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26 Jul 2011

ESPN: Ranking 2011 Top Prospects: Nos. 11-25

The top prospects list is back! Enjoy a list of young players with little starting experience or pedigree that no longer includes Jerious Norwood.

Posted by: Aaron Schatz on 26 Jul 2011

13 comments, Last at 27 Jul 2011, 5:37pm by Intropy

Comments

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by QQ (not verified) :: Tue, 07/26/2011 - 4:58pm

For anyone that can see it are there any Packers on it? I assume Sam Shields would not qualify for the list

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by Drakos (not verified) :: Tue, 07/26/2011 - 10:13pm

16. Erik Walden, LB, Green Bay Packers

15. James Starks, RB, Green Bay Packers

11. Matt Flynn, QB, Green Bay Packers

So, yes.

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by Arkaein :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:29am

Starks and Flynn make perfect sense, but Walden? He basically had one huge game late last year (got NFC D Player of the Week), but a Wikipedia check shows that GB is his fourth team and that he's been in the NFL since 2008.

The Steelers are proof that 3-4 LBs can take a few years to bloom, but Walden is going to have a battle to land a starting spot at GB's ROLB, and is not even a lock to make the team (though he probably will, assuming Poppinga gets cut).

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by LeBronnedict Arnold :: Tue, 07/26/2011 - 8:45pm

Come on FO, why must you make your best stuff only available to ESPN Insiders? I hope you guys are getting plenty of money suckling from ESPN's giant, evil teet.

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by gratif1 (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 12:00am

booo insider

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by Podge (not verified) :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 8:00am

You'd do the same if it was your site.

But still, BOOOOOO!

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by trill :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 8:12am

1. I'm sure they're getting paid plenty, and 2. it's not their best stuff, so don't worry. I'd much rather read Walkthrough or Cover-2/3 or Word of Muth than any of that speculative silliness.

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by Aaron Schatz :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 11:36am

We've stated this numerous times in the past, but let me state it again:

If we did not have our deal with ESPN, we would need to put most content on FO.com behind a pay wall. That pay wall would cost more than a subscription to ESPN Insider costs, and you wouldn't get access to Mel Kiper, K.C. Joyner, Scouts Inc., plus John Hollinger and all the good stuff from other sports.

Trust me, this deal works best for us, for ESPN, and for our readers.

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by trill :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 3:07pm

Also ESPN: The Magazine makes an excellent flyswatter, adding significant value to the Insider subscription.

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by Joseph :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 4:29pm

(As posted in the #1-10 Prospects Conversation)
Even better--get ESPN the Mag as a gift for someone (in my case, my brother), keep the Insider subscription for yourself.

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by Intropy :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 3:28pm

I personally do not have an issue with the links to protected content. I'd rather have the link than nothing since readers with insider often post the basics of the article and generate discussion. However, I've seen a lot of complaints about it in the last few weeks. Maybe labeling links to insider differently from other links to espn would satisfy everyone. Okay, you can't satisfy everyone; maybe it would satisfy more people.

As a totally separate issue, I really like the "X comments ... Y new comments" since a large reason I come to the site is for the discussion. Some indication of the presence of new comments on links in the extra points box would be terrific.

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by tuluse :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 5:10pm

Use the tracker: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/tracker

I basically treat this as the main page for FO.

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by Intropy :: Wed, 07/27/2011 - 5:37pm

Oh, very nice. That'll do just fine. Thanks.