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This thread is for discussion of action on the field during and after Week 14 Sunday Night Football between New Orleans and Dallas as well as Monday Night Football between Chicago and St. Louis.
WWL radio (the flagship of the New Orleans Saints Radio Network--represent!!!) has said that Colston survived the pregame workouts and should play tonight.
Joe Horn, however, allegedly did not make the trip. It's one of Payton's policies that if a player can not play, he does not travel.
The Fresh Prince will also be playing tonight, and he did not miss any practice.
BTW, I still can't understand half the things that Bobby Hebert says, and my grandfather was part Cajun.
You need Jake Dlehomme to translate for you.
I just finished watching the Giants play. It is no wonder that Tiki wants to retire at the end of the year. That team is filled with classless, headcase players. They yell at their teammates, yell at the refs, whine and pout on the sidelines, take dirty shots. I've never seen a team this bad. Are there any other teams out there like this? Between Plexico Burress, Jeremy Shockey, Chris Snee, Kiyonuka I guess it was screaming at his own defensive socondary, Sam Madison and others, this team is a character mess. I noticed how much respect Tiki has from around the league. Every time he is tackled, players from the other team help him up. It must pain him beyond belief to be a part of that circus up there in New York right now.
And yet they're still going to the playoffs, despite an injury-wracked season . . .
Not if the Jeff Garcias have anything to say about it.
Is it not fairly plausible they could both get wild cards, with one at 9-7 and the other 8-8 or even both 8-8?
ouch, they've already started pounding us with the Mellencamp crap. I really do think he should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
I've found a commercial almost as annoying as This is our country.
That damn Jessica Simpson direct TV commercial.
Sure, she's hot (I guess?) but it's on just as often and I lump her in with that Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie group of "we're famous despite having no talent and for no real reason."
I hate that.
That mellencamp song is ruining some of the best NFL highlights of all time...
Of course, this is our country.
I hate John f-ing Mellencamp.
9: At least Simpson had her moments of hotness.
She's still a gazillion times hotter than Pink.
#11 - I envy you.
Okay, sitting on my fantasy bench are Fred Taylor and Julius Jones. and I benched them both for Deuce and Steve Jackson...
But Pink can sing and she's a ....well, a singer.
So I guess there won't be any holding calls tonight.
Just sit back and enjoy Carlson's incisive analysis and Bayfield's failed comparisons to rugby.
Wow. Julius Jones untouched. How did that happen?
And something nice said about TO. I wonder if Plexico could learn something from TO about playing hard despite being a jerk.
Can anyone tell me if Parrish is playing for the Cowboys?
Ok, so Wikipedia tells me John Mellencamp is a singer of the politically leftist persuasion.
I have NFL Field Pass, so I do see some US adverts when I can't be bothered to change games; is he the perpetrator of the backing music on that God-awful Chevvy advert?
Bush made some good moves on a short pass play. It's really hard for me to figure out why he'd been struggling so much.
Wow, some useful commentary. They just pointed out that the Cowboys used 6 linemen on a passing play.
re: 21 yes. He is. And most of us hate him for it.
The New Orleans defense is rather shoddy. Just look at the starters. Only Charles Grant and Will Smith, really, can be considered above average players.
It seems like about 1 or 2 players from each team quote their High School instead of their college. Why do so many players who were obviously sucessful stars on their college team dislike their college?
They must have a good reason. I wonder if there isn't a whole lot more problems between colleges and their athletes than we ever hear about.
We wouldn't mind it as much if they didn't play it with such mind-numbing frequency...
From what I understand some of the lyrics of the actualy song aren't that bland, but Chevy of course doesn't use those...
Joe Horn was ruled out even before the day began, so it makes sense for him not to make the trip.
on the first down by Bush, Campbell could've made a key block, but chose to stand around and watch.
Did I just hear them say that a difference between Bush and Sanders is that Bush loses yardage a lot?
Have we forgotten what kind of a player Barry Sanders was?
saints having serious problems running up the middle on Dallas.
