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05 Sep 2011

One Foot Inbounds: Boise's Town

by Robert Weintraub

In 2005, I drove out to Athens to see Boise State. At the time, they were a mid-major with some juice, and I was hoping they'd come to Georgia and give the locals a whupping. Instead, Georgia crushed Boise 48-13. I left at halftime, virtually the only time I’ve ever done that.

Saturday night, I went to see another Boise team take on UGA in its home state. This time, I stayed throughout. At halftime, I went to the lavatory, and reveled in the muttering and grumbling from the partisan Dawgs crowd (they made up about 90 percent of the 74,000 in the house). Offensive coordinator Mike Bobo took the brunt of the abuse from fans that didn’t want to admit they were getting beat down by a squad that supposedly couldn’t hang with an SEC team.

The final was 35-21, and it wasn’t that close. The Broncs dominated along both lines, especially on defense, where they sacked Aaron Murray six times and harassed him all night long. By contrast, Kellen Moore of Boise was scarcely touched, and carved up UGA’s young defense like a kosher butcher with a sturgeon.

Mark Richt now faces a must-win against the fightin’ cocks of South Carolina. Drop to 0-2 and the Ray Goff treatment will be coming from the UGA faithful. It’s an easy schedule after that though, and Georgia’s young talent is likely to improve as the season goes along, setting up a redemptive storyline for Richt even as many call for his head.

Meanwhile, there is seemingly little stopping Boise from an unbeaten season. They toyed with Georgia despite getting in Dutch with the NCAA, losing three Netherlanders to eligibility questions before the game. Only back-to-back games in November against TCU and at San Diego State figure to trouble the Blue Turfers, so prepare for two months and change of debating their BCS worthiness. If you prefer the root canal, I can’t say I blame you.

As for the aforementioned Frogs, was that really Tank Carder looking around in bewilderment as Baylor hung half a hundred on his defense Friday night? That’s usually a month of Saturdays against a Gary Patterson D. I refuse to call Robert Griffin III “RG3,” so let’s say that the “Waco Wonder” put on a display not seen on the Brazos since local legend Ted Nugent bagged several bucks on a single hunt with his bow and arrow. Griffin and sensational wideout Kendall Wright humiliated the purple swarm, hooking up for 189 yards and two touchdowns (of five thrown by Griffin). But it was a pass Wright threw to Griffin, on the rare double pass that saw the quarterback go right up the seam rather than run a wheel route, that converted a late third-and-10 and enabled the field goal that gave Baylor the monumental 50-48 win.

Say goodbye to TCU’s 25-game regular season winning streak. Another streak, Auburn’s 15-gamer (counting bowls and conference championship games), was all but lost. The defending national champs may have lost Cam Newton and Nick Fairley, but some things remain the same, like the Tigers wiping out seemingly insurmountable deficits. Down ten to Utah State with 3:38 to play? Get pushed around by a WAC also-ran all day (four TD drives of 14 or more plays)? No sweat. Two scores in the waning moments, a late sack on the otherwise brilliant true freshman Chuckie Keeton, and War Eagle! Instead of the win streak going by the boards, the Charmin goes up the sick oaks of Toomer’s Corner. New Tigers quarterback Barrett Trotter is no Newton, and his mustache needs more commitment, but he made the plays when needed. He was helped mightily by Trevonte Stallworth’s 7,907 yards after the catch (stat may be approximated). While clearly this ain’t 2010 Auburn, remember that the Tigers pulled out numerous games like this (OK, maybe not quite like this) en route to winning all the Tostitos last season.

Auburn may be in the midst of a startling run of snatching victory at the last gasp, but LSU? They invented it, at least under The Lester. No need at JerryWorld against Oregon, however, as the Bengals blitzed the Mallards 40-27. Make that two straight struggles for Oregon’s spread against SEC defensive lines that shut down the run. Next week’s Miami-Ohio St. contest may be the Non-Compliance Bowl, but LSU-Oregon was the Felony Bowl. The Tigers missed their alleged lawbreaker, Jordan Jefferson, far less than the Ducks did theirs, cornerback-returner Cliff Harris. The sturm und drang over Jefferson’s suspension for his An Officer and a Gentleman-style attack on a Marine at Shady’s Wine Bar and Brie Tasting Club in Baton Rouge eluded me. Didn’t anyone see JJ play last season? Jarrett Lee isn’t any worse, certainly. More to the point, LSU’s 11 strong, fast men on defense and special teams (especially Tyrann Mathieu) are enough to beat most opponents. Which is fortunate, given their brutal schedule.

