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Week 17 Game Discussion Thread

This thread is for discussion of action on the field before, during, and after Week 17 of the 2006 NFL season. You can talk about who you think will win or lose before the games start and last-minute news on Sunday morning. Then during the games, discuss strange plays, great performances, and stupid announcers (of which there are plenty). After the day is done, we'll discuss the results of the week Sunday night and Monday before our weekly commentary articles appear.

Just one thread for all the games this week.

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1
by PatsFan (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 6:30am

Globe reports that Cassel took all the snaps at Wednesday's practive.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 5:48pm

I think the Colts and Patriots each want whatever seed gets to play the Jets first round.

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 6:30pm

Go Big Blue?

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by Starshatterer (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 7:27pm

Assuming the Jets beat the Raiders (likely) and the Broncos beat the 49ers (also likely, if somewhat less so by DVOA), then the Broncos are the fifth seed and the Jets are sixth.

The Jets and Patriots have early starts; the Broncos and Colts, 4.15 EST. If the Colts win, they play the sixth seed, but they won't know with complete certainty if it's the Jets, since the Jets jump to fifth if Denver loses.

Personally, I think the Colts aren't exactly scared of the Broncos, either. I expect both the Patriots and Colts to be more concerned about keeping starters healthy, than seeding.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 9:22pm

"Go Big Blue?"

How about "Go away, Tiki Barber." Hopefully, tonight will be his last game (not just his last regular season game).

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 9:51pm

Boy, I bet it is sure going to tick you off when he becomes the next Matt Lauer, eh?

Tiki is a good player, and while I have not liked how his 'farewell' has played out either, there are many more deserving of scorn on my G-men than him.

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by Athelas (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 9:54pm

Who's Matt Lauer?
(Really, I just hope we don't have to hear him on football telecasts.)

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by andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:10pm

Wow, another sack that he let go!

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:14pm

Hey, Thrash caught something. I'm shocked.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:17pm

Actually, I don't care if he becomes the next Matt Lauer, because I never watch the Today show or any of its competitors. As for those deserving of scorn on your G-men, I'm sure you're right. However, as a non-Giants fan, I don't find any of the other G-men as annoying as Sir Tiki. (Well, maybe Shockey, but in a different way.)

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:22pm

Florio, is that you?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:24pm

Randel-El can still throw.

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:26pm

Boy my Gmen have really.... started to play poorly.

We need to revamp our secondary and get a few offensive linemen. That's a tall order for one offseason.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:26pm

Seeing the replay, that TD is on Sam Madison. If he just knocks it down no problem. Instead, he tries to make the INT, and doesn't.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:27pm

Let's see -- Will Demps has 4 tackles on running plays so far (most from behind, judging by the yardage numbers), and just bit on the Randle El pass deep to Moss for the TD, where a safety should have been.

I know the Giants didn't spend as much on him as the 'Skins did on Archuleta, but, boy, did thsoe two teams by the same pig in the same poke, or what?

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:27pm

What a pitiful display of Football by the Giants so far. Its like the secondary refused to do anything to break up that crappy pass by Randel El.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:28pm

Hello? Is this thing on? This thread is as dead as a doorknob. I guess the NFL Network's lack of penetration has something to do with it.

Gumbel just said something idiotic. After Collinsworth said there was a good "no call" on what looked like pass interference by Sam Madison on Randle-El, Gumbel said "You would. You were a receiver." But as a receiver, Collinsworth obviously should be more likely to say PI should have been called.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:30pm

re: 4
If the Colts win and the Ravens lose, then they would have the 2 seed, which is pretty damn important. Can you imagine if they rest their starters, lose, and the Ravens lose too?

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by Alex DL (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:36pm

Is anyone else in the boston/ brookline area with RCN and the NFL network and not able to watch the game tonight?

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:37pm

I was gonna rip Carter for dropping that, but it was pretty clear Jimoh was holding down his left arm while the ball was in the air. Then again, Carter's weakness is his strength, toughness, etc. He could have fought through it.

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:39pm

Boy, G-men sure are tearing it up on offense tonight so far. 4 drop backs = 3 incompletes, 1 sack.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:47pm

Why throw? The 'Skins seem to be treating tackling Tiki Barber as optional.

Collinsworth doesn't sound enamoured with young Elisha, does he?

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:50pm

Yeah, I suppose if the Redskins game plan includes keeping Tiki clean for his last game, it might be a long night.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:51pm

Think Moss heard footsteps?

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:51pm

Gumbel sucks.

I am not sure what Collinsworth is seeing, but it is not what I am. Eli looks worse than ever. The results have not been as bad as at other times, but even his completions have been misthrown and his mechanics look worse than I have ever seen them look.

I absolutely guarantee you, if Parcells was coaching this team, you would see Lorenzen, if at least for a series or two. Heck, in 1990 when we won the Super Bowl, he pulled Simms for Hoss in a game where Simms wasn't playing badly and we were trailing only by a few.

And Hoss won the game for us.

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by Crus, UK (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:55pm

Another special moment from the Gumbel speak-first-think-later school has the Giants starting their next drive in the shadow of their own endzone. Is it possible to be in the shadow of a flat piece of ground, without being under it? Is he saying the Giants are dead?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:56pm

Campbell has all kinds of time whenever he drops back. I know the 'Skins keep extra blockers in, but is the Giants pass rush bad or is the 'Skins O-line better than I've been hearing?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 10:59pm

"we can't state it enough, this could be Tiki Barber's last game"

Yes. You can. Shut up.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:01pm

I guess no PI today.