No, they said that was a similarity. They both lose yardage looking for the big play.
But to be fair to Barry, Barry seems to have been better at finding the big play.
No, they were saying that was something Bush and Sanders had in common.
Free Mike Karney!
They really should go for it here.
why does reggie bush stutter so much before even reaching the LoS? he needs to sometimes run right at the defender rather than avoiding him
The most exciting three-yard gain in NFL history.
very risky play on 4th and 1. Look at how far Henderson had to run just to get back to the LOS.
Ware looked offside on that sack.
Oh. He was.
My God, Reggie can jump.
Thank you Al Michaels, for informing us that 8 yards is in fact 24 feet.
 I think most of the time that is just a shout out to the hometown folks, and not a diss on the college.
Does anybody else here think that Reggie Bush is going to get himself killed if he doesn't stop leaping forward like that?
nice variation on the tight end middle screen.
was that bush that was used as a decoy in that one?
I think someone needs to work out a new name for whatever the hell position it is Bush plays in the pros, because it isn't running back.
wow, Tony Dungy in a commercial. You don't see that much.
reggie bush-your next contestant on "dancing with the stars"
all jokes aside, he looks very explosive when he's not being stuffed for no gain.
lol, Madden said that was Karney's first carry of the season. Why does he say these things without researching it first? Karney had 6 carries and 8 catches coming into this game.
How can Brees be a candidate for comeback player of the season when he's been playing at a pro-bowl level for the last two years?
i don't think a defender is ever "really" ready for the ball carrier to just leap randomly. He could get killed but it would probably be just a random guy running by.
how did ware and merriman last till double digits in the 2005 draft?
who were drafted before him - rice, sanders, elway or what?
well, alex smith was.....
definitely free Karney... I have McAllister doing nothing on my fantasy team and... sigh, I guess I can empathize with people who started Fason...
Tis the day of Karney!
um, well, that eli manning guy, that phillip rivers guy, that mike williams guy (stupid millen), pacman jones.
I also had Deuce starting, and it seems Karney is taking away his touches.
49 - ahead of them:
You can't stop Mike Karney. You can only hope to contain him.
1. Alex Smith
2. Ronnie Brown
3. Braylon Edwards
4. Cedric Benson
5. Cadillac Williams
7. Troy Williamson
8. Antrel Rolle
9. Carlos Rogers
10. Mike Williams
THIS IS OUR COUNTRY
watching that horrible ad 10 times a game makes me want to throw things at my TV. If it were only for one game, fine. BUT DAMN IT, EVERY WEEK!!???? Screw you, Mellencamp. Screw you, Chevy. And screw you, TV stations for being heartless.
i went to wikipedia for a quick reference and think the only ones who picks that could be justified: pac-man jones, ronnie brown and maybe alex smith.
we already know a few busts there. hello troy, hello mike.
there are some decent picks - edwards, benson, rolle and rogers but any of these teams could have taken SM or Ware
nice interception, but i am surprised that there was no "delay of game" call made on the play
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear at this point that Merriman was the best player in that draft class, and Ware top-5. I think it may be a general truth that when a draft is reckoned to be particularly stacked at a given position, teams start drafting that position too late (see 2006 quarterbacks).
We've been "mellencamped" yet again.
The problem with the Saints playing on Sunday or Monday nights is that I have to work on the following day.
Just an observation as I go for a bit more Bourbon.
Is this how the prophecied Romo-meltdown begins?
oops, I'm an idiot.
I recall that Merriman and Ware didn't have jaw-dropping measurables, or something like that.
Of course, with the triumph of troy williamson and fabian washington, the 40 remains an outstanding predictor of potential.
#66 - You think you've got it bad? Try watching those games live in GMT.
Are you playing the John Mellencamp drinking game?
SOB! Karney is vulturing Deuce's TDs.
the legend of mike karney continues to grow!
That's it. Karney is now on my fantasy team.