A schedule that will doubtlessly be thrown in Boise State’s face while they are busy burying Toledo and Wyoming. After all, everyone knows if Boise played an SEC schedule they’d blah blah blah...

TOEDRAGS

  • Let’s start here -- Lee Roy Selmon, RIP.
  • Wisconsin, a 35-point favorite, missed an extra point and took its collective foot off the gas in an uncharacteristic manner Thursday night against UNLV, winning by only 34 and ruining my initial Lock pick for 2011. The Badgers are thus dead to me for the season.
  • Anyone else see a severe weather delay at Notre Dame Stadium and flash back to the tragic death of Declan Sullivan when the windstorm blew through practice and toppled the young student’s scissor lift? Can’t say I was disappointed that South Florida knocked off the Irish 23-20.
  • USC to Richmond is an unusual transfer path, but Aaron Corp is reveling in the move after the new Spiders quarterback helped lead a 23-21 upset of Duke.
  • The Trojans don’t miss Corp, but they could use some of Richmond’s other players. Only quarterback Matt Barkley and supreme wideout Robert Woods (three touchdowns) showed in the last-gasp edging of lowly Minnesota. Just part of a putrid first Saturday for the spanking new Pac-12. Colorado lost to Hawaii, UCLA dumped by Houston, and Oregon State somehow fell to FCS school Sacramento State, who were no doubt led by Vlade Divac and Mike Bibby. Washington barely scraped past Eastern Washington, and Washington State lost its starting quarterback. Thank goodness for OFI favorite Vontaze Burfict and Arizona State!
  • And in the clear cut game of the opening weekend, Syracuse gave Wake a false sense of security, spotting the Deacs a 29-14 lead late in the game. But SU pulled the comeback, and won in overtime. Syracuse heads west for the Coliseum in two weeks time, and amazingly, I’m thinking the Cuse roll the Men of Troy! (OK, probably not)

OFI TOP 25

1. LSU
2. Boise State
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma
5. Florida State
6. Texas A&M
7. Oklahoma State
8. Stanford
9. Wisconsin
10. South Carolina
11. Virginia Tech
12. Arkansas
13. Mississippi State
14. Oregon
15. Michigan State
16. West Virginia
17. Baylor
18. South Florida
19. Florida
20. Northwestern
21. Missouri
22. Arizona State
23. Michigan
24. Houston
25. Auburn

NOTE: Obviously, the rankings are volatile this early. I give far more credit to the teams that actually played and beat quality opposition than those that rolled cupcakes.

LOWSMAN TROPHY WATCH

Welcome to the second season of this column’s coverage of the best performances by “non-skill” players every week. We give love to the linemen and the linebackers, the defensive backs and the punters, who affect the game greatly but are essentially ineligible for the Heisman Trophy. Last season, Patrick Peterson started out fast, and Gabe Carimi came on strong, but it was Nick Fairley who put the full season together to win the OFI Lowsman Trophy Award. Who will be the lucky one this year?

Here are this week’s five spotlight performances:

1. Shea McClellin, DE Boise State.
First among equals on the Broncs pass rush.

2. Brandon Herren, LB, Michigan.
Amazingly, no Wolverine defender had ever scored two touchdowns in a game before Herren took a pick and a fumble back for sixes. His 94-yard interception return was the longest in school history as well.

3. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU.
Game-changing strip six on punt coverage plus ten tackles and airtight coverage.

4. Jerrell Young, S, South Florida.
Had the all-important strip on the goal line that teammate Kayvon Webster returned for a momentum-swinging 96-yard score, and then sealed the deal with a late pick to send Irish eyes frowning.

5. Chris Brooks, K, Auburn.
How can you not reward that perfect onside kick?

Posted by: Robert Weintraub on 05 Sep 2011

38 comments, Last at 27 Mar 2013, 6:01am by pawello

Comments

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by Ice Man (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 11:26am

Congrats to BS for a solid win.

