running game was truly horrendous. Which certainly didn't help the passing game. That said I'm seriously disappointed that Schottenheimer didn't get fired, though I'm still pretty hopeful Bradford can turn into a good QB.

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by mrh :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:06pm

Bradford 2013 set career bests in comp%, td%, int%, sack% (tied), and of course ANY/A. He had a career high DVOA and his best DYAR per game (a bit lower than 2012 when he played 16 games).

Schottenheimer may be a crappy OC but he got more out of him than Shurmur or McDaniels.

The problem is that Bradford is not that good. No amount of line help or more wasted picks on WRs or new OCs is going to fix that.

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by nath :: Thu, 05/01/2014 - 7:32pm

Yeah-- even though they were career highs, congratulations, you're paying $17.5 million to a guy who after four years has reached the heights of "almost league-average when healthy." Of course, I don't think anyone involved with the Rams really understands offense.

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by tuluse :: Thu, 05/01/2014 - 8:23pm

I have never seen a quarterback forced to play with such consistently awful receivers as Bradford. I say this as a Bears fan. I don't think any receiver he has played with would be one of the 2 best targets for a competently managed offense.

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by StanSellsBoats :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:27pm

If Sam Bradford hadn't been drafted first overall way back when, would anyone still be asking if he's the Rams' quarterback of the future?

2010: 16 GS, -178 DYAR
2011: 10 GS, -329 DYAR
2012: 16 GS, 388 DYAR
2013: 7 GS, 304 DYAR

At least the DYAR is trending upward, but is he really producing so well when he's upright to justify all the lost time? Do the Rams really want to stake their future on a guy whose upside is "Joe Flacco but he can't stay on the field"?

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by Sifter :: Mon, 04/28/2014 - 3:57pm

I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks. Bradford looks average, but then Alex Smith is kinda similar. You can win with Smith, and you could win with Bradford.

Will be interesting to see what the Rams do in the draft. If they trade down in the first round for example, they could get extra picks, and still get one of the better QBs in the draft to try. They seem to have less glaring holes than years past, so potentially they could afford to burn a pick on a QB.

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by Bright Blue Shorts :: Tue, 04/29/2014 - 9:15am

In the past I would have said it was ok to keep a "You can win with him" QB and develop a good line, running game, defense around him.

But today one problem I see is that when you go onto win the Super Bowl he expects to be paid as one of the best QBs in the game and that takes money away from the all-important supporting cast.

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by Noah of Arkadia :: Tue, 04/29/2014 - 10:12am

I confess my first reaction was to make fun of your post because your objection contains the words "when you go onto win the Super Bowl", but then I thought, the man wants a dynasty and, why not? But in that case you can't just wait until the 2nd round and "burn a pick" on a QB. You need to find that next greatest QB and more likely than not he'll go high in the first round... whenever he does happen to come around.

I think STL should definitely draft a QB in the 2nd round, though. A 2nd round QB is a guy you can groom for a year and this seems like a good class for that. To be honest, the only QBs I like are Bridgewater, Manziel and Murray, but what do I know.

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