#44 playing his 44th career game, and is fantasy gold. Man, I had no idea this was coming. I guess I should've picked up Karney off free agency and started him over Deuce. :D
Merriman wasn't nearly as strong or as fast when he was at Maryland as he is now. There's really no way anyone could assume his body would transform the way it did.
70: The way this is going, I may start playing the Mike Karney drinking game.
THIS IS OUR COUNTRY!
68: which year are you refering to?
i think both SM & ware had approx. 10 sacks last year and are about there this year as well.
saints are killing a lot of fantasy leagues right now ... wonder if there are 10 people on the planet who have karney starting?
Karney is loose!
RE: 78 His supplier probably had some idea...
I have said it before and I will say it again: John Cougar Mellancamp and GM are going to make me join Al Queda.
This is our country.
Mike Karney - the only man in the NFL that Austin Powers fears.
If you download illegal copies of that new NBC show, would that be Identity theft?
I can't keep going through TV's like this!
Does John Mellencamp have a deal with Best Buy?
Have they considered playing the Silverado commercials in Iraq, just replacing it with comparable images from the middle east?
Speaking of commercials, am I the only one who believes that the crappiest beers have the best commercials? You'll note that there are no, say, Chimay commercials during football season...
69: True, but I have to use my vacation time for Boxing Day and its aftermath. Spending the day at the pub watching the Premiership will do that to you.
Not really. Ware and Merriman flourish most in a 3-4 defense. They would not be the same player on a 4-3 defense, because I don't think they'd be consistent enough against the run from the DE position, lining up in that stance and sometimes getting blown off the ball.
Oh, I'm sure a few people could have predicted his develoment. His agent, his trainer, the guy who gets him 'roids.
wrong draft year (I gave several players drafted the year before SM and Ware, not in the same draft).
95: remember guys, Merriman has asthma, so he has a valid medical reason for...
Anyone who has Karney should get triple points.
I'm kicking ass because I started John Mellencamp in the flex position. I get one point per ad. Let's see. Yeah, 84 points so far from him.
Saints DTs and LBs are pretty bad. Dallas could just keep running the ball up the middle until New Orleans stops it, which could be never.
93: if it is a good beer it does not need a commercial.
You do not see any commercials for porsche or ferrari either.
I though the danger of Cinderellas was turning into a pumpkin, not "losing their shoe".
Through the wonder of Tivo's instant pause, I haven't heard what country this is all evening. That alone is worth the subscription price, IMHO.
i thought it was the saints player who had asthma or is that the joke?
yikees glenn: comparing romo with favre ...
cardinal sin in both eras - 90s as well as now
100: or for diamonds
(well, except for the season from thanksgiving to valentines day)
Now this is a story, all about how my life got flipped, turned upside down...
I need to stop looking at GameCenter. NBC is running at least 20 seconds behind.
Merriman ran a 4.68 40, according to Scout.com. No number listed for Ware. That's not bad for a DE/OLB, surely? Although he was quoted beforehand as saying he was aiming for a 4.5.
102: shut up.
At least pretend to take pity on the rest of us.
when i saw the flag, i thought it was going to yet another roughing the passer
On the 2005 draft, and all the people picked ahead of Ware and Merriman: I don't think anyone should have been picked ahead of those two, in retrospect. But I thought Edwards would be a great player when he was drafted, and I'm standing by that. He's played with Charlie Frye for two years and he's still made some good plays.
Knowing what I know now, here are the 2005 picks I'd most want on my team.
1. Shawn Merriman
2. DeMarcus Ware
3. Braylon Edwards
4. Lofa Tatupu
5. Pacman Jones
6. Jason Campbell
7. Derrick Johnson
8. Frank Gore
9. Alex Barron
10. Ronnie Brown
I love the dislocated finger commercial.
I'd be surprised if anyone did. Even an all-Saints kind of person wouldn't start Karney on his fantasy team. He very rarely gets the ball.
I don't see Edwards or Campells as top ten redraft picks.