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by JasonK (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:02pm

The refs are letting everything go in the secondary tonight. I've seen a bunch of PIs go uncalled.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:06pm

#28

You better save some of that vitriol for the Bears-Packers game tomorrow. I'm sure we'll all know the taste of Farve's taint by the time that one is over.

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by BadgerT1000 (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:06pm

I will state this once very clearly and then leave others to enjoy the game.

I am rooting for the Giants.

I want this "Packer playoff" drivel to stop in Packerland. Green Bay is not a playoff caliber team, they would most likely be crushed in a postseason game, and it's best for everyone in Wisconsin if they have the offseason to think about "what if" as opposed to "Geez that was bad".

Enjoy the game.

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:07pm

I much prefer Collinsworth as a game announcer than a studio/halftime guy. Most of his comments have had value, and his arrogance is less evident.

And Go Big Blue!

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:08pm

Yes, definitely a "tackling Tiki is optional night".

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:15pm

It's 2:15am in the UK, and I have to watch Mark Brunell? It's mighty close to bed-time.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:17pm

J-Load runs a QB sneak!! Fantastic.

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by JasonK (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:18pm

Yay! A Pillsbury Throwboy sighting!!!

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:19pm

Is Elisha too much of a Nancy-Boy to do the QB sneak?

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:21pm

Awwwwriggggghhhhht!

Now we just need to have him somehow lead us to the Super Bowl a la Hoss, and then he can go on a diet and make a killing as the new Jared for Subway.

Eat fresh.

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by Andrew (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:21pm

Tiki Barber = 145 yards.

Rest of Giants = 56 yards.

Tell me how that works next year.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:24pm

#40

Badly. Very badly.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:24pm

That's right, Chris. Your flat ass cost you millions.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:27pm

We get no PI all half, and the it's called both ways on a single play.

And then, when the Skins decide to double Burress, and the pass is incomplete, Jimoh draws a taunting penalty. Outstanding.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:27pm

Wow, a double PI call against WR and DB. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:40pm

Deion had the craziest grin on his face at the end of that segment. What was that about?

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:51pm

So who's getting psyched for Eagles-Giants 3?
Seeing as how the Giants are already familiar with the Garcia-led Eagles, it might be an opportunity for Garcia to be taken down a peg.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:57pm

Tim Carter could play soccer. Terrific dive.

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:58pm

They should give out accolades for the best dive of the week (like Jacked Up). Should be presented by Cris Carter.

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sat, 12/30/2006 - 11:59pm

Clearly Tim Carter has been practicing with the Italian soccer team.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:04am

KEVIN GILBRIDE IS A PLAY-CALLING GOD.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:07am

Jason Campbell does his best Ron Mexico impression.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:08am

Washington MUST go for this. What do you have to lose?

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by adwred (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:21am

I like Gumbel, but why does he always say the teams are giving "it up on downs" when they are about to punt? C'mon.

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by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:24am

I still don't get why he drops the "w" from Antwaan Randle El.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:27am

Yes, magic. We got it. Let's find a new theme, shall we?

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:27am

I sense a "microcosm" mention coming up from the announcers.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:28am

It's officially Squeaky Bum Time in New York.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:40am

Hey, this guy Tiki is pretty good.

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by Paul (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:40am

Redskins are really trying to make Barber's last regular season game a truly memorable one.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:40am

Apparently Tiki is going to get back every TD Jacobs has vulured in one night.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:40am

Damn that was sweet.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:44am

You'd think it was crisis over for the NYG, but did anyone else think that Gumbel & Collinsworth thought they were on commercial when that whole "did Saban do something weird" segment played?

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:52am

11 men bite on the play-fake. Wow. Game on again, if Washington can make a stop.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:53am

W-I-D-E open. Skins down by six.

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by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:57am

He just did it again. The Redskins take over on downs?

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by Crus, UK (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:57am

Can somebody PLEASE tell Mr Gumbel what "turn it over on downs" means? He's had an entire season to learn!

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:57am

My dog wants to explain what a turnover on downs is to Gumbel

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by Josh (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:59am

Yes, Gumbell does have his quirks, but what other announcing crew is better (Excluding the MNF week 1 B team)?

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:59am

I really didn't like the 5 WR set on second down. The Skins were getting gashed by Tiki- leave him in for a play action to throw. The Skins can defend Eli if they know the pass is coming.

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by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:59am

Maybe he's used to CFL rules.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:00am

And all of a sudden, Campbell remembers he's a first-year starter. C'mon, I need the Packers in the playoffs. Dawkins needs to pad those interception stats if he's going to make the HOF.

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by Signor Sack (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:01am

Nice defend there.

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by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:02am

Horrible playcalling by Al Saunders and the fingertips of Gibril Wilson save the Giants.

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by Tom Kelso (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:03am

I can only go by the stats line on NFL.com -- is Eli really THAT putrid tonight?

12/26 for 101 -- that's wretched by any standard.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:07am

I'll say it - all Eli does is win.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:07am

Ah yes, the Miracle at the Meadowlands. What would this be: Felicity at FedEx? Redemption at RFK works better.

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by david mazzotta (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:11am

Well, that certainly renders a good chunk of Sunday irrelevant.

After burning up the field, Campbell really gakked that last drive.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:15am

I'm sure NBC loves this. Since Green Bay almost certainly will be eliminated tomorrow prior to kickoff against the Bears, the Sunday Night game will be meaningless for both teams. And it's no better for the viewers, since now there will be more talk about Brett Favre and comparisons of Rex Grossman to Favre.

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by SJM (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:25am

Re: 74

When Eli's DPAR is calculated to account for Washington's terrible pass defense (dead last in passing DVOA), that will end up being one of the worst performances of the week, if not the entire season.

