Writers of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

16 Jan 2011

Bears After Sid Luckman are Monsters of the Middling

I poke a little fun at the greatest Bears quarterbacks of the last 60 years. Such as they are.

Posted by: Mike Tanier on 16 Jan 2011

18 comments, Last at 18 Jan 2011, 10:16pm by Kal

Comments

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by justanothersteve :: Sun, 01/16/2011 - 2:39pm

Another excellent Tanier article. The Bobby Douglas description is classic.

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by Marko :: Sun, 01/16/2011 - 2:50pm

I don't have to read the article to know that "middling" is putting it kindly. More like miserable.

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by Anonymus (not verified) :: Sun, 01/16/2011 - 5:27pm

Mental note: do not read Tanier while drinking coffee.

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by Baltimoron (not verified) :: Sun, 01/16/2011 - 6:44pm

Where's Vince Evans at?

Where's the boy, Tanier?

Where's Vince Evans? That's all I wanna know.

Where the f*** is Vince Evans?!? Tanier! Tanier!

Look at me! Look at me! WHERE THE F*** IS VINCE EVANS!

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by Mike Tanier :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 12:40pm

Evans got cut for space. He had a paragraph talking about how his all-time favorite games were PRESEASON games. Since he said that with the Raiders, and was actually talking about Raiders games, I had to chop him out.

Mirer also got hacked for space reasons. If he played guitar, he would have replaced Hutchinson. Sean Payton and Mike Hohensee were due to have a sentence or two.

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by tuluse :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 4:05pm

Now I'm just sad we didn't get to see the article in it's full glory.

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by rapetzel (not verified) :: Sun, 01/16/2011 - 8:25pm

Saw this in the times today. Great article - and so thrilled to have found your writing Tanier!

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by dbt :: Sun, 01/16/2011 - 9:53pm

I dunno, other than the Washington game and his one half of getting pounded by the Giants, Cutler's been really good this year, and as his o-line has gotten their shit together the offense has developed some real firepower. Check out that weighted DVOA...

The general thesis of the article is good though. Go look through the list of guys that started a game at QB for your 2004 Chicago Bears.

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by Mr Shush :: Tue, 01/18/2011 - 2:53pm

Yeah, count me firmly in the camp that believes Cutler will have a long, up-and-down, but overall ultimately very successful career. He'll always make bad mistakes, but with better talent around him there will be fewer of those and more of the great plays he's also capable of.

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by Kal :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 2:48am

Awesome. Just pure awesome.

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by Charles Jake (not verified) :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 6:55am

The sad part is, you didn't have enough space to mention the Rick Mirer trade, Henry Burris, or Jonathan Quinn.

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by zlionsfan :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 8:58am

I think the only Lions fans who talk about a curse are blind disciples of Dan Shaughnessy. It's pretty obvious that there is no curse that affects the franchise, unless it's the curse of incompetent ownership.

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by anymouse (not verified) :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 9:14am

It's sad because this article could have been four times as long.

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by Big Frank :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 9:44am

No mention of Craig Krenzel or Jon Quinn? Son, I am disappoint.

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by Charlie (not verified) :: Mon, 01/17/2011 - 10:43am

It's funny because it's true

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by CraigS (not verified) :: Tue, 01/18/2011 - 11:17am

Heh...yeah, the Bears aren't exactly a QB factory. You did say though that after Kramer there wasn't anyone with success until Grossman/Orton, but that's not true. Jim Miller had a couple years with a fair amount of success, as Bears QB's go anyway.

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by B34R51 :: Tue, 01/18/2011 - 3:05pm

Well we are in the playoffs and in Chicago NOT Green Bay. So who gets the last laugh? Heh heh guess we'll see come next Sunday huh?

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by Kal :: Tue, 01/18/2011 - 10:16pm

I liked this also for showing exactly how amazing Sid Luckman was. 28 TD passes in 10 games back in the 40s? What is that, like 90 TD passes now in today's game? This came on a total of 202 passes and 110 completions - meaning that one in every 4 passes he made was a TD.

Just nuts. I wonder if that's the best single season for a QB in history. It certainly sounds more impressive than 50 TDs in 16 games with the modern passing offense.