RE: 109 Now if I could only get Tivo to mute automatically every time Theismann's voice came on, I would marry it.
113: Is there ANY fullback in this year's NFL that you would start on your fantasy team?
BTW, for this game alone, I nominate Mike Karney for the FFHOF.
116: I second the nomination.
I would also like to nominate Piner (the Vikings guy) for the FFHOF.
ROFL Alec Baldwin just called Eli Manning a girl.
I think Brees is the only short QB starting who isn't a running threat. Unless you count Jeff Garcia, who isn't quite the scrambler he used to be (although he still moves around a lot).
I can do you one better: CET
If the QB projection system is right about Campbell (and the early evidence certainly hasn't shown that it isn't) then he might even be worth taking ahead of Merriman, and is certainly a top-5 redraft pick.
And it continues...
I don't know why Dallas is passing so much. I'd pound it.
RE: 116 I wouldn't come close to starting any FB. Alstott leads the way with 2 TDs. If Greg Jones were healthy, maybe...
What did the projection system say about Campell again?
88: Austin Powers also fears Mike Karney's teammate, John Carney. Between Karney and Carney, who has smaller hands, and who smells more like cabbage?
123: Alstott LED the way. The Karnage will pass him.
124 - It liked him a lot. Like, Carson Palmer levels, I think. High completion percentage, loads of starts. Though he did come with a "low attempts" caveat, because Auburn were such a strong running team with Brown and Williams while he was there.
114: Santana Moss didn't look like a mid-first round talent after a year and a half either. He had about 200 yards receiving at that point. It usually takes receivers a while, especially if they're saddled with a terrible quarterback. Looking back on a draft that's less than two years old, it's rare to find productive receivers, but many of them will be productive someday. My opinion is that Edwards will be, and in a very big way.
As for Campbell, I think he'll shape out to be the best of the 2005 quarterback class, and considering how important quarterbacks are, I think it's OK to move him up a little bit.
122: Sid, have you seen the Saints' secondary, though?
Why did Bush even field that?
ridiculously stupid decision by Bush. How the hell do you field that punt?
Bad move reggie. That was likely a touchback...
reggie, reggie let it go into the end zone. don't run backwards inside your own five.
how did they miss the face-mask call?
This is the Cowboys, not SMU, Reggie.
#125 - Regardless of his hand size/odor, he's still a kicker.
Bodies in the way of all the nearby officials, presumably.
Julius Jones has huge holes every other run. As a Panther fan I didn't know offensive linemen were allowed to block on running plays. I wonder if Dan Henning is watching this strategy.
Consolation for Deuce Fantasy owners - he gets all the carries inside the NO 20...
Free Marques Colston!
"I think Brees is the only short QB starting who isnâ€™t a running threat."
Rex Grossman also is a short QB who is not a running threat. Although he may not be a starting QB much longer.
Do you know what this is?
Hint: it's our country
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE!
Seriously, can we organize a mob and proceed to lynch Mellencamp?
BTW, I'm somewhat happy about how the Saints are sustaining drives and are limiting the Cowboys.
Rex Grossman is not a threat of any kind, except to the Bears.
Well, I would've started Alstott back in the Dunn/Alstott days. He was worthwhile. Now? I don't know of any FBs who get enough red zone touches to warrant it.
138 - As a Texans fan, I can assure you that they are being allowed to get away with it only through farcically slack officiating. Blocking is still illegal on all plays, not just runs, no?
RE 141, considering that he's also not currently a passing threat, this poses a problem for Chicago.
146: I generally don't advocate lynchings, but...
I know they've been pretty bad, but I'm the kind of guy who will pound a team with weaknesses up the middle until they show they can stop you consistently. Then mix in play-action and other plays.
151: Rex is a passing threat (to the Bears).
They can't touch Bush...
This would be a huge accomplishment for the Saints; holding Dallas to 7 points in the first half.
They break out the MC Hammer for Reggie Bush...