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by Moridin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:36am

Oh I dunno, I think Rex Grossman and Brad Johnson will still own 1, 2, & 3 worst performances this season. I don't think Eli managed to throw 3+ ints in this game, unless I was paying even less attention than I thought.

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by Adam B. (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:43am

Ack! As an Eagles fan, do I want a home game against NYG, or a trip to SEA followed by CHI instead of NO?

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by Gerry (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:47am

You want the home game against the Giants.

Unless something really unforeseen occurs.

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by NF (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:58am

81 (wards against evil #):

I'd rather take the Eagles offense against the Saints defense than the Bears defense. Double vengeance for week 2!

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by Shane S. (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 1:59am

Honestly, though, for those of you who think the Packers would be a mediocre playoff team...are the Giants that much better?

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by LMSx (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:14am

Now that this game is settled, what's the possibility of Green Bay taking the #6 based on Strength of Victory?

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by JQM (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:15am

It's a little overboard to claim it was one of the worst qb performances of the season. No turnovers and a number of 3rd down conversions. I'm betting DVOA comes out close to zero before defensive adjustments.

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by Marko (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:27am

85: The odds of this happening are astronomical. Besides beating the Bears in Chicago, Green Bay would need 8 other games to fall a certain way. Each of the 8 games requires an upset. Among the results Green Bay needs are a Detroit win in Dallas, an Arizona win in San Diego, a San Francisco win in Denver, and a Miami win in Indianapolis. Click on my name for more details.

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by Patrick Bateman (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:30am

I almost had a heart attack when Gumbel said the Giants "turn it over on downs" deep in theior own territory. WTF? That's akin to Joe Buck calling strike two a strikeout! This is an *elementary* facet of the game, and something he repeatedly got wrong tonight. They should add him to the Monday Night Misery Booth, and just complete the circle of awfulness.

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by jonnyblazin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:48am

OK, Gumbel doesn't quite get the terminology. But remember that article on FO suggesting teams always go for it on 4th down? It suggested that a punt should be considered as a turnover, just one that changes the field position more so than a fumble or INT. Punting should be considered a turnover, and since its 4th down when most teams punt, the whole 'turnover on downs' makes sense to a degree.

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by NF (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:48am

I predicted earlier today that the Giants lose this game unless Tiki Barber plays the game of his life.

You've had quite a career Mr. Barber.

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by Dave (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:01am

I'm in Beijing--anyone know what my options are for seeing this weekend's hot, hot NFL action on the TV?

Google isn't helping me out much here.

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by Devin McCullen (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:23am

Geez, they finally used Lorenzen and I missed it. (After last week, I officially stopped caring about the Giants this season.)

I can just see Tiki running for the touchdowns thinking "Ha, ha, I'm making sure these guys are still stuck with Coughlin next year when I'm gone."

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by Tighthead (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:32am

You would think the director or whoever would sort him out on the turnover on downs thing.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:48am

RE: 68

Every single crew except the MNF crew.

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by Mitchell Plitnick (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:25am

One game certainly proves nothing, but tonight's game is still a data point for my notion that the Giants are betterf off without Jeremy Shockey. I grant that I not unbiased in this. I have never disliked a player on my favorite team in any sport nearly as much as I do Shockey.

Still, I believe it to be true. Because of the emphasis the Giants have put on him, he usually ranks high in DPAR and in the raw stats, but his DVOA is routinely low. In 2002, he was ranked 6th in DPAR, but 20th in DVOA. In 03 he was 16th in DPAR and 21st in DVOA. 04--8th in DPAR and 19th in DVOA. 05--8 in DPAR and 18 in DVOA and in 06 12 in DPAR and 22 in DVOA. That tells me its the emphasis the Giants put on him, not his performance, that have gained him his notoriety.

That doesn't make him a candidate for addition by subtraction by itself...but when you throw in the whining, the penalties, the poor blocking and the constant stream of stupid plays he makes, I do believe that the Giants are a better offense without him.

That the Giants tonight scored the most points on offense that they have all year (of the 36 they scored against Dallas, 9 were scored by the defense), and that many of Barber's runs included big blocks from Visanthe Schiancoe,and that the G-Men had fewer penalties than usual does not prove my point about their being better without Shockey. But it is a data point that sure don't hurt it.

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by Thok (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:08am

If you're worrying about GB's playoff chances, you might as well worry about them catching NY in strength of schedule also (you know just in case they get 7 out of 8 games to go correctly).

In that situation, GB is 2 extra games back. Cancelling all common losses we're comparing the records of

For GB
St Louis (already needs to lose to Minn)
New England (versus Tenn)
Ny Jets (vers Oakland)
Buffalo (vers Baltimore)

For NY
Tenn (vers New England)
Indianopolis (probably needs to lose already versus Miami)
Jacksonville (versus KC)
Dallas (already needs to lose to Dallas)

After that it's scoring based tiebreakers, which require either GB to score 80 points on Chicago or hold them scoreless and pray for lots of teams to finish with 361 or 360 points given up on defense.

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by Thok (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:09am

Um, Dallas already needs to lose to Detroit. Sorry about that.

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by johnshade (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 11:07am

re #91:
Grab the TVUPlayer from www.tvunetworks.com. It usually carries some US Network TV channels.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 11:30am

Wilfork and Watson aren't playing again, as BB rests starters.

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by Dave (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:40pm

98: thanks for the tip. looks like they're showing 49ers/broncos, which isn't what i wanted to see, but that's a good resource.

i was hoping for some fully-appointed multiscreen 24 hour sports bar that i could show up at at 2am local time, but if i'm hoping for things i might hope for diet coke to be readily available at eateries around here.

or ice in drinks, at least.

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by Sophandros (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:35pm

So it turns out that the NFL is allowing a "double doubleheader" today, with two games on both networks where the home team is not playing.