As the debate to rage again while BS runs the table, we'll hear about how BS "deserves" to play for the national championship. We'll also hear that we should have a playoff.

Several key points.

1. Boise State is a good team, and can play with anybody, certainly for one game, and probably for an entire season. No questions about their ability to compete at this level.

2. Yes, it would be great to have a playoff. But we don't have one. Now, we are left with the problem of how to allocate the TWO tickets that we have for that big game.

3. Since we only have two spots in the game, they should go to the MOST deserving programs - not to teams that "might" be the best team, but that only have one or two quality wins. Can Boise ever be considered one of the most deserving programs given that they only have one or two or three competitive opponents each year? Same argument as last year when BS went 1 for 2 in their competitive games.

4. Yes, BS can play with anyone, but without sustained accomplishments on the field, they cannot leapfrog teams that play a more competitive schedule. Great win against Georgia. Do you know what this is called in the SEC? It's called Saturday. You have to do it four or five times a season against quality teams. Auburn beat Georgia last year - sandwiched between wins over LSU and Alabama! After playing Mississippi State, Clemson, and Arkansas. That's the difference.

Sorry Boise. And TCU last year. Your teams are good, can play with anybody, but do not deserve one of the two tickets. Doesn't matter if the SEC winner, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Wisconsin all end up with two losses.

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by bird jam :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 11:57am

Very well put.

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by Joe123 (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 12:30pm

I completely disagree. They can only play the teams on their schedule. If they aren't going to get a fair shot, then kick them (and all the other non-BCS schools) out of the FBS and end they hypocrisy.

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by Harrison Bergeron (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:48pm

That's one solution - I think we're due for another split, like the 1978 split between Division I-A and I-AA. There just is no way that Arkansas State and Western Kentucky should be in the same "division" as Alabama, Texas, or Ohio State when they play almost entirely different games.

Or, if schools like TCU and Boise wanted to play with the big boys but can't get into a power conference, they could take matters into their own hands: either go independent and create their own competitive schedule, a la BYU, or make sure that their nonconference schedule makes up for their weak conference. This year they played Georgia, sure, but also play Toledo, Tulsa, Nevada, and Fresno State out of the MWC. They've shown an ability to schedule decent BCS schools in the past - Georgia, Virginia Tech, Oregon, Oregon State, etc. If they played and beat 4-5 decent BCS teams in a given year, then I don't think anyone would have a problem including Boise in the discussion.

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by DRohan :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 12:45pm

Can't disagree with what you said, but it also clearly illustrates that the FBS is a JOKE. A large majority of the teams have ZERO chance at winning a championship regardless of what they do on the field. Teams like Boise State can only do so much in trying to schedule the "big boys." It takes two to tango and the teams in the AQ conferences have little incentive to put the Broncos on their schedule.

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by Harrison Bergeron (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:51pm

If Boise can't schedule the big boys, how have they played Georgia, Virginia Tech, Oregon, Washington, and Oregon State in recent years? Boise is a national draw, even if only as a curiosity. They probably could play more than one AQ team per year, but for some reason they don't.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:37pm

How do you determine how good SEC teams are? Their best accomplishments are playing each other. Florida, for instance, hasn't played an out of state non-con game since losing at Syracuse in the 1980s. The entire conference has played something like 3 games north of the Mason-Dixon line in the last decade.

Notice that Oregon had to come to Dallas to play LSU and Boise had to come to Atlanta. The SEC won't travel more than walking distance from home and doesn't play home-and-homes non-con, and then plays bowl games within their region.

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by lionsbob :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 10:21pm

Watch this Saturday when Alabama goes to Penn State (or a couple of years ago when LSU went to Washington for a one-game event). Oregon went to Dallas for a reason (recruiting and national exposure). The SEC and their non-conference is no different then the other major conferences.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 11:33pm

USC, Stanford, Oklahoma, FSU, Miami, OSU, Texas, and VT all play high-profile road non-con games. It's nice for Alabama to venture out of the south though. That doesn't happen enough.