Whew. We made it through a commercial break without being Mellencamped.
You know, I am regarding all other commercials favorably in gratitutde that they aren't Mellencamp.
i am watching the game on ESPN India and hence can someone let me know what the deal is with mallencamp?
bush with a decent catch and run, but he's no maurice jones-drew.
uh-oh. Colston is down.
wow, NBC took an extra 20 seconds to go to commercials there. They missed a great oppurtunity to torture us with more Mellencamp.
Good point. I suppose that with Grossman being so awful, he slipped my mind. He's hardly been starting-caliber.
I think that Mellencamp song would suit a lot of other commercials too. What about This is our Country Subway ads, Insurance ads, television promos, service announcements. It could be like a theme for all football game commercials.
I was concerned about some of my fellow Who Dats who have been hyping the Saints defense after the Atlanta and San Francisco games. However, this performance is currently giving me this strange, seldom felt feeling as a Saints fan: Hope.
Of course, having Colston go down reminds me that, yes, these are the New Orleans Saints.
Drew-Jones, Addai, Bush... there were a few good RBs in the 2006 draft after all.
Yes, Devery had the OPI, but at least he caught it.
I thought it was a catch and a fumble.
NIIIIIICE. Great heads up play by Drew.
I say catch!
But with the way officials tend to declare incompletes when the defense recovers..
Or I spoke too soon.
RE: 160 John "formerly Cougar" Mellencamp is a pop singer. He has a song in a Chevy ad that NBC plays incessantly, and has been playing obsessively for the entire season so far.
164: don't give them any ideas.
166 - You forgot III.
Of course, none of them can touch Mike Karney . . .
it will be upheld, which is great for the saints as they didn't waste that down. and the clock stopped.
Not a catch, but where was the PI on the play just before that? I didn't see anything.
oh, unsporstmanlike on Parcells?
That was a pet peeve of mine. I know it's for his grandmother or whatever, but I don't think they should allow guys to add extra last names. Sorry, but he's Maurice Drew to me, and London Fletcher is London Fletcher to me.
Wow. Thats pretty radical.
Parcells should have just called timeout.
thats the second cover-your-eyes bad referee call
So, on the completion-penalty exchange, they lose five yards, but get the first down, *and save 20 seconds*. Not bad.
What happened to the Dallas D?
Jamal Jones? Nonsense. It was Karney in disguise.
It helps my team, but I think that's a silly rule. I guess I understand it, but still.
And as I type this, TOUCHDOWN!!!
Jamal Jones. Yes, a who dat WR. He of the flowing dreds.
This is gonna be a terrific press conference with Parcells after the game.
Drew Brees has 28 attempts at halftime.
Are the Saints the NFL's first "Madden" team in terms of roster and gameplay?
So we get Karney and Jones scoring today.
Ladies and Gentlemen, meet your fantasy football killers, the New Orleans Saints.
There's a reason we say, "Who Dat!"
True. Then there DeAngelo Williams and Laurence Maroney that have at least shown some promise in limited action.
Madden thinks that the 'boys need to get Owens involved.
Gee, with 30 seconds remaining, I was going to suggest that the Cowboys just take a dump on the field.
Thank you John Madden.
I predict Michael Lewis will be the next Saints special teamer to catch a pass in this game.
That should be, "catch a TD pass."
So I have Colston on my FF team and he has yet to score...I hate Jamal Jones.
I agree the rule is excessive, but I see the point of not letting coaches abuse the challenge flag. After all, what happens if Parcells throwing the challenge flag would've been what delayed the play long enough for a booth review? That certainly wouldn't be fair to the Saints. So long as the rule was well-publicized with coaches, I think it's a fair one, although I don't think it should be 15 yards and a first down (maybe 10 yards, no automatic first down???).
191: A Beer Man TD would be sweet.
New Orleans offense is for real. Dew Brees makes this team come alive. Poor Saints fans. This is a vision of what they could have had these past five years if they had just substituted a quarterback for whatever Aaron Brooks was playing.
theres a J owens (a TE!) on the stats sheet but no TO sighting on the stat sheet!