OK, so why not do this EVERY Sunday?

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by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 2:56pm

101: Cause the NFL hates it's fans. Seriously, the reason is because the Networks don't want competition from each other on the back half of their doubleheader.

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:01pm

What I learned from Brian Baldinger:

Jon Kitna has had an excellent season.

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by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:03pm

Why the hell were they dragging santonio?

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by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:08pm

Jaguars win the toss, elect to receive. MJD gets a solid return. Then Fred Taylor between the tackles, Fred Taylor between the tackles, MJD between the tackles, punt.

When everybody "knows" you are going to run run run, isn't 1st and 10, first play of hte game, the most opportune time to run a play action? Is there a more predictable offense than Jacksonville?

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by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:11pm

Rashean Mathis just intercepted Trent Green.

Question: if Mathis has position on the ball and is going to the turf, is it Offensive Pass Interference if the receiver is draped all over him, pushing him to the turf while the DB is in the act of catching?

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by stan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:12pm

Did Vince YOung really try to throw to Vrabel? Why no grounding call? The only guy in blue near Vrabel was the tackle!

Now Young throws a grenade!

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by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:17pm

I'm glad the pats dont need this game.

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by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:19pm

I think Jaguars' Special Teams coach Pete Rodriguez just got his ass fired. They gave returns for TDs that basically cost them two games outright (Indy, Buffalo) and just had a punt blocked for a TD. That is probably the best possible outcome KC could have after the interception. 3-and-out, block the punt for a TD. I think I'm beginning to understand what it was like to be a Ravens fan prior to the SB win.

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by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:22pm

OK. I know why we go run-run-run. David Garard: 0-4 on the day after 3 straight incomplete passes. He threw one decent pass that led his TE right into Sammy Knight who laid a pretty nasty lick on him causing a drop. 1 pass thrown away, one pass almost intercepted, one pass about 10 feet over the receiver @ the sideline. It's pretty sad, but I think the passing game in Jax has gotten worse as Garrard gets more playing time.

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by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:23pm

Garrard plays like he's used to playing on All-Pro difficulty, and somebody just changed his game to All-Madden. Only, he's played like this seemingly all season... even in his "good" games he has thrown a lot of dumb balls that were just dropped by the DBs.

112
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:30pm

Big Ben underthrows yet another deep ball and gets picked.

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by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:33pm

112- It looked to me like this one was overthrown. The receiver was a few steps behind the corner who caught it.

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by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:38pm

VY gets rid of ball from the endzone with harrison draped over him then puts RH on the ground! amazing play to avoid the safety.

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by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:39pm

113-

I think you're right. I'm just annoyed because of how much he's struggled on deep passes this year, when he's been huge on those the last two years. And it doesn't help that the offense seems to consist only of deep passes with the occasional screen.

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by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:40pm

Jags tie the game on a really well done screen that went for about 25 yards and the TD. WRs, FB and linemen all downfield blocking, really a thing of beauty. Even Garrard couldn't screw it up.

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by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:42pm

a loss today would epitomize the cowher regime to a T ... can't say i'll be glad to see him go, if in fact he does.

118
by stan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:46pm

Wow -- did anyone else see the power off tackle that the Pats used on Dillon's TD run. Damn! Looked like the kind of hole a high school team opens against its scout team holding dummies.

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:46pm

TD, Willie Parker.

120
by pr9000 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:47pm

gah! i meant "can't say i'm sad to see him go" ...

121
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:47pm

The Black Hole of Suck Formerly Known as the Raiders' Offense is in the Red Zone. LET'S GO BLACK HOLE OF SUCK! WOOO!

122
by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:47pm

I'm really enjoying listening to the announcers give Young the ROY award while he's missing open receivers and fumbling the ball. Quite entertaining.

123
by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:51pm

Hey, remember when Dallas was the best team in the NFC? Now they're losing to the Lions in a game they need to get a home playoff game. Maybe Parcells figures Seattle on the road is easier than the Giants at home.

124
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:53pm

Anyone watching Dallas? How are they getting whipped by the Lions?

125
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:53pm

WTF? A pass into the endzone intended for Matt Jones gets deflected and before its out of bounds or hits the ground, and the official is already signalling incomplete. He would have looked really dumb if Wilford had been able to corral it as he dove to the turf.

Also, Garrard is still not a good passer. He buys time by scrambling to the outside, then lobs an off-target pass 25 yards into the endzone with a ton of defenders around. Seriously, he looks more lost at QB sometimes than Matt Jones has looked at WR.

126
by ajn (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:57pm

bb tries to late substitute and then snap the ball quickly to draw a penalty against the titans. ed hochuli sees through it and warns new england.

127
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:07pm

Interestingly, I"m not sure Garrard has completed anything but screen passes from inside the pocket. Any of the passes "down the field" (and I mean 8 yards to the TE) that have been completed have come from out of the pocket.

128
by Boston Dan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:10pm

The Curly Haired Boyfriend in his column today, "The Patriots might not be able to beat the Titans today even if they tried."

Thanks for the laugh, Shank!

129
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:10pm

THIS IS OUR @@#$&^$ COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

130
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:15pm

The Cowboys are up 14-13, Romo to Crayton. Sanity has returned.

131
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:18pm

Back to Back false starts on 2nd and goal for Bengals.

132
by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:19pm

re 128: when i saw harrison make that hit on special teams a little before his injury I started thinking BB wanted to win

133
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:23pm

Guys., it is an hour into 2007 here in India. I would like to wish all in the FO world, a very happy and prosperous new year

134
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:27pm

Lions back on top. Roy Williams TD with 2 seconds left in the 1st half.