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by lionsbob :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 10:18am

As does Alabama and LSU (LSU is also going to West Virginia this season on top of playing Oregon in Dallas). Again it is no different then any other conference or any other team. I think USC and Ohio State have been the best I doing home-away combo games in their non-conference opponents, everybody else is about the same. I assume you are talking about this season with some of those teams (as Oklahoma plays FSU and OSU plays Miami), though perhaps not because Virginia Tech plays no one this year.

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by Aaron Brooks' Good Twin (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 11:13am

I meant in the last couple of years. First time in years that VT hasn't had a major non-con game.

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by Adam H (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 4:40pm

Ice Man:

If Boise is undefeated and looks like one of the best teams in the country, they should get in over a one or two loss "big six" team. Generally. But we're getting way ahead of ourselves. Decisions should not be made until we know what we're deciding...

Really, I only disagree with a couple of your points: First, I think that a team can have a "quality win" over a garbage opponent. Play impressively and I'll be impressed.

Second, I weigh losses much more than you do, apparently. IMO a typical 2 loss big-6 conference champ with 2 losses is usually MUCH less deserving than an undefeated Boise. I mean, they lost! Twice!

2007 (with Hawaii and LSU) is an obvious counterexample, but hawaii had not played well in any of their wins, they had several close games against some really bad teams, and I think unranked washington was their best win. I mean, that's pretty bad. Boise's schedule this season might turn out to be just as bad, but I would prefer for the media not to shut them out of the NCG until we find out.

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by Ice Man (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 12:48pm

Joe123...I understand your point, but if you follow that line of thinking, then the following scenarios comes true:

Just for the sake of argument, assume that South Carolina, Florida, Alabama, and LSU all appear to be very strong teams. LSU beats Alabama, but loses to Miss St. and Arkasas, so Alabama goes to the SEC championship, where they beat FLorida or South Carolina. Alabama is 12-1 and Oklahoma is undefeated.

Are you really taking the positon that Boise State should get in head of one of these teams because they can only play the teams on their schedule? Or because they beat Georgia? Or because there is no playoff, and it's their "turn"?

That's why schedule is important. Boise State might actually have gotten in last year, but they couldn't beat Nevada, which actually provide my point. If you don't get tested regularly, we have no idea how good you might be...we can't waste a one the two spots on an unproven team.

What if Harvard goes 11-0? Do they get in?

Please explain your position. I must be missing something because it just does not seem reasonable to me...

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by dbostedo :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 2:28pm

I'd guess his position (and pardon me if I'm wrong) is what DRohan pointed out above. If you're going to say all of these schools are in the FBS, and all have a shot at the national title game, then they should all actually have a real shot at the national title game.

I'm not sure I agree with that, but I can understand the point. The problem is that there are so many FBS schools, that they can't all really be on equal footing with regard to schedule. I don't have a problem saying that there is a sliding scale with regard to championship game eligibility.

1) The BCS conferences (and Notre Dame) - Some obviously get more of a benefit of the doubt. I.e. a 1-loss SEC or Big Ten team may get in over an undefeated ACC or Big East team.

2) Conference USA/MWC (and BYU) - Would have to be undefeated and probably have everyone from the SEC, PAC-12, Big Ten, and Big 12 have 1 or more likely 2 losses.

3) Everyone else - Would probably need a miracle

Saying you can only play the games you're given is true. But by the same token, the FBS is way too big for every team to play anything like equivalent schedules (in terms of difficulty). So you wind up falling back on the conferences alignments, which tend to concentrate the stronger teams into particular conferences. (No doubt this is in part because they have a better shot at a national title - it's a bit of a self-reinforcing situation; Although funding is the bigger factor.)

The problem I guess is the gray area. Boise State could clearly compete in the SEC; But at what level? Would they have averaged 2 losses the last few years? Or 4? Or 6? Or none?

So sure, it's unfair not to let them play in the title game. But letting them play in the title game if they go undefeated does the opposite - it's unfair to everyone else who plays a tougher schedule.

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by MTR (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 2:46pm

That's the whole problem with having a two team playoff (the current system). It's only slightly better than just voting for a national champion directly - anybody honest has to admit they're just guessing.