Talk about your late flag...
196: Don't say that name in my presence.
That's taunting?! The pussification of the NFL continues.
What the hell was Romo thinking trying to take off running there? Way to waste a time out.
Reminding Saints fans of Aaron Brooks should be considered taunting.
Oh, wait, did I type that out loud?
Can't the refs ignore a red flag thrown after the two minute warning? They don't have to stop the game to ignore a red flag.
"I know itâ€™s for his grandmother or whatever, but I donâ€™t think they should allow guys to add extra last names. Sorry, but heâ€™s Maurice Drew to me, and London Fletcher is London Fletcher to me."
It's actually for Jones-Drew's grandfather, and I'm pretty sure that's his legal name and has been for a while (perhaps since birth). He started using "Jones-Drew" rather than "Drew" on his uniform last year at UCLA, sometime toward the end of the season.
Getting Grammatica for Vanderjerk was good, no?
Looking at Gametracker, they say that the humidity is 93%. Obviously, the Saints are playing well because they feel at home.
Ah Grammatica, good to see you again old friend.
BP's love affair with kickers continue ...
"Identity" looks stupid.
205 - yes, still.
Missing a field goal in the first half when you're down big isn't as bad as missing one with the game on the line in the closing seconds.
You are probably right, in which case it isn't nearly as serious an offense. However, I still think coaches shouldn't be throwing the red flags when they aren't supposed to (and given the state of NFL refereeing, I can see it being a problem when some dumb official stops the game when he wasn't supposed to, allowing time for a booth review that shouldn't have happened)
I don't know what NBC was doing after the penalty on Parcells. It was clearly a first dow,, but the screen said 3rd & 20 (after the penalty), and then Michaels said it was 3rd & 5. Dunno what they're doing.
I think a lot of fantasy buffs are thinking "WHO DAT?" tonight, when looking at the scoring breakdown.
Sucks for me. I'm in the playoffs and have Devery Henderson and Deuce McAllister. But I'll be happy if the Saints win at all.
I'm still trying to figure out the point in time where our society turned into a bunch of "everybody wins" and "no trash talking allowed" wussbags.
I'm sorry, but what Mike Mckenzie just did should not draw a flag.
Did anyone else see the paranoid glances Parcells threw at Payton toward the end of the half? Seemed a bit rattled to me.
dammit! I swear I thought of that first, but I was glued to the TV and couldn't escape to post it.
Great minds think alike. :)
Martin Grammatica is 90% less likely to give Parcell's heartburn through ego and low production/cost.
213: youth soccer leagues.
When they made a bloodless lawyer intern football commissioner. They really need to bring in someone from the outside to represent the fans as well as the owners.
Has Romo looked as bad as his stats?
212: 3d and 5 was the correct call. There was an offensive PI on first down so it was 2nd and 20, and then on 2nd and 20 the catch drop and official review happened.
My god, that Toyota commercial was every bit as insufferagle as Mellancamp's. Why do car companies hate football fans?
But wasn't the penalty 15 yards and an automatic first down? It seemed confusing, as they changed their minds, but I thought this is what Michaels finally claimed.
221: Support mass transit. That's the only solution.
It was not the correct call. The call on Parcells was an automatic first down.
Come to think of it, are there any 15-yard penalties that don't include an automatic first down? (Obviously, I'm excluding 15 yard penalties against the offense)
haha, I don't own a car. I'm sticking it to the car manufacturers! (at least I like to think I am)
I'm pleased that Dallas didn't get any points because of that stupid 15 yard taunting penalty.
This is our mass transit system.
maybe you guys are right ... I forgot about the automatic first down...
Tina Fey is kinda hot. Bill Parcells isn't.
Al Michaels is furious.
Free Al Michaels! Nice rant.
I agree with Al Michaels about the stupid pyrotechnics.