135
by rollo (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:28pm

The Jags O-line gives a clinic on how to execute a screen play. The center Meester was literally 25 yards downfield and got a block on a DB. Taylor didn't even have to make a man miss.

136
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:31pm

Query for Aaron: Why is the pass defense of NE so highly rated (over run defense) when the Pats have had multiple 3rd and long converted with a pass play when opponents have struggled to convert 3rd and short with a running play.

137
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:32pm

Titans have to go for it for them to have a shot at winning the game!

138
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:32pm

... and the football gods punished them for their meekness ...

139
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:32pm

Hmm. Cleveland-Houston looks really exciting.

140
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:33pm

Re: #133

And a Happy New Year to you, sir or madam (as the case may be). How does one celebrate the new year in India?

141
by doktarr (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:33pm

As a LJ owner in a keeper league, I'm currently keeping a morbid running tally of carries. 5 more for 400.

142
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:35pm

it is sir...

not much different than the western way ... attend a party or throw one or spend time with family (chose the last for this year!)

143
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:36pm

Happy New Year Ch V. I always enjoy seeing people from other countries on here. I don't know if I could make it if I had to stay up through the middle of the night to watch football.

144
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:37pm

Harrison suplexes Chad Johnson and gets a personal foul.

145
by Alex DL (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:38pm

Damn you pacman

146
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:38pm

James Harrison flagged for tackling Chad Johnson. Yeah, the refs love the Steelers.

147
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:38pm

143/jebmark: thanks for the wishes and same to you.

148
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:40pm

pacman - punt return TD., guess NE ST DVOA will take a hit.

149
by Sergio (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:43pm

4 more carries to go, LJ...

150
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:46pm

If the panters win, do they a chance at the last wild-card?

151
by Jimmy6 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:47pm

Romo held onto that WAY too long. Standing around in the NFL isn't a good idea.

152
by Levente from Hungary (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:50pm

Today seems to be full of defensive and ST touchdowns. Weird day.

153
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:50pm

Terrance Newman, punt return for a TD. Maybe now sanity is returning?

154
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:51pm

I'm glad the Bengals don't have a shot at getting into the playoffs. I'd hate to be facing them if this game actually mattered to them.

Oh, wait....

155
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:52pm

Ty Law with his 50th INT of his career. Congrats in order for reaching the milestone.

156
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:56pm

I hope Jack Del Rio doesn't get fired this offseason, purely because I don't think there will be anybody available who I'd want more. There is a lot of talent on this team. But the offense is absolutely terrible and the passing game is getting worse by the week.

When all you do is run up the middle straight up, run draws up the middle, play-fake-bootleg-throw-the-ball-outoof-bounds, and throw screens, eventually the screens and draws stoip working because the defense is paying attention. Case in point: the Law interception.

And "all he does is win" Garrard is sitting his butt down on the bnech. 3rd-stringer Quinn Gray is in the game.

157
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:57pm

My oh my. Quinn Gray's first pass is a completion for a first down. I'm ecstatic. Matt Jones fought off a jam, ran a good route, and caught the ball. Quinn Gray threw a hard but catchable ball right where it needed to be.

158
by Matthew Furtek (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 4:59pm

... is Mike Carey doing any of the early games? My NFL Ref Conspiracy radar says if not, he'll be the DEN-SF official. Spurious that Triplette is doing NYJ-OAK.

159
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:00pm

I'm generally all for guys getting hammered, but Roy Williams deserved a personal foul for hitting Campbell.

160
by Jeremy (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:00pm

Roy Williams gets away with a late hit.... Has anyone ever actually given him a horsecollar penalty?

161
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:00pm

Man, I wanted to see Quinn Gray in the Tennessee game. I know it's early and I'm overreacting, but maybe we wouldn't need help to get into the playoffs if Gray has been playing before today.

Quinn Gray 3/8 for 38 yards and 3 first downs, and just rushed 11 yards for a TD. Suddenly Jax is only down 11 with 9:31 in the 3rd Q.

162
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:00pm

Anthony Smith is a monster. No deep ball for the Bengals.

163
by pcs (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:00pm

Jesus, CBS announcer Gus Johnson has about the biggest mancrush on Quinn Gray this side of King-Favre.

164
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:01pm

TJ Howsyourmomma just got JACKED UP by Anthony Smith.

165
by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:01pm

re 141: Jamal Andersons record for carrys is a scary one to break after what happened to him

166
by Sergio (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:01pm

Funny. Quinn Gray leads the Jags to a TD on his first drive.

Let me be the one who says it... he just scores. A couple more of those, and he might just win...

167
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:03pm

CBS has a nice close-up while Carson Palmer utters a profanity.

168
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:05pm

The Jets go up 20-3. Looks like they can start planning for their 1st round playoff loss now.

169
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:07pm

After performing moderately well over the last 16 weeks, Gostkowski is finding a bad time to have bad games - wont make the boston public to forget 'clutch kicker', come playoffs.

170
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:10pm

There we go, another roughing the passer penalty. wonder if this was a correct call?

171
by rollo (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:10pm

Man the Chiefs offense is on fire. Great catch on a deep heave by Kennison who tips it to himself.

172
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:10pm

N. Davenport adding some nice backup for Parker.

173
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:12pm

I love Hines Ward.

174
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:13pm

Willie Colon, you are a dumbass.

175
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:13pm

What exactly did Colon do to draw a taunting penalty?

176
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:14pm

Man., three 15 yard penalties in the NE game. Who is suffering a meltdown? the refs or the pats defense?

177
by James, London (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:15pm

IT's dumb penalty day in Nashville. NE have been flagged for 2 unnecessary roughness and a taunting penalty on this drive alone.