But yes, I would hope Boise State would get that spot (but know they wouldn't). Why? Let me put it this way: do you think Alabama is calling Boise State's AD trying to get a game? No, it's the other way around. A few schools have successfully locked up the competition simply by refusing to play anybody who might challenge them - and then insisting the challenger can't be all that good, since they didn't play them!

As things stand it's a hypocritical system where "every game counts" and "everybody has a chance" and things are the way they are "for the benefit of the amateur student-athletes" when anybody with two brain cells knows none of those are true, and when I watch a game I end up feeling dirty, like I've been supporting the mafia or something.

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by zlionsfan :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 5:17pm

Actually, I think the BCS is significantly worse than voting alone. At least back then there was no illusion of playing for the title on the field. Now, there's a charade of an objective process that carefully excludes anyone not in the elite conferences, no matter how good they are ... and that won't change with conference expansion. If anything, there will simply be more schools interested in preserving the status quo, or maybe a similar number if both the Big East and Big 12 collapse.

Until there is an NCAA playoff in I-A ball, it'll be a game by the elites and for the elites; the other schools are there simply to fill out schedules. (Unfortunately, that's true to an extent even with the existence of a true playoff. Butler is the exception, not the rule ... and for every non-power-conference team that makes a solid run, there are many basketball teams barely able to stay afloat financially, desperately chasing the playoff lottery ticket that they will never cash in. A I-A playoff will help schools like Boise State who could never play for a title otherwise, but will put additional pressure on Sun Belt and MAC schools to stay in over their heads, as well as I-AA schools who'll be tempted to chase the money just like their DI basketball teams do.)

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by MTR (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:25pm

I suspect at some point in the not too distant future we'll see a lot of school close down football, either because players are officially being paid (under the guise of something else) or injury/concussion lawsuits make it too dangerous. That, sadly, will take care of the controversy.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:42pm

I kind of doubt it. Football made many of those Div-I schools. The Ivy League pouts so badly about football because prior to football's popularity explosion and their loss of hegemony over it, they were the largest schools in the country.

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by Adam H (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 4:52pm

I feel obligated to point out that it appears the reason you dislike the BCS is because it IS a playoff (there's a charade of an objective process that carefully excludes anyone not in the elite conferences, no matter how good they are).

So you just want to expand the playoff. But you should acknowledge that we would still be having this same discussion about the next best teams left out of the playoff.

I think we should expand to a 4 team playoff, because I think the difference between the 1st and 3rd best teams is much smaller than the 1st and 5th team. Not because of any big conference elitism or whatever.

The fact is that if Auburn or Oregon had lost last year, TCU would have been in the NCG. There is no conspiracy against them, just undefeated teams with better schedules.

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by Eddo :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 5:28pm

It's tough; you're obviously not wrong. An undefeated Boise State team is likely not better than a run-of-the-mill one-loss LSU team, for example.

However, hypothetically, what if Auburn had lost to Utah State (which they arguably should have), but then ran the table? Are they more qualified than an undefeated Boise State team, which didn't lose to the likes of a poor team like USU? I would argue otherwise. Or what if Alabama loses one game, but has several close wins as well, including a close win over the Georgia team that BSU just dominated?

I guess that's a long way of saying that it should be taken on a case-by-case basis. You definitely cannot claim that any undefeated team deserves a berth over any one-loss team; however, by the same logic, you also can't say that any one- or two-loss SEC team deserves a berth over an undefeated Boise State team.

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And, Harvard plays in the FCS; they are not eligible to play for the BCS championship. It's mostly irrelevant to your point, but using literal impossibilities won't help you make your point.

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by Joe123 (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 6:06pm

Yes, I can claim that any undefeated teams deserves a spot over any one-loss team. This is football, not figure skating - you don't get style points, either you win or you lose. If your intent is to determine the champion, then the undefeated team deserves the spot. If your intent is to determine the "best team", then you can argue about strength of schedule and close games and all that stuff.

I know I'm in the minority opinion on this.

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by Joe123 (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 6:01pm

My position is there should be a playoff like every other division of college football has, so every team in the FBS would have a fair opportunity to win the championship. The FBS is the only sport/division/league/conference I know of where half the teams have zero chance to win the championship no matter what they do on the field.