Colston has cramps, will return
It's great to hear Michaels get pissed off.
And to hear the Ramones in the background.
Strong commentary by Michaels re: smoke during halftime shows. I completely agree.
Now, if we could only do something about stupid "entertainment" during halftime of the Super Bowl, Thanksgiving Day games, Orange Bowl, etc.
Is Barber hurt?
Must be some way we can have Jessica Simpson, not Janet Jackson, flash us her tits?
Nice stand after giving up the big play.
Okay just take that Nissan Titan ad, and put in the "our country" ad in the part they fast forward to.
That is what advertisers think...
Speak for yourself; Janet can flash me anything she wants. And given her well-documented attraction to hideous men, I have a chance with her. There's no way in hell I'm as ugly as Jermaine Dupree. She'd be trading up.
I think the NFL should hire the Ramones for Halftime shows.
Mr. Burns: Ah, these young musicians shall sooth my jagged nerves.
Mr. Smithers: Here is a young group that i'm sure is going to go far......ladies and gentlemen, the Ramones!
Joey Ramone: We'd just like to say that this gig sucks.
Johnny Ramone: YEAH, UP YOURS SPRINGFIELD!
Mr. Burns: Have the Rolling Stones killed.
Mr. Smithers: But sir, that wasn't...
Mr. Burns: DO AS I SAY!
239: Or Nissan could fast-forward through the This is Our Country commercial to get to the Nissan commercial. That would be awesome.
Holy Reggie Bush, Batman!
I'm buying a Karney jersey.
Okay, that was why he was drafted #2.
Reggie looks like Jonny Rogers or Irving Fryar at Nebraska.
This just in: Reggie's adjusted to the league.
Flashes of his USC days on that play!
Reggie may suck between the tackles, but he really is dynamite in the open field.
Reggie Bush has looked GREAT the last two weeks (aside from that moronic decision on the punt return). I wonder what took him so long.
Clearly Michaels is just swigging straight from the bottle at this point.
Al Michaels is crazy tonight.
Bush with a sick TD!
That's the first time in a while Michaels has made a comment where he's actually taken any stance on something. Way to take a stand, Al!
Deal. You get Janet, I get Jessica. After all, after this game Romo won't be such a hot commodity anymore...
Can I get a Bush/Karney jersey?
I think that Reggie hit the rookie wall in reverse, or something like that.
I wonder how Texans fans feel after seeing that play, a few hours after seeing Vince Young's overtime TD run beat them. I guess they'll have a lot of years to think about that.
Has he lost his mind? Can he see or is he blind?
Oh, sorry, this is the FOMB, not a Nissan ad.
The one part of the Saints I don't like in this game is the special teams? How many return yards do the Cowboys have so far? It seems like a lot.
Right. Only, not the same kind of rookie reverse as when I backed my mom's car into my dad's truck. A good kind.
260: Yes, the good kind.
257: Dude, that's just wrong. Don't taunt like that.
Talk about your luck throws...
What do you do on 4th down? knock it down!
No matter how good they play, they're still the Aints.
Romo just looks terrible tonight.
This is his 7th game, no? I wonder what the performance for QBs looks like after their first 7 games. You know, after the Defensive coordinators get tape on them.
Nevermind, Dallas just scored.
The Football Gods smile upon the Cowboys.
Nice play by Fred Thomas. Knock it down!
Is McDonalds even attempting to sell food to guys anymore? Have they just surrendered that segment of the fast-food market to Hardees?
I was going to say that it was luck, but it happened against Fred Thomas...
I saw the highlights of Vinces TD run and it sounded like an extremely loud cheer, considering the Texans just lost the freakin' game.
I found that odd, mainly because you'd assume people in Houston wouldn't be all that crazy about the Titans (seeing as how they were the former Oilers and left).
Are TExans fans that bitter? Already? Being a Pittsburgh Pirates fan I understand the frustration of rooting for a hopeless franchise that makes bad moves like Aunt Jemima makes syrup (I don't even know what that means)......but hell, i'd never cheer for an Aramis Ramirez homerun against the Pirates just because we gave him away and should still have him.