178
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:16pm

Re:#175

I have no idea. And frankly, I don't really care. You just can't take dumb penalties like that.

179
by Jimmy6 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:17pm

Dallas looks horrible.

180
by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:17pm

And Parcells' man-boobs droop with disappointment as Kitna throws another TD.

181
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:19pm

Why is the FOX "Happy New Year" yellow?

182
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:20pm

And Ben scrambles for the first on 3rd and ten!

183
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:21pm

Quinn Gray with his second 12ish yard TD run of the day for Jacksonville! That's 2 drives, 2 touchdowns for Quinn Gray for those of you keeping score.

184
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:21pm

$%#$%$#%#$%#$

Parker gashes the Bengals but fumbles before getting in the endzone. Recovered by Bengals for a touchback.

185
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:22pm

And the Bengals false start again.

186
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:23pm

Can someone remind Willie to stop fumbling near the goal line?

187
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:24pm

%#$%#$$#^#%^$%^$^%$

Chris Henry wide open for the TD.

188
by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:25pm

Wow. How many red zone turnovers is that for the Steelers?

189
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:26pm

Man, Quinn Gray on the field looks like Byron Leftwich. I mean looks-wise, not performance wise. On the sideline he looks completely different.

Hm.... maybe there are two "#5's"... one is really Byron Leftwich, one is the real Quinn Gray, and they switch 'em out...

190
by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:26pm

The Patriots have rediscovered their deep game. And this time the personal foul goes against the Titans.

191
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:32pm

Larry Johnson: 401 carries and counting.

Lord have mercy.

192
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:33pm

I heart Hines Ward.

193
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:34pm

No fumble this time. Parker TD.

194
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:36pm

Is Drew Brees hurt? Just noticed that Martin had replaced him in the middle of a drive early in the game.

195
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:38pm

Parker now has the Steelers' single season mark for TDs.

196
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:38pm

194, I'm not sure because I don't get the game, but the Saints are automatically the #2 seed regardless of how they do today, so they might just be resting him to avoid injury.

197
by doktarr (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:40pm

I was all set to have a dynasty in my keeper league. Why, Herm, Why?

403 and counting.

198
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:41pm

James Farrior you are a fucking dumbass.

199
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:41pm

What qualifies as a clean hit on a QB?

200
by Adam Gretz (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:41pm

FUCK THE NFL

201
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:41pm

Maybe Bengals fans will quit complaining about the garbage roughing penalty against QB after that one.

202
by Sophandros (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:41pm

194: No, Brees isn't hurt. They let him run one play in the second drive and then took him out so that he could get a standing ovation. The crowd chanted, "Drew" as he came off, though they could have been calling for Deuce...

One lady had a sign that said, "Drew Brees for President". He's a bit young for that, but he could probably do a better job than Nagin or Blanco...

203
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:42pm

I hope Palmer is okay.

204
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:42pm

*against TB. I can't type, I'm a little angry.

205
by Devin McCullen (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:43pm

OK, the Jets win, which puts them in and eliminates Jacksonville. And with St. Louis up 34-7, the Giants clinch the tiebreaker over Green Bay even if the Packers win.

206
by Stereochemistry (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:43pm

Injuries for the Seahawks out of the Tampa game:

CB Kelly Herndon - Broken Ankle
CB Jimmy Williams - ankle injury (didn't catch the severity)

207
by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:44pm

All the Steelers D does is cause injury to Carson Palmer.

208
by David (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:45pm

1-10-PIT 45 (5:11) C.Palmer pass incomplete to C.Henry [J.Farrior]. CIN-C.Palmer was injured during the play.

What happened there?

209
by stan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:45pm

I know that mud gives a big advantage to the runner in the open field, but we have had more good runs in the Titans-NE game. Young just scrambles for a TD to get within 3 pts.

210
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:46pm

I don't know what a completed pass is anymore.

211
by Jimmy6 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:46pm

Steven Jackson is crazy.

212
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:47pm

405...

213
by Maltodextrin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:51pm

I've never been able to read a coach's lips more clearly than when Bill Cowher yelled "Willie! Willie! Come here!" after the taunting penalty earlier. It was hilarious.

214
by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:52pm

#208 - Palmer got the wind knocked out of him. Farrior was flagged for roughing on that play (driving the QB into the ground). I don't want to complain too much, but it looked like a clean hit to me. I'll give the officials this much - they've been consistent all year. You're just not allowed to hit the QB.

215
by Randy S. (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:53pm

This KC-JAX game is really good. Lots of big plays, and the announcer is selling every big play really well.

One thing I can't stand is when an announcer is talking about something else while someone runs into the endzone (Hello, Bryant Gumbel!). This play by play guy is going berserk for nice sideline catches, qb scrambles, everything. It's great.

206 - Yeah, the Seahawks are pretty screwed if they have to play Dallas. No corners vs TO/Terry Glenn/Crayton? Poor Seattle.

216
by doktarr (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:55pm

Wow, huge roughing penalty takes away a pick. JAX is now going to have a chanve to make it a 1-posession game.

Oh, and we're at 407 now.

217
by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 5:59pm

So what the heck happened to Minnesota's vaunted rushing D? Jackson has 142 yards already? Wow.

218
by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:01pm

I'm glad the pats don't need the titans game because I can enjoy the spectacular stuff the titans young players are doing.

219
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:01pm

Steelers tie it up, but there is still over a minute left in the game.

220
by Jimmy6 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:01pm

This Lions Cowboys game has been really exciting.

221
by Pat (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:01pm

I'm missing something. When did Dallas's defense turn to "suck"?

222
by Sergio (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:02pm

re: 216

Huge, and yet incredibly lame.

