Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

13 Oct 2008

2008 Quick Reads:Week 6

This week's Quick Reads features top performances from Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, and Clinton Portis... and a surprisingly negative 111-yard performance from Adrian Peterson.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 13 Oct 2008

17 comments, Last at 14 Oct 2008, 4:03pm by ammek

Comments

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by shake n bake :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 7:28pm

Worst 100 yard rushing game ever?

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by Dan :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 11:42pm

Clinton Portis had -63 rushing DYAR for his 110 yard, 35 carry game against SF in week 15 of 2004 (plus another -1 receiving DYAR).

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by Tim Kirk (not verified) :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 7:33pm

Not that surprised to see Brandon Marshall at the bottom of the WR pile this week, but Denver were really suffering on offense this week.

Once Brandon Stokely left the game, with Royal and Scheffler already out, it seemed as though Cutler had only had one option in his head in pressure situations. TE Jackson dropped a couple of balls as well, which seemed to make it even more focused on Marshall.

Ironic that this is one week after a very good, controlled, performance from the Denver offense. I guess it demonstrates that Cutler is still learning... and having a defense that lets in too many big plays cannot help. Still Denver look better to me this year than last year - last year they were scrapping wins from behind and sometime falling apart, this year at least they are often taking leads, and the predominantly young OL will only improve with more time together. (If only the same could be said of the defense - it looks like another rebuild attempt there!)

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by Bob in Jax :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 10:36pm

That is correct -- by the second half, I and everyone watching with me could see Cutler locking on Brandon Marshall like a laser beam. It was sad! No pass offense can succeed like that, even IF your QB's arm is better than John Elway's (BTW, what is up with that?). After that started happening, the outcome of the game was never really in doubt. Yes, Marshall had a bad day (drops, fumble, etc.); but, yes, Cutler wasn't helping him any.

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by Fan in Exile :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 9:55am

Let's not forget either that Selvin Young was out for this game as well, so an already weak running attack was crippled even more. Pittman just doesn't have the break away speed that they need from a RB. There was at least one play where he got caught from behind and he should have been gone. I don't think Selvin is necessarily the answer but it certainly didn't help. I want to see how things go when Torain is up to speed.

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by Temo :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 7:46pm

On Brandon Marshall's awful day: "This is what happens when you actually listen to T.O. and force the ball to your best receiver over and over again. "

Really? So we're going to start blaming other receiver's misfortunes on Terrell Owens now?

The guy said ONE time this entire year, "Yea, I think we do well when they throw me the ball more".

Please.

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by roguerouge :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 8:47am

Wasn't that said after the game where he was targeted like 20 times?

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by dmb :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 11:04am

I didn't read the word "cause," "blame," "responsible," or any other such term assigning Owens the honor of creating the problems. They're saying, "here's a convenient test of T.O's Theory of How To Win Football Games!" No need to be so sensitive.

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by DangerGnat :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 1:59pm

Marshall's nickname "Baby TO" is just as accurate in the negative aspects as the positive. I predict as he becomes a more established star we'll also see more of the childish me-me-me behavior coming to the surface.

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by Jacob Stevens (not verified) :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 7:51pm

At first glance, I was astounded that Charlie Frye could be so, uhm, "high up" in quick reads. I guess it's mistakes all around that make him compete for bottom feeding, but really, take away the turnovers for all QBs, and wouldn't he be light years below second-to-last? 2.5 YPA!!!!!

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by Anonymous (not verified) :: Mon, 10/13/2008 - 11:38pm

Yes, it just the Oakland Raiders...but remember when Drew Brees was such a horrible QB that they benched him and spent a first round pick on a replacement? Times sure do change. I always like him and thought Marty was criminally misusing him back then.

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by fdsfds (not verified) :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:17am

"One thing Orton and his offensive line deserve credit for is keeping the Bears quarterback upright. Against a Falcons pass rush that's been excellent so far this year, Orton was sacked once in 45 dropbacks. That's very impressive."

The Falcons pass rush has not been 'excellent' this year. It's been below average. They're 24th in ASR, and if you actually saw any of their games you would grasp why (they only have one player who can consistently pressure the QB). Love the thoughtful analysis, Barnwell; your 'pulling-it-out-of-my-ass' methodology is what keeps me coming back to FO every week.

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by mawbrew :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 8:38am

"Frerotte advanced the ball 66 yards on two plays where Detroit committed a penalty preventing his wide receivers from catching a pass they otherwise would've caught."

I'm hoping this comment was based purely on the PBP sheet. The big PI (40+ yards) that set up the winning FG was just a terrible call. What little contact that did occur happened while the DB was tracking the ball, not the receiver. Terrific defense rewarded with a 40+ yard penalty. If Frerotte can come up with those consistently, the Vikes can start making Superbowl reservations.

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by MCS :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 9:08am

Coward. The only QB in the top 20 without comment is Favre. Why not?

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by ammek :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 4:03pm

a) Not true. No. 16 Marc Bulger.

b) There's nothing interesting to say about having an average game against the Bengals?

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by S :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 9:35am

Jeff Garcia is reported as having 100 Total DYAR, 99 passing DYAR, and 0 Rushing DYAR. Did he have < .5 rushing DYAR, but that was enough to push him to 100 total DYAR?

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by DGL :: Tue, 10/14/2008 - 9:35am

"(Portis) also served up some of his usual fantastic pass blocking, which isn't accounted for in his numbers, but goes a long way in making Campbell look good."

"Campbell should've ripped apart a porous St. Louis secondary, not gone 1-for-8 on third down with three sacks. "

Gosh. If that's "looking good..."