Crazy. Get over it Houston. No sense in crying over broken eggs.
McDonalds sells food? Is that what they're trying to pass that stuff off as?
This game is making Jaws sound even more prescient than normal ... at least in his analysis of Romo's performance the past few weeks.
Tony Romo has the gunslinger mentality, and heâ€™s starting to get loose with the football. When you have nothing but success â€” even when you do things wrong â€” you get bad habits. Not to alarm anyone, but the name â€œRex Grossmanâ€? came up. Romo was missing open guys, and making near-impossible throws into tight coverage, but it didnâ€™t hurt him as much as it should have because the Giantsâ€™ mistakes outweighed Romoâ€™s mistakes. They think heâ€™s a good player, but Jaws and Cosell believe that at some point soon, Romo will have a very bad game.
Mike Karney time!
I think it was probably more about cheering a former Texas player than rooting against your team or wishing for what might have been, although I could be wrong. Having lived in Texas, I can tell you that UT is pretty huge down there.
Roy Williams burnt for a deep pass...
have we heard that before?
Feh, that is, if Hardees was out there is force live McD's. Where I live in MA, and where I go to college in Maine, there's only Mickey D's, Burger King, and Wendy's. Sometimes Taco Bell. Never Hardee's.
I'll live, but I'm bitter.
Nice play by Henderon.
Seriously, I have to consider the Saints the favorites in the NFC to go to the superbowl at this point.
Does Roy Williams get royalties whenever anyone else in the league horse collars someone?
NOOOO talk about robbing my fantasy points...
The NFC play-offs will certainly be unpredictable, but I'm not going to pick against an NFC team with a guy like Brees at QB. Especially if Reggie Bush's figured out how to play with the big kids.
I'm really not prepared for that. OK, mentally, I am. Surprisingly, I don't think that my liver is.
C'mon, that's another Karney TD. With his deceptive speed and throwback toughness, he's rapidly becoming a fan favorite.
HenderSon, not Henderon, is what I meant to type. This keyboard's "s" key is really annoying.
271: I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but Vince Young is from Houston...
If the Saints defense can play at an average level, I think they can take anyone in the NFC. They're clobbering the Cowboys on the road. Sure, going to Chicago could be scary, but the Bears can't really scorch the Saints D.
I'm really impressed with their offense. They know they can't run well, so they don't bother with "establishing the run" and instead take advantage of Brees at QB and his ability to find anyone that's open.
Mike Karney: 3 touchdowns!!!
Karney with the hat trick.
257 - I'm a Texans fan, and as of yet I have no regrets about drafting Williams. Sure, he has yet to tear the league up, but few first year ends do, especially ones who come out as young and raw as he did. His physical potential is obscene, and he's showed plenty of development over the course of the season. Young looks like a good player, but given the continued awfulness of the Houston offensive line (especially since Wiegert and Flanagan went down), I've been very happy with Carr's play this season. Bush has looked outstanding as a receiver, but he's yet to do anything taking hand-offs. If Williams becomes a truly elite DE, he will have been the right pick almost regardless of what Bush and Young do.
Do not doubt the might of Karney!
I thought that the "Flex Games" were the games officiated by Ed Hoculi.
sigh... Karnay with 3 tds, Pinner with 3... never been so robbed in my life...
That's three TDs for Karney! And with the Saints up 35-17, all is right in the world again.
#44 in his 44th career game gets 3 tds. he had never had a td before
He wins the Mike Alstott Award for most goaline touchdown steals by a white FB.
Can we get Karney into the fantasy football hall of fame as a last-minute write-in?
Where is Mike Karney from, and when is his hometown having a parade in his honor?
what the hell are the Saints doing? onside kick?
Just when it couldn't get worse for Dallas...
Now that was a bizarre play call. Seriously, why risk it?!?
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