I really hate the stupid RTP penalties this year. It's ruining the game.

223
by Independent George (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:02pm

KC up by 5 with 5 minutes left, Larry Johnson with 407 carries on the season.

On the bright side for Chiefs fans, the missed 2-point conversion means no OT carries for LJ.

224
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:03pm

George, he has 409. He's one short of the record.

225
by Jeremy (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:03pm

Another Time Out needlessly killed by Cincy 'icing' Jeff Reed.... 1:03 left, only need a field goal, great offense. I think that having a second timeout has got to be worth more than the expected 'icing' value of it.

226
by Sergio (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:04pm

Oh, and LJ... just got the record.

Indeed, Lord have mercy.

227
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:04pm

And there we have it. 411 carries. An NFL record.

228
by Lou (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:04pm

another Romo fumble

229
by stan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:05pm

Vince Young has a 47.4 passer rating with one pick, two fumbles, and four sacks. He has run for 29 yards and a score. Yet the Titans are within 3 due in large part to Pacman's return.

Can a QB really play this bad and get credit for greatness?

230
by Andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:05pm

Romo loses another fumble. Cowboys are very busily backing their way into the playoffs.

231
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:06pm

Bengals take a delay of game penalty. Oops...

232
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:06pm

...and Romo recovers one of his two unassisted fumbles

233
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:06pm

OK... since when can you call a retroactive timeout?

234
by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:07pm

#221: That would be during the Saints game, I think. Since then the Dallas pass D has looked horrible, especially against good receivers who can run good deep routes.

And Detroit has good receivers who can run good deep routes. Come to think of it, pretty much any team that Dallas may face in the playoffs will have good receivers with the possible exception of Seattle without DJax.

235
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:07pm

Or not. Bengals called their final TO.

236
by Tim R (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:08pm

RE: 217
JAckson's been running well but from watching the match it looked like from the start the Rams were up for the match where as the Vikings didn't really care. Jackson's now been taken out of the game a long with the rest of the Rams starters.

237
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:08pm

That was a nice fumble right after the announcers talking about Romo being the only player who looked like he had "swagger and confidence".

238
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:10pm

No good!! Game still tied!

239
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:11pm

Kick no good! OT time in Cincy.

240
by Devin McCullen (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:11pm

Missed FG by Graham. Icing works!

241
by David (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:11pm

...and Graham misses the 39 yard FG that would win it for the Bengals, on to overtime.

242
by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:11pm

stan: it is highlight plays - the sloppy field will be part of tonights highlight package. also see michael vick

243
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:11pm

413 and counting.

This post in memory of Larry Johnson's career (2005-2006). May it rest in peace.

244
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:11pm

Pittsburgh has a poor OT record recently.

245
by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:14pm

Apparently Brady is so good he gets credit when his team scores on offense and he's on the sidelines.

246
by Rocco (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:15pm

Not only did the Steelers ice Graham, but my friend Brian and I laid the mother of all whammies on him- 2 minutes of "he'll drill it, he'll break Morten Andersen's records" over IM. Whatever works.

And they just flipped over to the Ravens game here. Dammit.

247
by Pat (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:17pm

Vince Young has a 47.4 passer rating with one pick, two fumbles, and four sacks. He has run for 29 yards and a score. Yet the Titans are within 3 due in large part to Pacman’s return.

Can a QB really play this bad and get credit for greatness?

Are you kidding? This is the NFL. After the game, the storylines will be "Young unable to mount comeback: rookie QB Vince Young tried valiantly to bring his team back, but the Titans' failures were too much for him to overcome."

248
by doktarr (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:17pm

And the new record will be 415 carries. I can't believe that the announcers acted like this was a great thing, and didn't even make mention of the possibility that this was an unsustainable workload.

249
by oljb (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:17pm

Holmes TD Pittsburgh wins!

250
by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:18pm

SANTONIO HOLMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ballgame!

251
by Kachunk (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:18pm

w00t stillers!!!

252
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:20pm

what a wierd season - Steelers played sub-par football for most of the seasons and ends with 8-8 record, the same as the bengals - whose season can only be termed as interesting.

253
by Devin McCullen (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:21pm

So, assuming Tennessee loses (they're down 10, under 5 minutes to go, just turned it over on downs), then KC gets the last wild card spot if Denver loses.

254
by Andrew (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:22pm

EAGLES ARE NFC EAST CHAMPS!!!!

255
by Sam! (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:23pm

I can't believe they didn't call the flag on KC at the end of the game. Sounded to me like a "hike" when they shifted (which was obviously planned as the whole damn offense got up and shifted). I was pretty sure you couldn't draw people offside that way.

256
by Crus, UK (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:23pm

Lions beat Cowboys!!

257
by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:25pm

i am still upset that Wimbley did not make the FO's all-rookie team: afterall he has only 11 sacks, 1 forced fumble and 1 fumble recoverd.

258
by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:25pm

As someone who had a good amount of money on Dallas Under 9.5, I am shocked and elated.

259
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:25pm

253: Oh boy! Postseason carries for LJ!

260
by Shelley (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:26pm

Okay, since evidently the CBS guys aren't too up-to-date on this stuff, the reason Dillon got the ball after completing that 3-yard run is because it put him ahead of O.J. Simpson in career rushing yardage. Good job, CBS researcher guys.

261
by MCS (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:26pm

what was the final carry count for LJ?

262
by Yaguar (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:28pm

416

263
by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:29pm

testeverde to troy brown - just like dougies dropkick

264
by Anger...rising (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:30pm

And the Broncos punt from inside San Francisco's 40 for the second time in just over four minutes. Way to grab life by the balls, Mike.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:31pm

With the TD, doesn't Testaverde rewrite his own record? I think he has TD passes in 21 straight seasons or something like that

drop kick last year, record for VT this year, is dan marino gonna be picked for Superbowl next year or what?