So again, either the BCS schools should split from the non-BCS schools, or every team should have an equal opportunity to win the championship. If Eastern Michigan goes undefeated, they should have a chance to play for a national championship, whether that's among the FBS schools or in a separate division.

Since we're stuck with the current system, the spots should go to the teams that accomplished the most on the field, not who people think are the best teams. So yes, an undefeated Boise State (or anyone else) should get in ahead of a one-loss team from the SEC or Big Ten, IMO.

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by Kal :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:10am

How is beating Eastern Tennessee State and Northwestern South Carolina accomplishing the most? I mean, this is football outsiders we're talking about - a site that is devoted to showing that wins are not the best indicator of team strength. Do you really think a 12-0 team with a cupcake schedule has accomplished more than (for example) being the SEC champion? Or the Big-10 champion?

College football hasn't been about the championship of the whole country. It had been about winning your division and then beating a rival division in a bowl game. That was the way it was for 90 years. All the BCS does is make sure that the #1 and #2 teams play each other - and as good as Boise State has been, they've done nothing to show that they are in that upper echelon. Their best team was last year - and that team lost to a fairly good but not insanely great Nevada team. That describes about 70% of the teams in the Big-10, Pac-12, Big-12 and SEC.

Yeah, it might be unfair to Boise. Tough noogies. Play a harder schedule, go independent or join another conference.

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by MTR (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 12:45pm

"Nothing to show?" Have you already forgotten Saturday?

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by lionsbob :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 2:14pm

Beating Georgia is no big deal. Last I saw Georgia, Central Florida was taking care of business against them.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:38pm

What if Harvard goes 11-0? Do they get in?
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That's easy. The Ivy League doesn't play post-season games.

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by TV_Pete (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 2:00pm

I watched several games, but mostly focused on Saturday night's games.

I would suggest:

LSU > Oregon > Boise State > Georgia

Not sure where Florida fits in there, but probably better than Georgia, at least. Florida State, Oklahoma are probably better than Oregon, IMO.

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by Aaron Brooks Go... :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:43pm

It's not like Boise and Oregon haven't played twice in the last 3 years, with Boise winning both times...

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by Kal :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:06am

It's not like Boise whooped Oregon back in 2008 after Oregon lost their first two starting QBs. I'd love to see how that goes again; IIRC Darron Thomas came on and scored 3 TDs in the final quarter to narrowly lose to BSU. And that was without LMJ (as was 2009). Please, let's go try that one again.

Georgia...just isn't a great team. It was a quality win for BSU, but one win over a good but not great SEC team does not mean you're a better team. They can only play who is on their schedule, but at the same time should we punish the other schools who play harder schedules for that? Go down that road, and teams will only schedule one hard team a year.

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by Aunty Rust (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 2:25pm

The BCS agrees with the OP. Which is why the BCS will eventually be deemed illegal.

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by Oliver (not verified) :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 2:41pm

I agree. "RG3" isn't a nickname, it's an abbreviation (same thing for "nicknames" like C-Webb, D-Wade, etc.). I will henceforth refer to Robert Griffin III as the "Waco Wonder" to my friends and family in an effort to get him a real nickname going.

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by batbatt :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 4:04pm

I agree as well that RG3 isn't a nickname. I nominate "the Waco Kid."

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by Eddo :: Mon, 09/05/2011 - 5:29pm

Well done. As a reward, may I present to you this laurel... and hearty handshake?

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by Kevin from Philly :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:00pm

No mention of the ugliest uniforms in college football? As if Miami didn't have enough distractions, they had deal with retina burns from those new Maryland abominations? Yuck!

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by Eddo :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:47pm

"Posted by: Robert Weintraub on 05 Sep 2011"

This went up a few hours before Maryland took the field.

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by Harrison Bergeron (not verified) :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 3:56pm

Those uniforms were loud enough that Robert should have seen them in the future.

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by dbostedo :: Tue, 09/06/2011 - 5:24pm

+1

Although honestly, I kind of liked them just for being different. Although I didn't see them until I had heard over and over how awful they were, so maybe I was prepared.

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by pawello (not verified) :: Wed, 03/27/2013 - 6:01am

It takes two to tango and the teams in the AQ conferences have little incentive to put the Broncos on their schedule.e-papierosy
e-papierosy