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by zlionsfan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:31pm

Under 9.5? Maybe you took Detroit and gave 9.5?

Phil Simms actually said something intelligent: the Lions dropped to the second spot to save money. That is certainly Ford's m.o.

I thought Williams would definitely get flagged for his hit on Campbell, especially because of the first-play penalty (although that was a blow to the head).

Kenoy Kennedy, two personal fouls (that I saw - I may have missed one). I still don't want him on my team.

So I think the question is now "Can Brady Quinn throw the deep ball?" If so, better get him fitted in silver and black ...

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by Shelley (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:33pm

Well, we all know what a warm, soft, cuddly sentimental guy Belichick is. I'd expect some tears at the post-game press conference when he's asked about Vinny's TD.

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:33pm

Man, NE Pass Defense is bad when playing prevent defense!

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by Ch V Kalyan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:35pm

And tell me why Asante Samuel was not selected for the pro-bowl?

Will AS be back next year with the Pats?

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by mikeabbot (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:36pm

and a happy new year to all the F.O. posters , see ya in the playoffs

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by calig23 (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:37pm

London Fletcher is "cagey," and Ray Lewis was like a "runaway freight train" on one play.

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by Shelley (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:43pm

Re: 271

Shouldn't that be a "runaway limo ride?" Oops, sorry, I've been reading too much DJ Gallo.

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by jebmak (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:44pm

No zlions, I needed them to win fewer than 9.5 games this year.

I needed the Lions (and Eagles last week) to win straight up.

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:44pm

The Broncos do miss Jake Plummer in the red zone. For all his faults, he did have a quick release and threw a beautiful fade.

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by Opiegrey (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:45pm

Uh. Feeley with 53 yards passing in the Atl-Phi game? Did Garcia get hurt? Anyone watching who could splain what happened? TIA

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by Electric Mayhem (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:47pm

Eagles clinched the division and they're resting starters.

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by B (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:47pm

275: Feeley is starting because with the Dallas loss, Philly clinched the NFC East and the #3 seed.

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by South Jersey Mike (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:48pm

Reid is just resting the starters. No injury to Garcia. Buckholder did appear to hurt his knee. He almost made the whole season.

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by Opiegrey (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:50pm

Thanks all. That occured to me about 30 seconds after I posted...

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:58pm

Anyone know why Fox isn't showing the yellow First-Down line in the Broncos/Niners game?

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by navin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 6:59pm

Jake the Snake in the game.

The SF defense insists on giving Denver first downs on bad defensive penalties. Also, Larry Nemmers is really tight on some penalties, I still can't believe the roughing the passer he called earlier.

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by jm (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:04pm

Let me be the first raging paranoiac to suggest that Cutler was told to take a dive so Belichick-killer Plummer can start next week against NE.

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by stan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:10pm

Bobman et al,

What happened on the Colts' first drive? Just got back to the house in time to see Dallas Clark drop the long pass over the middle. (btw-- just about as perfect pass into a tight hole 30 yards downfield as is possible to throw). Play by play says the Colts went 0-3 on first drive.

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by Will_Liverpool (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:11pm

It would be a great story if The Snake came in for play-offs and led Denver to the SB.Unlikely I know, but would be a typical cheesy play-off story.

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:17pm

Jake the snake!

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by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:17pm

Okay, so what are the current scenarios? I know that the only games that matter are the Colts/Dolphins and the Broncos/49ers...so what are the four scenarios?

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by Will_Liverpool (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:18pm

Jake ! Jake ! They're singing your song at Mile High.It goes : "Booooooooooooo" !!!

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by Bobman (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:18pm

Stan,
Beats me, I could not get to the TV until about half-past and Indy was down 3-0. Then they put together a sweet, patient 10-minute drive. Went to 3rd down just about every opportunity, which was a little nerve-wracking. Dan Klecko's first career TD rec.

Ah, now I see the return of Indy's run-D on Miami's current drive. Maddening.

Keep the faith.

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by stan (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:23pm

So less than 2 minutes (1:31)in the half and the Colts are getting the ball for only the 4th time.

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by navin (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:24pm

Not having the yellow line for this game really reminds me how great it is.

Denver just had a run close to a first down, but instead of knowing instantly if they got it, I had to wait for the official spotter to let me know.

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by David (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:29pm

That makes 10 for Champ Bailey this year.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:29pm

Why are refs so reluctant to call a safety? They could have called two on consecutive plays on Atlanta.

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by Bobman (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:30pm

Aaron freakin' Moorehead! What a catch!

Peyton Freakin' Manning, nice TD run. Choker.

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by Peyton Manning (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:33pm

I just had an 11 yard TD run.

Suck it Mike Vick!

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by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:34pm

Heh. Can you hear the gasp of all the Indy fans fearing a major injury of Manning on that run? Like, I think I heard everyone in Indianapolis scream "SLIDE" at the same instant.

Good run though.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:34pm

Gotta come down to Champ Bailey and Jason Taylor for DPOY (both said Merriman shouldn't be eligible, by the way).
Bailey is having a crazy season.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:34pm

Massive screw-up by Arizona.

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by Harris (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:35pm

Tapeh is trying desperately to get himself cut.

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by kal (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:37pm

Okay, that was some seriously good clock management by Indy. 6 seconds, they gain 9 yards on a quick run, call a timeout, and kick the field goal from a manageable distance. Nice.

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by Sid (not verified) :: Sun, 12/31/2006 - 7:39pm

It's amazing that Philly's scrubs are beating up on Atlanta.